Recovering email?

Hi Frank and thanks for the feedback. All the suggestions have
something to do with copying regestry keys. In my case this is
not possible since their is no way to boot into the machine. I can
however copy all the files under Microsoft Mail. Does that get
me anything?

thanks,
charles....

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" <franksaunders.RemoveThis@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> "***** charles" <me.RemoveThis@mine.com> wrote in message
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> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have a Vista Basic machine with one account on it.
> > I need to save the emails off it so I can wipe the hd
> > and reinstall from scratch. After the reinstall I would
> > like to put back the emails. This leads to several
> > questions:
> >
> > 1. are the emails under my account or program files?
> >
> > 2. which file do I need to copy or do I need to copy
> > the whole directory?
> >
> > 3. will a W2K machine read a Vista NTFS file system?
> >
> > thanks,
> > charles....
> >
> >
>
> See the section on Windows Mail here:
> http://www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx
>
> --
> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
> Do not send mail.
>

***** charles;442343 Wrote:
> Hi Frank and thanks for the feedback. All the suggestions have
> something to do with copying regestry keys. In my case this is
> not possible since their is no way to boot into the machine. I can
> however copy all the files under Microsoft Mail. Does that get
> me anything?
>
> thanks,
> charles....
>
>

Hi Charles,

Your emails will be stored at this location with the .eml file
extension:

C:\users\(your user name)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local
Folders

You can save the "Local Folders" folder with all of it's contents and
save it to your new setup, then Import from the emails from that folder.

You can use the "To Reset Windows Mail" as a reference to help at this
tutorial.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/62560-windows-mail-problems.html

Shawn


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>
> ***** charles;442343 Wrote:
> > Hi Frank and thanks for the feedback. All the suggestions have
> > something to do with copying regestry keys. In my case this is
> > not possible since their is no way to boot into the machine. I can
> > however copy all the files under Microsoft Mail. Does that get
> > me anything?
> >
> > thanks,
> > charles....
> >
> >
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> Your emails will be stored at this location with the .eml file
> extension:
>
> C:\users\(your user name)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local
> Folders
>
> You can save the "Local Folders" folder with all of it's contents and
> save it to your new setup, then Import from the emails from that folder.
>
> You can use the "To Reset Windows Mail" as a reference to help at this
> tutorial.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/62560-windows-mail-problems.html
>
> Shawn

I went to that folder from the above and it only had subdirectories
in it. The inbox subdirectory was the only one that had a file with an
ending of .eml and it was 24K big. Is this the file that you are talking
about?

thanks,
charles.....


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> "brink" <brink.2weef7.RemoveThis@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message
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>>
>> ***** charles;442343 Wrote:
>> > Hi Frank and thanks for the feedback. All the suggestions have
>> > something to do with copying regestry keys. In my case this is
>> > not possible since their is no way to boot into the machine. I can
>> > however copy all the files under Microsoft Mail. Does that get
>> > me anything?
>>
>> Hi Charles,
>>
>> Your emails will be stored at this location with the .eml file
>> extension:
>>
>> C:\users\(your user name)\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local
>> Folders
>>
>> You can save the "Local Folders" folder with all of it's contents and
>> save it to your new setup, then Import from the emails from that folder.
>>
>> You can use the "To Reset Windows Mail" as a reference to help at this
>> tutorial.
>>
>> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/62560-windows-mail-problems.html
>>
>> Shawn
>
> I went to that folder from the above and it only had subdirectories
> in it. The inbox subdirectory was the only one that had a file with an
> ending of .eml and it was 24K big. Is this the file that you are talking
> about?

Then whatever took out the machine also took out all the mail but one
message unless you're looking under the wrong Windows User.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

***** charles;442376 Wrote:
>
> I went to that folder from the above and it only had subdirectories
> in it. The inbox subdirectory was the only one that had a file with an
> ending of .eml and it was 24K big. Is this the file that you are
> talking
> about?
>
> thanks,
> charles.....

Charles,

The subfolders in "Local Folders" are the mailbox folders in Windows
Mail. If you only had one .eml in the Inbox, then this would be the
default welcome email from Window Mail. Like Frank has suggested, you
might not be in the correct user account for the emails you are looking
for. Otherwise, they have been deleted.

