Slow startup after logon

Uncheck all services or startup?

"astyles" wrote:

> On Aug 28, 1:14 pm, PATRICK <PATR... DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > Ok, im not completly stupid with computers. Let me start with the problem.
> >
> > I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i get to the
> > logon window with no problem, fast and all. However after i logon it takes
> > about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be able to use programs. I
> > recently reformatted. and added some drivers. (still am missing 3 base
> > system drivers).
> > but read that wrong drivers could slow it down.
> >
> > I have used bootvis, and msconfig to not start certain programs i dont need
> > at start up. What else can i do to fix this?
> > Please help!
> > Patrick
>
> Uncheck everything at startup and then enable one at a time. If all
> are disabled and you still have problems then try creating a new user
> profile in users and computers of control panel and loggin in with
> that user. If that is faster then use that profile. Make sure and copy
> your documents, favorites and history over if you decide to use
> another profile.
>
> A
>
>

Well i tried both of those with no luck. Any other ideas?

"PATRICK" wrote:

> Uncheck all services or startup?
>
> "astyles" wrote:
>
> > On Aug 28, 1:14 pm, PATRICK <PATR... RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > > Ok, im not completly stupid with computers. Let me start with the problem.
> > >
> > > I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i get to the
> > > logon window with no problem, fast and all. However after i logon it takes
> > > about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be able to use programs. I
> > > recently reformatted. and added some drivers. (still am missing 3 base
> > > system drivers).
> > > but read that wrong drivers could slow it down.
> > >
> > > I have used bootvis, and msconfig to not start certain programs i dont need
> > > at start up. What else can i do to fix this?
> > > Please help!
> > > Patrick
> >
> > Uncheck everything at startup and then enable one at a time. If all
> > are disabled and you still have problems then try creating a new user
> > profile in users and computers of control panel and loggin in with
> > that user. If that is faster then use that profile. Make sure and copy
> > your documents, favorites and history over if you decide to use
> > another profile.
> >
> > A
> >
> >

PATRICK wrote:

> I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i get to
> the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However after i
> logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be able
> to use programs.

After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If so, it
sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files on your
hard drive.

Yea, it runs perfect after that period, but i dont think thats it, because i
disabled my antivirus in the previous post, through msconfig, and it still
took a very long time to load

"Daave" wrote:

> PATRICK wrote:
>
> > I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i get to
> > the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However after i
> > logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be able
> > to use programs.
>
> After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If so, it
> sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files on your
> hard drive.
>
>
>

PATRICK wrote:
> Yea, it runs perfect after that period, but i dont think thats it,
> because i disabled my antivirus in the previous post, through
> msconfig, and it still took a very long time to load
>
> "Daave" wrote:
>
>> PATRICK wrote:
>>
>>> I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i get
>>> to the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However after i
>>> logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be able
>>> to use programs.
>>
>> After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If so,
>> it sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files on
>> your
>> hard drive.

Maybe you only *think* you disabled it.

Anyway, Process Explorer should tell you what's slowing things down:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx

Personally, I wouldn't be that concerned if your PC achieves an
acceptable speed in four minutes.

If it was my desktop i wouldn't mind, but for my laptop i would like it to
get up and go, so i can open it, turn it on and use it for school without
havin to wait half the class time for me to use it. Ill try this process
explorer and see.

"Daave" wrote:

> PATRICK wrote:
> > Yea, it runs perfect after that period, but i dont think thats it,
> > because i disabled my antivirus in the previous post, through
> > msconfig, and it still took a very long time to load
> >
> > "Daave" wrote:
> >
> >> PATRICK wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i get
> >>> to the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However after i
> >>> logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be able
> >>> to use programs.
> >>
> >> After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If so,
> >> it sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files on
> >> your
> >> hard drive.
>
> Maybe you only *think* you disabled it.
>
> Anyway, Process Explorer should tell you what's slowing things down:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx
>
> Personally, I wouldn't be that concerned if your PC achieves an
> acceptable speed in four minutes.
>
>
>

I got it, but i dont see any programs that would be doin it. I'm at a loss
on why it is doing this.

