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Since: Jun 15, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:46 am
Post subject: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post - see below) Archived from groups: microsoft>public>windowsxp>help_and_support (more info?)
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(Sorry for re-posting, but I noticed a typo in my earlier Subject line which
may have discouraged people from having a look. I tried to Cancel the message,
but it didn`t work...)
Windows XP Home SP2 :
In the above folder there are over 150 log files all entitled KB******.txt.
Some are in blue and some in black, and many are years old. Although I haven`t
opened every one, those that I have read seem to be error reports, sometimes
relating to software on my machine, and sometimes apparent failures with Windows
Update . The errors cannot have been major, as everything seems to be working
fine and I am not getting pesky reminders from Windows Update about anything.
Is it safe to delete any or all of these, please? And can I configure things so
that either these reports are deleted automatically after a certain time, or are
not generated in the first place (although I guess they could be useful on
occasion)?
Many thanks
Kate |
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Since: Jul 22, 2007 Posts: 304
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:46 am
Post subject: Re: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post - see below) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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if the are simply log
files, they are likely
expendable.
there are lots of
utilities that will
delete them as a
regular routine in
removing clutter, trash,
etc, files from the disk.
what you can do is
to move them all
into the temp directory
and see if you pc functions
normally after a reasonable
amount of time has passed.
if so, then delete them.
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"Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23giG5aJ7HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> (Sorry for re-posting, but I noticed a typo in my earlier Subject line which
> may have discouraged people from having a look. I tried to Cancel the
> message,
> but it didn`t work...)
>
> Windows XP Home SP2 :
>
> In the above folder there are over 150 log files all entitled KB******.txt.
> Some are in blue and some in black, and many are years old. Although I
> haven`t
> opened every one, those that I have read seem to be error reports, sometimes
> relating to software on my machine, and sometimes apparent failures with
> Windows
> Update . The errors cannot have been major, as everything seems to be working
> fine and I am not getting pesky reminders from Windows Update about anything.
> Is it safe to delete any or all of these, please? And can I configure things
> so
> that either these reports are deleted automatically after a certain time, or
> are
> not generated in the first place (although I guess they could be useful on
> occasion)?
>
> Many thanks
> Kate
>
>
>
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Since: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 1457
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:46 am
Post subject: Re: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Kate wrote:
> (Sorry for re-posting, but I noticed a typo in my earlier Subject line which
> may have discouraged people from having a look. I tried to Cancel the message,
> but it didn`t work...)
>
> Windows XP Home SP2 :
>
> In the above folder there are over 150 log files all entitled KB******.txt.
> Some are in blue and some in black, and many are years old. Although I haven`t
> opened every one, those that I have read seem to be error reports, sometimes
> relating to software on my machine, and sometimes apparent failures with Windows
> Update . The errors cannot have been major, as everything seems to be working
> fine and I am not getting pesky reminders from Windows Update about anything.
> Is it safe to delete any or all of these, please?
You're mostly correct. These are the log and uninstallation files for
any service packs and patches installed via Windows Update.
If you're confident that you won't need to uninstall either the
service pack or any of the subsequent hotfixes, you can safely delete
those folders. You can then, if you like, open the Control Panel's
Add/Remove Programs applet and select each of the pertinent removal
choices, in turn. You should get an error message stating that the
removal files are missing, and asking if you'd like to delete the menu
option.
> And can I configure things so
> that either these reports are deleted automatically after a certain time, or are
> not generated in the first place (although I guess they could be useful on
> occasion)?
>
There is no built-in means of doing this. You could, if you want an
automated method badly enough, create a batch file or Visual Basic
script to delete these folders, and set it as a scheduled task.
Personally, I just add these to the list of periodic maintenance chores
(disk cleanup, defragmentation, etc.) that I do each month, and manually
delete them.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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Since: Jul 22, 2007 Posts: 304
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:46 am
Post subject: Re: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post - see below) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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VB scripting,
using the a/r control panel,
etc, just for managing log files....
MR. Bruce Chambers, MVP
you obviously know too much.
DON"T TROLL ON MY
SUBTHREAD AGAIN.
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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers.RemoveThis@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:O2YrxXL7HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Kate wrote:
>> (Sorry for re-posting, but I noticed a typo in my earlier Subject line which
>> may have discouraged people from having a look. I tried to Cancel the
>> message,
>> but it didn`t work...)
>>
>> Windows XP Home SP2 :
>>
>> In the above folder there are over 150 log files all entitled KB******.txt.
>> Some are in blue and some in black, and many are years old. Although I
>> haven`t
>> opened every one, those that I have read seem to be error reports, sometimes
>> relating to software on my machine, and sometimes apparent failures with
>> Windows
>> Update . The errors cannot have been major, as everything seems to be
>> working
>> fine and I am not getting pesky reminders from Windows Update about anything.