Shawn


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> > I went to that folder from the above and it only had subdirectories
> > in it. The inbox subdirectory was the only one that had a file with an
> > ending of .eml and it was 24K big. Is this the file that you are
talking
> > about?
>
> Then whatever took out the machine also took out all the mail but one
> message unless you're looking under the wrong Windows User.
> Frank

Under the Users directory is the following:

All Users
Default
Default User
Public
Fred

"Fred" is the only account on the machine and the only eml file on
the whole drive is
7FF14025-00000001.eml
and it is in the Inbox directory.

Does this mean that whatever emails were there, if they were there,
are gone?

thanks,
charles......

***** charles;442984 Wrote:
>
> Under the Users directory is the following:
>
> All Users
> Default
> Default User
> Public
> Fred
>
> "Fred" is the only account on the machine and the only eml file on
> the whole drive is
> 7FF14025-00000001.eml
> and it is in the Inbox directory.
>
> Does this mean that whatever emails were there, if they were there,
> are gone?
>
> thanks,
> charles......

Charles,

It does appear that they are all gone if that is all that is in there.
When you open Windows Mail, do you have any email message in there
still? If you do, then use the Export option (File menu) to save your
messages to a new folder on the desktop or in your personal user
folders. You can then save that folder to a external media (EX: DVD or
USB key) You can Import it back when done reinstalling.

Shawn


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>
> ***** charles;442984 Wrote:
> >
> > Under the Users directory is the following:
> >
> > All Users
> > Default
> > Default User
> > Public
> > Fred
> >
> > "Fred" is the only account on the machine and the only eml file on
> > the whole drive is
> > 7FF14025-00000001.eml
> > and it is in the Inbox directory.
> >
> > Does this mean that whatever emails were there, if they were there,
> > are gone?
> >
> > thanks,
> > charles......
>
> Charles,
>
> It does appear that they are all gone if that is all that is in there.
> When you open Windows Mail, do you have any email message in there
> still? If you do, then use the Export option (File menu) to save your
> messages to a new folder on the desktop or in your personal user
> folders. You can then save that folder to a external media (EX: DVD or
> USB key) You can Import it back when done reinstalling.

The Vista that is on the hard drive is so messed up that the only
way it will boot successfully is through safe mode command
prompt - no gui. I am just trying to salvage what I can before
I wipe and reinstall from scratch. I am reading the hard drive
from another computer that has 2KPro on it. I don't think
there was all that much email on it anyway.

thanks,
charles......

***** charles;443030 Wrote:
>
>
> The Vista that is on the hard drive is so messed up that the only
> way it will boot successfully is through safe mode command
> prompt - no gui. I am just trying to salvage what I can before
> I wipe and reinstall from scratch. I am reading the hard drive
> from another computer that has 2KPro on it. I don't think
> there was all that much email on it anyway.
>
> thanks,
> charles......

Charles,

If you had any email that you really needed, then you might attempt
doing a Repair Install of Vista. If not, I would just do a clean
install.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-repair-install-vista.html

Shawn


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>
> ***** charles;443030 Wrote:
> >
> >
> > The Vista that is on the hard drive is so messed up that the only
> > way it will boot successfully is through safe mode command
> > prompt - no gui. I am just trying to salvage what I can before
> > I wipe and reinstall from scratch. I am reading the hard drive
> > from another computer that has 2KPro on it. I don't think
> > there was all that much email on it anyway.
> >
> > thanks,
> > charles......
>
> Charles,
>
> If you had any email that you really needed, then you might attempt
> doing a Repair Install of Vista. If not, I would just do a clean
> install.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/88236-repair-install-vista.html

First, thanks for sticking with me all this time. The HP laptop has a
special F11 function when you boot it up it has several utility like
programs available. One was restore points which didn't work since
none had been set and another one was backing up ones data. The
backup procedure goes through and not only does ones email but
a lot of other directories like documents and pictures. I
used that to backup all the related data from the "fred" account
onto a usb hard drive, took a long time. Then I used the restore
function to reformat and reinstall the system from scratch just like
it came from the factory. I didn't need the restore cd's but next
time I will have them. After I restored the C: partition, I did the
Windows updates and restored the data back onto the C:
partition from the usb drive and I was back in business. Next time
I won't fumble around so much during a crisis like this having been
through it once before. Also backing up ones data under Vista
seems to be a bit easier than in XP, interesting.

thanks again,
charles.....