Sending a large attachment.

The first thing you should do is uninstall McAfee since it is incompatible
with Windows Mail. Then try sending again. If you get a new error message,
copy it, then post it here.

Gary VanderMolen


"Spudee" <btate.RemoveThis@dodo.com.au> wrote in message news:ADE5E713-3265-4A2B-B29C-A414A78480C7@microsoft.com...
> G'day from 'down under',
>
> I have been attempting for 2 days now to send an extremely important email
> with a 19 page attachment. The bulk of the attachment is Word 2007 text with
> about a dozen small photos scattered throughout. However, my virus
> programme, McAfee, tells me that the mesage is not able to be sent. I have
> read a number of posts here and it seems that this sort of problem is either
> with Windows Mail in Vista, McAfee, or my server!! Help please.

G'day Gharles and Gary,

Seems that the problem was in the size of the attachment which was over
60,000 KBs. I spoke to my providor and they have advised that most mailboxes
will only hold about 20,000KBs before they are full. They suggested I break
the attachment down into 4 or 5 seperate attachments and send each seperately
after advising the recipients first. Sounds about right. Thanks again for
your advice.

Regards.

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> The first thing you should do is uninstall McAfee since it is incompatible
> with Windows Mail. Then try sending again. If you get a new error message,
> copy it, then post it here.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
>
> "Spudee" <btate.DeleteThis@dodo.com.au> wrote in message news:ADE5E713-3265-4A2B-B29C-A414A78480C7@microsoft.com...
> > G'day from 'down under',
> >
> > I have been attempting for 2 days now to send an extremely important email
> > with a 19 page attachment. The bulk of the attachment is Word 2007 text with
> > about a dozen small photos scattered throughout. However, my virus
> > programme, McAfee, tells me that the mesage is not able to be sent. I have
> > read a number of posts here and it seems that this sort of problem is either
> > with Windows Mail in Vista, McAfee, or my server!! Help please.
>
>
>

You say the photos are small.
Are you referring to the height and width or are you referring to the file
size of the photos?
The photos should be reduced in file size before inserting into the Word
doc.

When you attach nontext to an email, the nontext has to be encoded as text
which increases the file size by 33 1/3%.
Your 60,000 kb attachment could actually be 80,000 kb.
--
Ronald Sommer

"Spudee" <btate DeleteThis @dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:AB86B6ED-94DE-45CB-B24E-FC40415C4FFB@microsoft.com...
: G'day Gharles and Gary,
:
: Seems that the problem was in the size of the attachment which was over
: 60,000 KBs. I spoke to my providor and they have advised that most
mailboxes
: will only hold about 20,000KBs before they are full. They suggested I
break
: the attachment down into 4 or 5 seperate attachments and send each
seperately
: after advising the recipients first. Sounds about right. Thanks again
for
: your advice.
:
: Regards.
:
: "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
:
: > The first thing you should do is uninstall McAfee since it is
incompatible
: > with Windows Mail. Then try sending again. If you get a new error
message,
: > copy it, then post it here.
: >
: > Gary VanderMolen
: >
: >
: > "Spudee" <btate DeleteThis @dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:ADE5E713-3265-4A2B-B29C-A414A78480C7@microsoft.com...
: > > G'day from 'down under',
: > >
: > > I have been attempting for 2 days now to send an extremely important
email
: > > with a 19 page attachment. The bulk of the attachment is Word 2007
text with
: > > about a dozen small photos scattered throughout. However, my virus
: > > programme, McAfee, tells me that the mesage is not able to be sent. I
have
: > > read a number of posts here and it seems that this sort of problem is
either
: > > with Windows Mail in Vista, McAfee, or my server!! Help please.
: >
: >
: >

Spudee shared these words of wisdom:

> G'day Gharles and Gary,
>
> Seems that the problem was in the size of the attachment which was
> over 60,000 KBs. I spoke to my providor and they have advised that
> most mailboxes will only hold about 20,000KBs before they are full.
> They suggested I break the attachment down into 4 or 5 seperate
> attachments and send each seperately after advising the recipients
> first. Sounds about right. Thanks again for your advice.