>> Is it safe to delete any or all of these, please?
>
>
> You're mostly correct. These are the log and uninstallation files for any
> service packs and patches installed via Windows Update.
>
> If you're confident that you won't need to uninstall either the service
> pack or any of the subsequent hotfixes, you can safely delete those folders.
> You can then, if you like, open the Control Panel's Add/Remove Programs applet
> and select each of the pertinent removal choices, in turn. You should get an
> error message stating that the removal files are missing, and asking if you'd
> like to delete the menu option.
>
>
>> And can I configure things so
>> that either these reports are deleted automatically after a certain time, or
>> are
>> not generated in the first place (although I guess they could be useful on
>> occasion)?
>>
>
>
> There is no built-in means of doing this. You could, if you want an automated
> method badly enough, create a batch file or Visual Basic script to delete
> these folders, and set it as a scheduled task. Personally, I just add these to
> the list of periodic maintenance chores (disk cleanup, defragmentation, etc.)
> that I do each month, and manually delete them.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Since: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 1457
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:46 am
Post subject: Re: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. . wrote:
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> DON"T TROLL ON MY
> SUBTHREAD AGAIN.
>
If you don't want your blatant errors pointed out to the people seeking
help, simply stop posting errant nonsense.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Since: Jul 22, 2007 Posts: 304
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:06 am
Post subject: BRUCE CHAMBERS MVP - STOP TROLLING [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"If you're confident that you won't need to uninstall either the
service pack or any of the subsequent hotfixes, you can safely delete
those folders" - Bruce Chambers, MVP
sounds like what everyone
else says, but you have a
certain stench with the way
you do it.
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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers.RemoveThis@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:O0SiCgM7HHA.980@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. . wrote:
>
>>
>> DON"T TROLL ON MY
>> SUBTHREAD AGAIN.
>>
>
>
> If you don't want your blatant errors pointed out to the people seeking help,
> simply stop posting errant nonsense.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Since: Jun 15, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:48 am
Post subject: Re: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post - see below) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I will try moving the files like you suggest. Then I think I will check
regularly to see when these files are generated and try to relate them to any
noticeable event that has occurred.
Thanks for the reply.
Kate
" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:%23e5fndK7HHA.5424@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> if the are simply log
> files, they are likely
> expendable.
>
> there are lots of
> utilities that will
> delete them as a
> regular routine in
> removing clutter, trash,
> etc, files from the disk.
>
> what you can do is
> to move them all
> into the temp directory
> and see if you pc functions
> normally after a reasonable
> amount of time has passed.
>
> if so, then delete them.
>
> --
>
> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
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>
> .
>
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> "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23giG5aJ7HHA.5404@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> (Sorry for re-posting, but I noticed a typo in my earlier Subject line which
>> may have discouraged people from having a look. I tried to Cancel the
>> message,
>> but it didn`t work...)
>>
>> Windows XP Home SP2 :
>>
>> In the above folder there are over 150 log files all entitled KB******.txt.
>> Some are in blue and some in black, and many are years old. Although I
>> haven`t
>> opened every one, those that I have read seem to be error reports, sometimes
>> relating to software on my machine, and sometimes apparent failures with
>> Windows
>> Update . The errors cannot have been major, as everything seems to be
>> working
>> fine and I am not getting pesky reminders from Windows Update about anything.
>> Is it safe to delete any or all of these, please? And can I configure things
>> so
>> that either these reports are deleted automatically after a certain time, or
>> are
>> not generated in the first place (although I guess they could be useful on
>> occasion)?
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Kate
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Since: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 1457
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:48 am
Post subject: Re: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Kate wrote:
> I will try moving the files like you suggest. Then I think I will check
> regularly to see when these files are generated and try to relate them to any
> noticeable event that has occurred.
>
Don't bother. "db" clearly has no idea what those folders are.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
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Since: Jul 22, 2007 Posts: 304
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:48 am
Post subject: Re: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post - see below) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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there is much information on
the net for them:
http://chris.pirillo.com/media/2007/08/18/what-are-log-files/
quoting famous philosophers in
your replies does insult the
intellectual community
but someone who trolls onto
the subthreads of others and
makes unprofessional and
unwarranted remarks would
try to mask their ill character.
incidentally, who was the person
who nominated you as an MVP?
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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers.RemoveThis@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:%23cHj%23fL7HHA.5164@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Kate wrote:
>> I will try moving the files like you suggest. Then I think I will check
>> regularly to see when these files are generated and try to relate them to any
>> noticeable event that has occurred.
>>
>
>
> Don't bother. "db" clearly has no idea what those folders are.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Since: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 1457
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:48 am
Post subject: Re: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. . wrote:
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> there is much information on
> the net for them:
>
> http://chris.pirillo.com/media/2007/08/18/what-are-log-files/
>
You really are utterly clueless, aren't you? That web site has
absolutely *NOTHING* to do with the Windows Update Uninstall folders or
the OP's questions regarding them.
