Message Rules working erratically?

Have you been able to narrow it down? Recently I thought I understood what
was happening, that WM's internal junk mail filter was processing messages
before my own rules could grab them. But then I realized that SOME messages
ARE correctly routed to their folders, and that it seems entirely random
which ones are and which aren't. Now I think it's just absolutely erratic.
Really annoying. And before getting your message I thought I was the only
one!

"CSharpner" <CSharpner DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:DEBDD6B2-9603-43BC-96E5-010FB4FC9572@microsoft.com...
> Me Too! This same problem existed in Outlook Express on XP. I switched
> to
> Thunderbird for about 2 years until Vista came out. I thought I'd give
> the
> new Windows Mail a try. Though there are improvements over OE, the mail
> rules are still broken. I may be switching back to Thunderbird again.
> Their
> rules always work and their search is far far far superior. I believe MS
> has
> spread their developers too thin. There are so many bugs that have been
> around for years. Though their new stuff is cool, it would be nice for
> them
> to concentrate on reliability rather than glitz.
>
> "Rick" wrote:
>
>> I'm finding that my Message Rules sometimes don't work -- a message will
>> end
>> up in Inbox or Junk Mail rather than the folder I've specified.
>>
>>

It's seems completely random to me. I see no rhym or reason. I've found no
pattern. Also, some rules just don't get applied at all, but only to SOME
messages. I think MS needs to take a hard look at the code (or possibly just
rewrite it).

"Rick" wrote:

> Have you been able to narrow it down? Recently I thought I understood what
> was happening, that WM's internal junk mail filter was processing messages
> before my own rules could grab them. But then I realized that SOME messages
> ARE correctly routed to their folders, and that it seems entirely random
> which ones are and which aren't. Now I think it's just absolutely erratic.
> Really annoying. And before getting your message I thought I was the only
> one!
>
> "CSharpner" <CSharpner RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DEBDD6B2-9603-43BC-96E5-010FB4FC9572@microsoft.com...
> > Me Too! This same problem existed in Outlook Express on XP. I switched
> > to
> > Thunderbird for about 2 years until Vista came out. I thought I'd give
> > the
> > new Windows Mail a try. Though there are improvements over OE, the mail
> > rules are still broken. I may be switching back to Thunderbird again.
> > Their
> > rules always work and their search is far far far superior. I believe MS
> > has
> > spread their developers too thin. There are so many bugs that have been
> > around for years. Though their new stuff is cool, it would be nice for
> > them
> > to concentrate on reliability rather than glitz.
> >
> > "Rick" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm finding that my Message Rules sometimes don't work -- a message will
> >> end
> >> up in Inbox or Junk Mail rather than the folder I've specified.
> >>
> >>
>
>

"Rick" <blue_no-spam-pls_heron3 RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
news:O4fpMwe6HHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Have you been able to narrow it down? Recently I thought I understood
> what was happening, that WM's internal junk mail filter was processing
> messages before my own rules could grab them. But then I realized that
> SOME messages ARE correctly routed to their folders, and that it seems
> entirely random which ones are and which aren't. Now I think it's just
> absolutely erratic. Really annoying. And before getting your message I
> thought I was the only one!
>
> "CSharpner" <CSharpner RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:DEBDD6B2-9603-43BC-96E5-010FB4FC9572@microsoft.com...
>> Me Too! This same problem existed in Outlook Express on XP. I switched
>> to
>> Thunderbird for about 2 years until Vista came out. I thought I'd give
>> the
>> new Windows Mail a try. Though there are improvements over OE, the mail
>> rules are still broken. I may be switching back to Thunderbird again.
>> Their
>> rules always work and their search is far far far superior. I believe MS
>> has
>> spread their developers too thin. There are so many bugs that have been
>> around for years. Though their new stuff is cool, it would be nice for
>> them
>> to concentrate on reliability rather than glitz.
>>
>> "Rick" wrote:
>>
>>> I'm finding that my Message Rules sometimes don't work -- a message will
>>> end
>>> up in Inbox or Junk Mail rather than the folder I've specified.
>>>
>>>
>

Your rules are processed after the junk mail filters and therefore will only
apply to items that pass through the junk mail filters.

All rules that move mail to a folder or delete it must be placed first and
must also have the action "Stop processing more rules" or a later rule might
override them.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.

I don't have a solution for the message rule issue, but regarding your
other question, both top or bottom posting are accepted in this
newsgroup. You'll find top posting more common in the Microsoft
newsgroups, while it is often denounced by old-timers in the
non-MS newsgroups.

Gary VanderMolen

"CSharpner" <MicrosoftGroups.DeleteThis@CSharpner.com> wrote in message news:28BA0CBD-20D5-4B8F-BE47-9593E9A5DEA4@microsoft.com...
> (Should we top or bottom post?)
>
> Thanks. That's good information. However, sometimes, some of my messages
> don't get a rule applied to them at all. They're just left, sitting in the
> root of the inbox, when there is a rule to handle them. I've deleted and
> recreated the rule(s) that apply to them an even tried adding rules to other
> rules, but some of the messages just sit there no matter what. I have to
> manually drag them over myself.
>
> "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM" wrote:
>
>> "Rick" <blue_no-spam-pls_heron3.DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:O4fpMwe6HHA.5212@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> > Have you been able to narrow it down? Recently I thought I understood
>> > what was happening, that WM's internal junk mail filter was processing
>> > messages before my own rules could grab them. But then I realized that
>> > SOME messages ARE correctly routed to their folders, and that it seems
>> > entirely random which ones are and which aren't. Now I think it's just
>> > absolutely erratic. Really annoying. And before getting your message I
>> > thought I was the only one!
>> >
>> > "CSharpner" <CSharpner.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:DEBDD6B2-9603-43BC-96E5-010FB4FC9572@microsoft.com...
>> >> Me Too! This same problem existed in Outlook Express on XP. I switched
>> >> to
>> >> Thunderbird for about 2 years until Vista came out. I thought I'd give
>> >> the
>> >> new Windows Mail a try. Though there are improvements over OE, the mail
>> >> rules are still broken. I may be switching back to Thunderbird again.
>> >> Their
>> >> rules always work and their search is far far far superior. I believe MS
>> >> has
>> >> spread their developers too thin. There are so many bugs that have been
>> >> around for years. Though their new stuff is cool, it would be nice for
>> >> them
>> >> to concentrate on reliability rather than glitz.
>> >>
>> >> "Rick" wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'm finding that my Message Rules sometimes don't work -- a message will
>> >>> end
>> >>> up in Inbox or Junk Mail rather than the folder I've specified.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>>
>> Your rules are processed after the junk mail filters and therefore will only
>> apply to items that pass through the junk mail filters.
>>
>> All rules that move mail to a folder or delete it must be placed first and
>> must also have the action "Stop processing more rules" or a later rule might
>> override them.
>>
>> --
>> Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
>> Do not send mail.
>>

"CSharpner" <MicrosoftGroups.TakeThisOut@CSharpner.com> wrote in message
news:28BA0CBD-20D5-4B8F-BE47-9593E9A5DEA4@microsoft.com...
> (Should we top or bottom post?)
>
> Thanks. That's good information. However, sometimes, some of my messages
> don't get a rule applied to them at all. They're just left, sitting in
> the
> root of the inbox, when there is a rule to handle them. I've deleted and
> recreated the rule(s) that apply to them an even tried adding rules to
> other
> rules, but some of the messages just sit there no matter what. I have to
> manually drag them over myself.


Does the rule that should have affected the message have "Stop processing
more rules" as one of the actions?

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Do not send mail.