I too would suggest to try with a number PDFs.
In general one should always use PDF and avoid Word-DOCs (unless the
recipient shall be entitled to edit the documents.

If you can't get hold of a PDF-creator, make ZIPs.

Rainald

G'day Guys,

Thanks Ron and Rainald,

I will attempt what you suggest. The photos I mentioned are small in
dimension size, not sure about the file size. I spent a bit of time last
night (Aussie time) splitting the attachment up into 5 seperate emails with
attachments but these also failed. Very frustrating!! Anyway, the original
attachment, without photos will have to do. Thanks again to everyone who has
offered sound and helpful advice. It is a wonderful world.

Cheers from down under.



"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

> Spudee shared these words of wisdom:
>
> > G'day Gharles and Gary,
> >
> > Seems that the problem was in the size of the attachment which was
> > over 60,000 KBs. I spoke to my providor and they have advised that
> > most mailboxes will only hold about 20,000KBs before they are full.
> > They suggested I break the attachment down into 4 or 5 seperate
> > attachments and send each seperately after advising the recipients
> > first. Sounds about right. Thanks again for your advice.
>
> I too would suggest to try with a number PDFs.
> In general one should always use PDF and avoid Word-DOCs (unless the
> recipient shall be entitled to edit the documents.
>
> If you can't get hold of a PDF-creator, make ZIPs.
>
> Rainald
>
>

Spudee shared these words of wisdom:

> … The photos I mentioned are small in
> dimension size, not sure about the file size.

Believe me or not:
Several times tonight your problem did strike me
Even when sitting at the bar down in the local village pub, I thought
about it ..
And I developed another idea for an approach.

> I spent a bit of time
> last night (Aussie time) splitting the attachment up into 5 seperate
> emails with attachments but these also failed. Very frustrating!!

I believe You!

> Anyway, the original attachment, without photos will have to do.

No.
This would be just the wrong decision and it would mean just to give up
too soon!!

As has been worked out in this thread, the whole thing in just "one
piece" is too big. For sure.

So lets cut it into digestible pieces (several DOCs, several PDFs,
several ZIPs [BTW: Packing PDFs into a ZIP won't bring much reduction
in size).

Apart from that, my idea simply is to saddle the horse form the other
end:
I assume that it's just the photos being too big. Most probably you use
rather big images and just reduced the size of their *appearance* in
Word.
Right?

As you - *now* say (and what I was sure about before) - "the photos are
small in dimension size" (i.e. showing small in the source
[WinWord-Doc]) but " not sure about the file size", I am pretty sure
that just the *physical* size of the photos is the problem.

My suggestion:
REDUCE the physical size of the images used and then embed them into
the source (WinWord-Doc) again.

Should you not have something like "Photoshop", just use the really
fantastic all-purpose freeware tool IrfanView
www.irfanview.com

Open all of the images (one by one) and reduce the size; adjust the
*physical* size to the size needed in the document and save them (with
a different name [in order to keep the originals untouched]).

Then edit the WinWord document again and replace the current images wit
the reduced ones.

Check the file-size of the resulting document.
Should it still be too big, cu it into pieces and then convert the
parts to PDFs or - if this preferred way is not viable - pack them into
ZIPs.

HTH
If any further questions, pls ask them.

Rainald

G'day Rainald,

Bit worried that my problem still bugged you down at the pub! But I think
your suggestion may have worked. I downloaded www.irfanview.com as you
suggested and then using the 'image' menu, reduced the image to 25% of its
original size. I then sent it to myself as an email attachment firstly with
no luck as I couldn't open the file format it arrived in. So I thought about
you having mentioned saving it as a jpeg file and did this. I then created a
new test Word document, inserted the irfanview editted image and sent it
again. Voila, it worked. Now I will go back to my original attachment,
delete the photos and after re-sizing the originals on irfanview, reinsert
them and see what happens. But it looks promising. By the way, the document
is an overview of an incredible biography I have written and which a couple
of film producers seem to be interested in; hence my need to get this thing
done. I will keep you posted and would love to buy you a drink.

