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j lunis

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Since: Nov 03, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 12:57 pm
Post subject: bad video card
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Vista Home Addition
HP PC
A while back I began getting a BSOD about a nVidia graphics card driver.
Finally (kinda) resolved that by going to the nVidia web page and
Dling/installing the latest driver. However, two problems persist.

minor - I can not use any Direct3D screensaver - keep getting "The
screen saver can't run because it requires a newer video card or one
that's compatible with Direct3D."

major - my PC is MUCH slower - that is, for example, when I open
Explorer, it takes ~ 45 sec. to a minute to open as opposed to nearly
instantly before the BSOD. on startup, icons on the desktop show up as
white objects and slowly change to the actual icon image a few at a
time. Before this, icons initially (instantly) appeared as the actual icon.

HP had me reomve the video card and wait for a beep - none - and remove
the RAM cards and wait for a beep - one short, one long.
Now they want me to do a System Restore. I am not at all interested in
this. Previous attempts have resulted in reinstalling programs/settings
over several days - time I do not have.
Any ideas on troubleshooting/resolving this? Can I confirm a good nVidia
card? Could it be a driver problem?
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John Galt

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:02 pm
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j lunis <jay.lunis DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>Vista Home Addition
>HP PC
>A while back I began getting a BSOD about a nVidia graphics card driver.
> Finally (kinda) resolved that by going to the nVidia web page and
>Dling/installing the latest driver. However, two problems persist.

Is your video card different than what originally came with the
computer? If not, then you should have gotten your driver from the HP
website.

>minor - I can not use any Direct3D screensaver - keep getting "The
>screen saver can't run because it requires a newer video card or one
>that's compatible with Direct3D."
>
>major - my PC is MUCH slower - that is, for example, when I open
>Explorer, it takes ~ 45 sec. to a minute to open as opposed to nearly
>instantly before the BSOD. on startup, icons on the desktop show up as
>white objects and slowly change to the actual icon image a few at a
>time. Before this, icons initially (instantly) appeared as the actual icon.
>
>HP had me reomve the video card and wait for a beep - none - and remove
>the RAM cards and wait for a beep - one short, one long.
>Now they want me to do a System Restore. I am not at all interested in
>this. Previous attempts have resulted in reinstalling programs/settings
>over several days - time I do not have.
>Any ideas on troubleshooting/resolving this? Can I confirm a good nVidia
>card? Could it be a driver problem?
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David B.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 1:16 pm
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Uninstall the current driver and install the latest one from Nvidias
website, that will determine if it's a driver problem. What brand is the
video card?

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"j lunis" <jay.lunis.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Vista Home Addition
> HP PC
> A while back I began getting a BSOD about a nVidia graphics card driver.
> Finally (kinda) resolved that by going to the nVidia web page and
> Dling/installing the latest driver. However, two problems persist.
>
> minor - I can not use any Direct3D screensaver - keep getting "The screen
> saver can't run because it requires a newer video card or one
> that's compatible with Direct3D."
>
> major - my PC is MUCH slower - that is, for example, when I open Explorer,
> it takes ~ 45 sec. to a minute to open as opposed to nearly instantly
> before the BSOD. on startup, icons on the desktop show up as white
> objects and slowly change to the actual icon image a few at a time.
> Before this, icons initially (instantly) appeared as the actual icon.
>
> HP had me reomve the video card and wait for a beep - none - and remove
> the RAM cards and wait for a beep - one short, one long.
> Now they want me to do a System Restore. I am not at all interested in
> this. Previous attempts have resulted in reinstalling programs/settings
> over several days - time I do not have.
> Any ideas on troubleshooting/resolving this? Can I confirm a good nVidia
> card? Could it be a driver problem?
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j lunis

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:21 pm
Post subject: Re: bad video card [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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John Galt wrote:
> j lunis <jay.lunis RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Vista Home Addition
>> HP PC
>> A while back I began getting a BSOD about a nVidia graphics card driver.
>> Finally (kinda) resolved that by going to the nVidia web page and
>> Dling/installing the latest driver. However, two problems persist.
>
> Is your video card different than what originally came with the
> computer? If not, then you should have gotten your driver from the HP
> website.
>
Yup. OEM. I did get a driver but it allegedly corrupted which is what
sent me to the nVidia web site.





>> minor - I can not use any Direct3D screensaver - keep getting "The
>> screen saver can't run because it requires a newer video card or one
>> that's compatible with Direct3D."
>>
>> major - my PC is MUCH slower - that is, for example, when I open
>> Explorer, it takes ~ 45 sec. to a minute to open as opposed to nearly
>> instantly before the BSOD. on startup, icons on the desktop show up as
>> white objects and slowly change to the actual icon image a few at a
>> time. Before this, icons initially (instantly) appeared as the actual icon.
>>
>> HP had me reomve the video card and wait for a beep - none - and remove
>> the RAM cards and wait for a beep - one short, one long.
>> Now they want me to do a System Restore. I am not at all interested in
>> this. Previous attempts have resulted in reinstalling programs/settings
>> over several days - time I do not have.
>> Any ideas on troubleshooting/resolving this? Can I confirm a good nVidia
>> card? Could it be a driver problem?
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j lunis

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:21 pm
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David B. wrote:
> Uninstall the current driver and install the latest one from Nvidias
> website, that will determine if it's a driver problem. What brand is the
> video card?
>
I thought nVidia was a brand.
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John Galt

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:21 pm
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j lunis <jay.lunis RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>> Is your video card different than what originally came with the
>> computer? If not, then you should have gotten your driver from the HP
>> website.
>>
>Yup. OEM. I did get a driver but it allegedly corrupted which is what
>sent me to the nVidia web site.