"PATRICK" wrote:

> If it was my desktop i wouldn't mind, but for my laptop i would like it to
> get up and go, so i can open it, turn it on and use it for school without
> havin to wait half the class time for me to use it. Ill try this process
> explorer and see.
>
> "Daave" wrote:
>
> > PATRICK wrote:
> > > Yea, it runs perfect after that period, but i dont think thats it,
> > > because i disabled my antivirus in the previous post, through
> > > msconfig, and it still took a very long time to load
> > >
> > > "Daave" wrote:
> > >
> > >> PATRICK wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i get
> > >>> to the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However after i
> > >>> logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be able
> > >>> to use programs.
> > >>
> > >> After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If so,
> > >> it sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files on
> > >> your
> > >> hard drive.
> >
> > Maybe you only *think* you disabled it.
> >
> > Anyway, Process Explorer should tell you what's slowing things down:
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx
> >
> > Personally, I wouldn't be that concerned if your PC achieves an
> > acceptable speed in four minutes.
> >
> >
> >

When you run msconfig, what is listed in the Startup tab?

Which antivirus app do you run?


"PATRICK" <PATRICK.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:611EF021-2173-41A1-9D74-FDABE3896294@microsoft.com...
>I got it, but i dont see any programs that would be doin it. I'm at a
>loss
> on why it is doing this.
>
> "PATRICK" wrote:
>
>> If it was my desktop i wouldn't mind, but for my laptop i would like
>> it to
>> get up and go, so i can open it, turn it on and use it for school
>> without
>> havin to wait half the class time for me to use it. Ill try this
>> process
>> explorer and see.
>>
>> "Daave" wrote:
>>
>> > PATRICK wrote:
>> > > Yea, it runs perfect after that period, but i dont think thats
>> > > it,
>> > > because i disabled my antivirus in the previous post, through
>> > > msconfig, and it still took a very long time to load
>> > >
>> > > "Daave" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> PATRICK wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i
>> > >>> get
>> > >>> to the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However
>> > >>> after i
>> > >>> logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be
>> > >>> able
>> > >>> to use programs.
>> > >>
>> > >> After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If
>> > >> so,
>> > >> it sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files
>> > >> on
>> > >> your
>> > >> hard drive.
>> >
>> > Maybe you only *think* you disabled it.
>> >
>> > Anyway, Process Explorer should tell you what's slowing things
>> > down:
>> >
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx
>> >
>> > Personally, I wouldn't be that concerned if your PC achieves an
>> > acceptable speed in four minutes.
>> >
>> >
>> >

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"Daave" wrote:

> When you run msconfig, what is listed in the Startup tab?
>
> Which antivirus app do you run?
>
>
> "PATRICK" <PATRICK RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:611EF021-2173-41A1-9D74-FDABE3896294@microsoft.com...
> >I got it, but i dont see any programs that would be doin it. I'm at a
> >loss
> > on why it is doing this.
> >
> > "PATRICK" wrote:
> >
> >> If it was my desktop i wouldn't mind, but for my laptop i would like
> >> it to
> >> get up and go, so i can open it, turn it on and use it for school
> >> without
> >> havin to wait half the class time for me to use it. Ill try this
> >> process
> >> explorer and see.
> >>
> >> "Daave" wrote:
> >>
> >> > PATRICK wrote:
> >> > > Yea, it runs perfect after that period, but i dont think thats
> >> > > it,
> >> > > because i disabled my antivirus in the previous post, through
> >> > > msconfig, and it still took a very long time to load
> >> > >
> >> > > "Daave" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> PATRICK wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i
> >> > >>> get
> >> > >>> to the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However
> >> > >>> after i
> >> > >>> logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be
> >> > >>> able
> >> > >>> to use programs.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If
> >> > >> so,
> >> > >> it sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files
> >> > >> on
> >> > >> your
> >> > >> hard drive.
> >> >
> >> > Maybe you only *think* you disabled it.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, Process Explorer should tell you what's slowing things
> >> > down:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx
> >> >
> >> > Personally, I wouldn't be that concerned if your PC achieves an
> >> > acceptable speed in four minutes.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>