Thanks again and regards.
"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

> Spudee shared these words of wisdom:
>
> > … The photos I mentioned are small in
> > dimension size, not sure about the file size.
>
> Believe me or not:
> Several times tonight your problem did strike me
> Even when sitting at the bar down in the local village pub, I thought
> about it ..
> And I developed another idea for an approach.
>
> > I spent a bit of time
> > last night (Aussie time) splitting the attachment up into 5 seperate
> > emails with attachments but these also failed. Very frustrating!!
>
> I believe You!
>
> > Anyway, the original attachment, without photos will have to do.
>
> No.
> This would be just the wrong decision and it would mean just to give up
> too soon!!
>
> As has been worked out in this thread, the whole thing in just "one
> piece" is too big. For sure.
>
> So lets cut it into digestible pieces (several DOCs, several PDFs,
> several ZIPs [BTW: Packing PDFs into a ZIP won't bring much reduction
> in size).
>
> Apart from that, my idea simply is to saddle the horse form the other
> end:
> I assume that it's just the photos being too big. Most probably you use
> rather big images and just reduced the size of their *appearance* in
> Word.
> Right?
>
> As you - *now* say (and what I was sure about before) - "the photos are
> small in dimension size" (i.e. showing small in the source
> [WinWord-Doc]) but " not sure about the file size", I am pretty sure
> that just the *physical* size of the photos is the problem.
>
> My suggestion:
> REDUCE the physical size of the images used and then embed them into
> the source (WinWord-Doc) again.
>
> Should you not have something like "Photoshop", just use the really
> fantastic all-purpose freeware tool IrfanView
> www.irfanview.com
>
> Open all of the images (one by one) and reduce the size; adjust the
> *physical* size to the size needed in the document and save them (with
> a different name [in order to keep the originals untouched]).
>
> Then edit the WinWord document again and replace the current images wit
> the reduced ones.
>
> Check the file-size of the resulting document.
> Should it still be too big, cu it into pieces and then convert the
> parts to PDFs or - if this preferred way is not viable - pack them into
> ZIPs.
>
> HTH
> If any further questions, pls ask them.
>
> Rainald
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Image Resizer will resize several selected photos.
1300 kb photo reduced to 55 kb.
The reduced photos are saved with (small) added to the name.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
--
Ronald Sommer

"Spudee" <btate.DeleteThis@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
news:C191AD93-2AF3-4B7D-B8E1-0EA857BAB2F6@microsoft.com...
: G'day Rainald,
:
: Bit worried that my problem still bugged you down at the pub! But I think
: your suggestion may have worked. I downloaded www.irfanview.com as you
: suggested and then using the 'image' menu, reduced the image to 25% of its
: original size. I then sent it to myself as an email attachment firstly
with
: no luck as I couldn't open the file format it arrived in. So I thought
about
: you having mentioned saving it as a jpeg file and did this. I then
created a
: new test Word document, inserted the irfanview editted image and sent it
: again. Voila, it worked. Now I will go back to my original attachment,
: delete the photos and after re-sizing the originals on irfanview, reinsert
: them and see what happens. But it looks promising. By the way, the
document
: is an overview of an incredible biography I have written and which a
couple
: of film producers seem to be interested in; hence my need to get this
thing
: done. I will keep you posted and would love to buy you a drink.
:
: Thanks again and regards.
: "Rainald Taesler" wrote:
:
: > Spudee shared these words of wisdom:
: >
: > > … The photos I mentioned are small in
: > > dimension size, not sure about the file size.
: >
: > Believe me or not:
: > Several times tonight your problem did strike me
: > Even when sitting at the bar down in the local village pub, I thought
: > about it ..
: > And I developed another idea for an approach.
: >
: > > I spent a bit of time
: > > last night (Aussie time) splitting the attachment up into 5 seperate
: > > emails with attachments but these also failed. Very frustrating!!
: >
: > I believe You!
: >
: > > Anyway, the original attachment, without photos will have to do.
: >
: > No.
: > This would be just the wrong decision and it would mean just to give up
: > too soon!!
: >
: > As has been worked out in this thread, the whole thing in just "one
: > piece" is too big. For sure.
: >
: > So lets cut it into digestible pieces (several DOCs, several PDFs,
: > several ZIPs [BTW: Packing PDFs into a ZIP won't bring much reduction
: > in size).
: >
: > Apart from that, my idea simply is to saddle the horse form the other
: > end:
: > I assume that it's just the photos being too big. Most probably you use
: > rather big images and just reduced the size of their *appearance* in
: > Word.
: > Right?
: >
: > As you - *now* say (and what I was sure about before) - "the photos are
: > small in dimension size" (i.e. showing small in the source
: > [WinWord-Doc]) but " not sure about the file size", I am pretty sure
: > that just the *physical* size of the photos is the problem.
: >
: > My suggestion:
: > REDUCE the physical size of the images used and then embed them into
: > the source (WinWord-Doc) again.
: >
: > Should you not have something like "Photoshop", just use the really
: > fantastic all-purpose freeware tool IrfanView
: > www.irfanview.com
: >
: > Open all of the images (one by one) and reduce the size; adjust the
: > *physical* size to the size needed in the document and save them (with
: > a different name [in order to keep the originals untouched]).
: >
: > Then edit the WinWord document again and replace the current images wit
: > the reduced ones.
: >
: > Check the file-size of the resulting document.
: > Should it still be too big, cu it into pieces and then convert the
: > parts to PDFs or - if this preferred way is not viable - pack them into
: > ZIPs.
: >
: > HTH
: > If any further questions, pls ask them.
: >
: > Rainald
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >

Ron Sommer shared these words of wisdom:

> Image Resizer will resize several selected photos.
> 1300 kb photo reduced to 55 kb.
> The reduced photos are saved with (small) added to the name.
>
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Thanks for the pointer.
I had it on my old machine under XP.
But the XP-PowerToys do not install without a warning. So I did not
install any of them.

Did you install the tool under Vista?
Any problems?

Rainald

Thanks for the feedback.
Glad to hear that it might work better this way.

All the best for your biography project!

Regrads
Rainald
P.S. Thanks for the kind invitation. It's a bit far, however, from
Germany to "down under"


Spudee shared these words of wisdom:

> G'day Rainald,
>
> Bit worried that my problem still bugged you down at the pub! But I
> think your suggestion may have worked. I downloaded
> www.irfanview.com as you suggested and then using the 'image' menu,
> reduced the image to 25% of its original size. I then sent it to
> myself as an email attachment firstly with no luck as I couldn't
> open the file format it arrived in. So I thought about you having
> mentioned saving it as a jpeg file and did this. I then created a
> new test Word document, inserted the irfanview editted image and
> sent it again. Voila, it worked. Now I will go back to my original
> attachment, delete the photos and after re-sizing the originals on
> irfanview, reinsert them and see what happens. But it looks
> promising. By the way, the document is an overview of an incredible
> biography I have written and which a couple of film producers seem
> to be interested in; hence my need to get this thing done. I will
> keep you posted and would love to buy you a drink.
>
> Thanks again and regards.
> "Rainald Taesler" wrote:
>
>> Spudee shared these words of wisdom:
>>
>>> … The photos I mentioned are small in
>>> dimension size, not sure about the file size.
>>
>> Believe me or not:
>> Several times tonight your problem did strike me
>> Even when sitting at the bar down in the local village pub, I
>> thought about it ..
>> And I developed another idea for an approach.
>>
>>> I spent a bit of time
>>> last night (Aussie time) splitting the attachment up into 5
>>> seperate emails with attachments but these also failed. Very
>>> frustrating!!
>>
>> I believe You!
>>
>>> Anyway, the original attachment, without photos will have to do.
>>
>> No.
>> This would be just the wrong decision and it would mean just to
>> give up too soon!!
>>
>> As has been worked out in this thread, the whole thing in just "one
>> piece" is too big. For sure.
>>
>> So lets cut it into digestible pieces (several DOCs, several PDFs,
>> several ZIPs [BTW: Packing PDFs into a ZIP won't bring much
>> reduction in size).
>>
>> Apart from that, my idea simply is to saddle the horse form the
>> other end:
>> I assume that it's just the photos being too big. Most probably you
>> use rather big images and just reduced the size of their
>> *appearance* in Word.
>> Right?
>>
>> As you - *now* say (and what I was sure about before) - "the photos
>> are small in dimension size" (i.e. showing small in the source
>> [WinWord-Doc]) but " not sure about the file size", I am pretty sure
>> that just the *physical* size of the photos is the problem.
>>
>> My suggestion:
>> REDUCE the physical size of the images used and then embed them into
>> the source (WinWord-Doc) again.
>>
>> Should you not have something like "Photoshop", just use the really
>> fantastic all-purpose freeware tool IrfanView
>> www.irfanview.com
>>
>> Open all of the images (one by one) and reduce the size; adjust the
>> *physical* size to the size needed in the document and save them
>> (with a different name [in order to keep the originals untouched]).
>>
>> Then edit the WinWord document again and replace the current images
>> wit the reduced ones.
>>
>> Check the file-size of the resulting document.
>> Should it still be too big, cu it into pieces and then convert the
>> parts to PDFs or - if this preferred way is not viable - pack them
>> into ZIPs.
>>
>> HTH
>> If any further questions, pls ask them.
>>
>> Rainald