Go to the HP site, find your computer, get the video driver for it.
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"Cari

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:21 pm
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nVidia is a chipset manufacturer. Other companies buy nVidia's chipset and
make the actual graphic cards.
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Windows Technologies - Printing & Imaging
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"j lunis" <jay.lunis.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> David B. wrote:
>> Uninstall the current driver and install the latest one from Nvidias
>> website, that will determine if it's a driver problem. What brand is the
>> video card?
>>
> I thought nVidia was a brand.
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Mike Hall - MVP

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 5:56 pm
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"j lunis" <jay.lunis.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> John Galt wrote:
>> j lunis <jay.lunis.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Vista Home Addition
>>> HP PC
>>> A while back I began getting a BSOD about a nVidia graphics card driver.
>>> Finally (kinda) resolved that by going to the nVidia web page and
>>> Dling/installing the latest driver. However, two problems persist.
>>
>> Is your video card different than what originally came with the
>> computer? If not, then you should have gotten your driver from the HP
>> website.
>>
> Yup. OEM. I did get a driver but it allegedly corrupted which is what
> sent me to the nVidia web site.
>
>
>
>
>
>>> minor - I can not use any Direct3D screensaver - keep getting "The
>>> screen saver can't run because it requires a newer video card or one
>>> that's compatible with Direct3D."
>>>
>>> major - my PC is MUCH slower - that is, for example, when I open
>>> Explorer, it takes ~ 45 sec. to a minute to open as opposed to nearly
>>> instantly before the BSOD. on startup, icons on the desktop show up as
>>> white objects and slowly change to the actual icon image a few at a
>>> time. Before this, icons initially (instantly) appeared as the actual
>>> icon.
>>>
>>> HP had me reomve the video card and wait for a beep - none - and remove
>>> the RAM cards and wait for a beep - one short, one long.
>>> Now they want me to do a System Restore. I am not at all interested in
>>> this. Previous attempts have resulted in reinstalling programs/settings
>>> over several days - time I do not have.
>>> Any ideas on troubleshooting/resolving this? Can I confirm a good nVidia
>>> card? Could it be a driver problem?

Uninstall the nVidia drivers.. shut down the machine.. remove the video
card.. reboot the machine.. shut down again.. re-install the video card..
install the latest video drivers


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David B.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:20 am
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By brand I meant the mfg of the card, it uses an Nvidia chipset but Nvidia
doesn't mfg graphics cards, only the chipset.

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"j lunis" <jay.lunis DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> David B. wrote:
>> Uninstall the current driver and install the latest one from Nvidias
>> website, that will determine if it's a driver problem. What brand is the
>> video card?
>>
> I thought nVidia was a brand.
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j lunis

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:34 pm
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David B. wrote:
> By brand I meant the mfg of the card, it uses an Nvidia chipset but
> Nvidia doesn't mfg graphics cards, only the chipset.
>
Don't know. How do I tell?
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j lunis

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:36 pm
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Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
> "j lunis" <jay.lunis DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OTs8vKXNKHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> John Galt wrote:
>>> j lunis <jay.lunis DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vista Home Addition
>>>> HP PC
>>>> A while back I began getting a BSOD about a nVidia graphics card
>>>> driver. Finally (kinda) resolved that by going to the nVidia web
>>>> page and Dling/installing the latest driver. However, two problems
>>>> persist.
>>>
>>> Is your video card different than what originally came with the
>>> computer? If not, then you should have gotten your driver from the HP
>>> website.
>>>
>> Yup. OEM. I did get a driver but it allegedly corrupted which is what
>> sent me to the nVidia web site.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> minor - I can not use any Direct3D screensaver - keep getting "The
>>>> screen saver can't run because it requires a newer video card or one
>>>> that's compatible with Direct3D."
>>>>
>>>> major - my PC is MUCH slower - that is, for example, when I open
>>>> Explorer, it takes ~ 45 sec. to a minute to open as opposed to
>>>> nearly instantly before the BSOD. on startup, icons on the desktop
>>>> show up as white objects and slowly change to the actual icon image
>>>> a few at a time. Before this, icons initially (instantly) appeared
>>>> as the actual icon.
>>>>
>>>> HP had me reomve the video card and wait for a beep - none - and
>>>> remove the RAM cards and wait for a beep - one short, one long.
>>>> Now they want me to do a System Restore. I am not at all interested
>>>> in this. Previous attempts have resulted in reinstalling
>>>> programs/settings over several days - time I do not have.
>>>> Any ideas on troubleshooting/resolving this? Can I confirm a good
>>>> nVidia card? Could it be a driver problem?
>
> Uninstall the nVidia drivers.. shut down the machine.. remove the video
> card.. reboot the machine.. shut down again.. re-install the video
> card.. install the latest video drivers
>
>
Just curious. If I have no graphics card driver and boot up, can I see
the display on the monitor?
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David B.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:20 pm
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Take the card out and look at it.