Are you logging to a domain? Is or was the laptop ever joined to a
domain? You can enable "verbose logging" and you might find out what
the machine is doing when it is logging on:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325376/

If you think that the problem is related to the User Environment or GPO
then you can enable User Environment logging:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/221833

John

PATRICK wrote:
> I got it, but i dont see any programs that would be doin it. I'm at a loss
> on why it is doing this.
>
> "PATRICK" wrote:
>
>
>>If it was my desktop i wouldn't mind, but for my laptop i would like it to
>>get up and go, so i can open it, turn it on and use it for school without
>>havin to wait half the class time for me to use it. Ill try this process
>>explorer and see.
>>
>>"Daave" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>PATRICK wrote:
>>>
>>>>Yea, it runs perfect after that period, but i dont think thats it,
>>>>because i disabled my antivirus in the previous post, through
>>>>msconfig, and it still took a very long time to load
>>>>
>>>>"Daave" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>PATRICK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i get
>>>>>>to the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However after i
>>>>>>logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be able
>>>>>>to use programs.
>>>>>
>>>>>After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If so,
>>>>>it sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files on
>>>>>your
>>>>>hard drive.
>>>
>>>Maybe you only *think* you disabled it.
>>>
>>>Anyway, Process Explorer should tell you what's slowing things down:
>>>
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx
>>>
>>>Personally, I wouldn't be that concerned if your PC achieves an
>>>acceptable speed in four minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>>

What do you mean a domain?

"John John" wrote:

> Are you logging to a domain? Is or was the laptop ever joined to a
> domain? You can enable "verbose logging" and you might find out what
> the machine is doing when it is logging on:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325376/
>
> If you think that the problem is related to the User Environment or GPO
> then you can enable User Environment logging:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/221833
>
> John
>
> PATRICK wrote:
> > I got it, but i dont see any programs that would be doin it. I'm at a loss
> > on why it is doing this.
> >
> > "PATRICK" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>If it was my desktop i wouldn't mind, but for my laptop i would like it to
> >>get up and go, so i can open it, turn it on and use it for school without
> >>havin to wait half the class time for me to use it. Ill try this process
> >>explorer and see.
> >>
> >>"Daave" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>PATRICK wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Yea, it runs perfect after that period, but i dont think thats it,
> >>>>because i disabled my antivirus in the previous post, through
> >>>>msconfig, and it still took a very long time to load
> >>>>
> >>>>"Daave" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>PATRICK wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i get
> >>>>>>to the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However after i
> >>>>>>logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be able
> >>>>>>to use programs.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If so,
> >>>>>it sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files on
> >>>>>your
> >>>>>hard drive.
> >>>
> >>>Maybe you only *think* you disabled it.
> >>>
> >>>Anyway, Process Explorer should tell you what's slowing things down:
> >>>
> >>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx
> >>>
> >>>Personally, I wouldn't be that concerned if your PC achieves an
> >>>acceptable speed in four minutes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>

I thought you said you had disabled AVG. I suppose you re-enabled it. Is
it the barebones antivirus or the deluxe suite, including the firewall?
If the latter, it's conflicting with Zone Alarm. Also, have you disabled
the Windows firewall?

Unless you have malware disguised as a legit process, you seem clean.
Search Google for details, but you'll see a number of these are not
essential. Do you overclock? If not, the first one can be disabled.

One trick is to disable half of these startup items and see if the slow
startup is fixed. Then narrow it down further.

Do you have AVG set up to automatically scan your hard drive? If so,
when is it scheduled to do so?