When viewing the pictures folder,
"You can resize images to some set sizes by selecting "EMail"."

Sorry, XP Image Resizer doesn't work in Vista.

I haven't tried this product:
http://www.vso-software.fr/products/image_resizer/
--
Ronald Sommer

"Rainald Taesler" <taesler DeleteThis @gmx.de> wrote in message
news:%23hMY%23S41HHA.2752@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
: Ron Sommer shared these words of wisdom:
:
: > Image Resizer will resize several selected photos.
: > 1300 kb photo reduced to 55 kb.
: > The reduced photos are saved with (small) added to the name.
: >
: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
:
: Thanks for the pointer.
: I had it on my old machine under XP.
: But the XP-PowerToys do not install without a warning. So I did not
: install any of them.
:
: Did you install the tool under Vista?
: Any problems?
:
: Rainald
:

Does McAfee not work well with Vista?? I am having big problems with sending
photos through windows mail. The computer I bought came with mcAfee (a Dell
computer) and I'm wondering - if there is a problem with McAfee and windows
mail, why does Dell sell or recommend McAffee with Vista??? Very annoying!

Ness

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> The first thing you should do is uninstall McAfee since it is incompatible
> with Windows Mail. Then try sending again. If you get a new error message,
> copy it, then post it here.
>
> Gary VanderMolen
>
>
> "Spudee" <btate.RemoveThis@dodo.com.au> wrote in message news:ADE5E713-3265-4A2B-B29C-A414A78480C7@microsoft.com...
> > G'day from 'down under',
> >
> > I have been attempting for 2 days now to send an extremely important email
> > with a 19 page attachment. The bulk of the attachment is Word 2007 text with
> > about a dozen small photos scattered throughout. However, my virus
> > programme, McAfee, tells me that the mesage is not able to be sent. I have
> > read a number of posts here and it seems that this sort of problem is either
> > with Windows Mail in Vista, McAfee, or my server!! Help please.
>
>
>

Ron Sommer shared these words of wisdom:

>> But the XP-PowerToys do not install without a warning. So I did not
>> install any of them.
>> Did you install the tool under Vista?
>> Any problems?
>
> Sorry, XP Image Resizer doesn't work in Vista.

That's what I had assumed.
Thanks for the conformation.
Too bad that there (not yet?) any PowerToys for Vista. I'm seriously
missing TweakUI [siiiiigh].

> When viewing the pictures folder,
> "You can resize images to some set sizes by selecting "EMail"."

Interesting! Did not yet detect the features. Thanks for telling me!
It seems to be some workaround:
- select the files,
- click on "email" and have them attached to a new mail,
- save the mail,
- then save the files from there.

> I haven't tried this product:
> http://www.vso-software.fr/products/image_resizer/

Thanks for the reference.
Will have a look.

BTW: The "Batch Conversion" tool in Irfanview is really powerful.
One can - besides many other options - resize the content of a whole
folder in just one run.

Rainald