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"j lunis" <jay.lunis RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> David B. wrote:
>> By brand I meant the mfg of the card, it uses an Nvidia chipset but
>> Nvidia doesn't mfg graphics cards, only the chipset.
>>
> Don't know. How do I tell?
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Chuck

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:20 pm
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If you uninstall & remove the Nvidia driver, the PC "should "use a default
Microsoft VGA/SVGA driver. Caviats are that a much lower resolution will be
used.
Your best bet is to obtain an appropriate driver from Nvidia. Why your HP
driver copy is "corrupt" is beyond my knowledge, other than to say that this
does occasionally happen.
Usually, modern download methods and supporting software keep this from
occurring. It's possible that you might have additional problems that result
in file corruption.

"Just curious. If I have no graphics card driver and boot up, can I see
the display on the monitor?"


"j lunis" <jay.lunis RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>>
>> "j lunis" <jay.lunis RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:OTs8vKXNKHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> John Galt wrote:
>>>> j lunis <jay.lunis RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vista Home Addition
>>>>> HP PC
>>>>> A while back I began getting a BSOD about a nVidia graphics card
>>>>> driver. Finally (kinda) resolved that by going to the nVidia web page
>>>>> and Dling/installing the latest driver. However, two problems
>>>>> persist.
>>>>
>>>> Is your video card different than what originally came with the
>>>> computer? If not, then you should have gotten your driver from the HP
>>>> website.
>>>>
>>> Yup. OEM. I did get a driver but it allegedly corrupted which is what
>>> sent me to the nVidia web site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> minor - I can not use any Direct3D screensaver - keep getting "The
>>>>> screen saver can't run because it requires a newer video card or one
>>>>> that's compatible with Direct3D."
>>>>>
>>>>> major - my PC is MUCH slower - that is, for example, when I open
>>>>> Explorer, it takes ~ 45 sec. to a minute to open as opposed to nearly
>>>>> instantly before the BSOD. on startup, icons on the desktop show up
>>>>> as white objects and slowly change to the actual icon image a few at a
>>>>> time. Before this, icons initially (instantly) appeared as the actual
>>>>> icon.
>>>>>
>>>>> HP had me reomve the video card and wait for a beep - none - and
>>>>> remove the RAM cards and wait for a beep - one short, one long.
>>>>> Now they want me to do a System Restore. I am not at all interested
>>>>> in this. Previous attempts have resulted in reinstalling
>>>>> programs/settings over several days - time I do not have.
>>>>> Any ideas on troubleshooting/resolving this? Can I confirm a good
>>>>> nVidia card? Could it be a driver problem?
>>
>> Uninstall the nVidia drivers.. shut down the machine.. remove the video
>> card.. reboot the machine.. shut down again.. re-install the video
>> card.. install the latest video drivers
>>
>>
> Just curious. If I have no graphics card driver and boot up, can I see
> the display on the monitor?
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:26 pm
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Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
>
> "j lunis" <jay.lunis.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OTs8vKXNKHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> John Galt wrote:
>>> j lunis <jay.lunis.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vista Home Addition
>>>> HP PC
>>>> A while back I began getting a BSOD about a nVidia graphics card
>>>> driver. Finally (kinda) resolved that by going to the nVidia web
>>>> page and Dling/installing the latest driver. However, two problems
>>>> persist.
>>>
>>> Is your video card different than what originally came with the
>>> computer? If not, then you should have gotten your driver from the HP
>>> website.
>>>
>> Yup. OEM. I did get a driver but it allegedly corrupted which is what
>> sent me to the nVidia web site.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> minor - I can not use any Direct3D screensaver - keep getting "The
>>>> screen saver can't run because it requires a newer video card or one
>>>> that's compatible with Direct3D."
>>>>
>>>> major - my PC is MUCH slower - that is, for example, when I open
>>>> Explorer, it takes ~ 45 sec. to a minute to open as opposed to
>>>> nearly instantly before the BSOD. on startup, icons on the desktop
>>>> show up as white objects and slowly change to the actual icon image
>>>> a few at a time. Before this, icons initially (instantly) appeared
>>>> as the actual icon.
>>>>
>>>> HP had me reomve the video card and wait for a beep - none - and
>>>> remove the RAM cards and wait for a beep - one short, one long.
>>>> Now they want me to do a System Restore. I am not at all interested
>>>> in this. Previous attempts have resulted in reinstalling
>>>> programs/settings over several days - time I do not have.
>>>> Any ideas on troubleshooting/resolving this? Can I confirm a good
>>>> nVidia card? Could it be a driver problem?
>
> Uninstall the nVidia drivers.. shut down the machine.. remove the video
> card.. reboot the machine.. shut down again.. re-install the video
> card.. install the latest video drivers
>
>
worked perfectly, thanks
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