PATRICK wrote:
> Nvcpl - rundll32.exe
> synTPEnh - for mouse pad
> Stsystra
> "nwiz
> "rundll32
> zcfgsvc - wireless
> ifrmewrk -wireless
> quickset - batter management/mousepad settings
> avgcc - AVG ANTIVIRUS
> jusched -java
> zlive- zonealarms firewall
> Msnmsgr
> ctfmon
>
>
> "Daave" wrote:
>
>> When you run msconfig, what is listed in the Startup tab?
>>
>> Which antivirus app do you run?
>>
>>
>> "PATRICK" <PATRICK DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:611EF021-2173-41A1-9D74-FDABE3896294@microsoft.com...
>>> I got it, but i dont see any programs that would be doin it. I'm
>>> at a
>>> loss
>>> on why it is doing this.
>>>
>>> "PATRICK" wrote:
>>>
>>>> If it was my desktop i wouldn't mind, but for my laptop i would
>>>> like
>>>> it to
>>>> get up and go, so i can open it, turn it on and use it for school
>>>> without
>>>> havin to wait half the class time for me to use it. Ill try this
>>>> process
>>>> explorer and see.
>>>>
>>>> "Daave" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> PATRICK wrote:
>>>>>> Yea, it runs perfect after that period, but i dont think thats
>>>>>> it,
>>>>>> because i disabled my antivirus in the previous post, through
>>>>>> msconfig, and it still took a very long time to load
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Daave" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PATRICK wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> to the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However
>>>>>>>> after i
>>>>>>>> logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>> to use programs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If
>>>>>>> so,
>>>>>>> it sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> hard drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you only *think* you disabled it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, Process Explorer should tell you what's slowing things
>>>>> down:
>>>>>
>>>>>
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I wouldn't be that concerned if your PC achieves an
>>>>> acceptable speed in four minutes.

Do you log on to a server, like the school server? A domain is a group
of computers that are centrally managed. Follow Daave's advice
regarding AV software. If after doing what Daave suggests you are still
having logon delays you can enable verbose logging and see what is going
on when you logon to the machine.

John

PATRICK wrote:

> What do you mean a domain?
>
> "John John" wrote:
>
>
>>Are you logging to a domain? Is or was the laptop ever joined to a
>>domain? You can enable "verbose logging" and you might find out what
>>the machine is doing when it is logging on:
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/325376/
>>
>>If you think that the problem is related to the User Environment or GPO
>>then you can enable User Environment logging:
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/221833
>>
>>John
>>
>>PATRICK wrote:
>>
>>>I got it, but i dont see any programs that would be doin it. I'm at a loss
>>>on why it is doing this.
>>>
>>>"PATRICK" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it was my desktop i wouldn't mind, but for my laptop i would like it to
>>>>get up and go, so i can open it, turn it on and use it for school without
>>>>havin to wait half the class time for me to use it. Ill try this process
>>>>explorer and see.
>>>>
>>>>"Daave" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>PATRICK wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yea, it runs perfect after that period, but i dont think thats it,
>>>>>>because i disabled my antivirus in the previous post, through
>>>>>>msconfig, and it still took a very long time to load
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Daave" wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>PATRICK wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I have a dell vostro laptop, and when i hit the power button i get
>>>>>>>>to the logon window with no problem, fast and all. However after i
>>>>>>>>logon it takes about 4 minutes for icons to show up, and to be able
>>>>>>>>to use programs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>After the four-minute process is over, does your PC run fine? If so,
>>>>>>>it sounds like your antivirus program is scanning all the files on
>>>>>>>your
>>>>>>>hard drive.
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe you only *think* you disabled it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyway, Process Explorer should tell you what's slowing things down:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/ProcessExplorer.mspx
>>>>>
>>>>>Personally, I wouldn't be that concerned if your PC achieves an
>>>>>acceptable speed in four minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>