You've gone off on a complete tangent, as usual. Do you also post
under the pseudonym of "Andrew E?" Your replies usually have the same
utter lack of relevancy or accuracy.
> quoting famous philosophers in
> your replies does insult the
> intellectual community
>
Really? How so?
> but someone who trolls onto
> the subthreads of others and
> makes unprofessional and
> unwarranted remarks would
> try to mask their ill character.
>
It's not "trolling" to point out to the OP that you're not trying to
help. If you don't want your blatant errors pointed out to the people
seeking help, simply stop posting errant nonsense.
> incidentally, who was the person
> who nominated you as an MVP?
>
>
No idea. But I've been re-award every year since then, so I must be
doing something right.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Since: Jul 22, 2007 Posts: 304
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 11:48 am
Post subject: Re: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post - see below) [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
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>> incidentally, who was the person
>> who nominated you as an MVP?
>>
>>
>
>
> No idea. But I've been re-award every year since then, so I must be doing
> something right.
>
> Bruce Chambers
Frankly, I think you do have an idea
but do not want to say and prefer to
lie about knowing.
Actually, the MVP award is provided to those for
their "outstanding contributions" to the community.
But as far as we can tell your only contributions
has been your unprofessional responses in these
newsgroups and to yourself.
Surely, the Microsoft mvp administrators were
desperate or delusional. However, it might also
be attributed to one of your qualifications that
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Since: Sep 01, 2007 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:31 pm
Post subject: Re: KB****** Log files in Windows folder (apologies for repeat post- see [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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> No idea. But I've been re-award every year since then, so I must be
> doing something right.
>
> --
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> Bruce Chambers
>
YES. POSTING COMPLETE AND UTTER NONSENSICAL ITEMS LIKE ATTACKING PEOPLE
LIKE "db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. .
<databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>" WHO IS ONLY TRYING TO HELP
PEOPLE HERE!
Is it that time of the year that you need some more postings under your
belt to renew your obedience to his lordship Uncle Bill?
Good luck to you.
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Since: Jun 15, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:42 pm
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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers RemoveThis @cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:O2YrxXL7HHA.5796@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Kate wrote:
>> (Sorry for re-posting, but I noticed a typo in my earlier Subject line which
>> may have discouraged people from having a look. I tried to Cancel the
>> message, but it didn`t work...)
>>
>> Windows XP Home SP2 :
>>
>> In the above folder there are over 150 log files all entitled KB******.txt.
>> Some are in blue and some in black, and many are years old. Although I
>> haven`t opened every one, those that I have read seem to be error reports,
>> sometimes relating to software on my machine, and sometimes apparent failures
>> with Windows Update. The errors cannot have been major, as everything seems
>> to be working fine and I am not getting pesky reminders from Windows Update
>> about anything. Is it safe to delete any or all of these, please?
>
> You're mostly correct. These are the log and uninstallation files for any
> service packs and patches installed via Windows Update.
>
> If you're confident that you won't need to uninstall either the service
> pack or any of the subsequent hotfixes, you can safely delete those folders.
> You can then, if you like, open the Control Panel's Add/Remove Programs applet
> and select each of the pertinent removal choices, in turn. You should get an
> error message stating that the removal files are missing, and asking if you'd
> like to delete the menu option.
>
>
>> And can I configure things so that either these reports are deleted
>> automatically after a certain time, or are not generated in the first place
>> (although I guess they could be useful on occasion)?
>>
>
> There is no built-in means of doing this. You could, if you want an automated
> method badly enough, create a batch file or Visual Basic script to delete
> these folders, and set it as a scheduled task. Personally, I just add these to
> the list of periodic maintenance chores (disk cleanup, defragmentation, etc.)
> that I do each month, and manually delete them.
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
> deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>
> Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell
Now that you have drawn my attention to it, now I see that the KB numbers of the
log files correspond to the $NTUninstallKB folders. Having followed a thread in
this NG sometime ago where someone was concerned about the huge number of these
folders he had on his system, I follow the advice given and delete them about a
couple of months or so after installing the Windows Updates, if all is well. So
in future I shall also delete the relevant log file as well.
Thank you for the help.
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Since: Aug 23, 2005 Posts: 1457
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2007 4:11 am
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Kate wrote:
>
>
> Now that you have drawn my attention to it, now I see that the KB numbers of the
> log files correspond to the $NTUninstallKB folders. Having followed a thread in
> this NG sometime ago where someone was concerned about the huge number of these
> folders he had on his system, I follow the advice given and delete them about a
> couple of months or so after installing the Windows Updates, if all is well. So
> in future I shall also delete the relevant log file as well.
>
> Thank you for the help.
> Kate
>
>
>
>
>
>
You're welcome.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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