Heat issues with amd!!

SC Tom
I got the notebook brand new custom built in Jan of 09.The specs of my
system are on my profile but here they are anyway

Maker:HP
Model: Pavillion DV4ZCTO (custom to order)
Processor:AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core QL-60 1.9 GHZ

Im not able to get to the fan, bc in order to get to that i have to
unscrew the entire panel on the bottom of my notebook which seems to be
a pain due to the small screws, but do you think that blowing some
compressed air in short bursts would help get some dust away from the
fan?
Also how would I be able to set the throttle back options?
And my notebooks fan starts up like within say 5 minutes of loading
vista, and runs louder even when say transferring a file from an
external drive or especially when watching a movie, so id say under not
so much a light or heavy load but more towards a medium, but when it
gets loud, it gets very very loud and hot so what would your suggestion
be to get HP to tinker with it?


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hpx64

Do not blow compressed air in from the outside, the dust is not on the fan,
it's built up and covered the fins of the heatsink. It's possible, if
there's a decent amount of dust, you'll shove it into the fan and it will
stop altogether, it needs to be taken apart and cleaned.

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"hpx64" <guest.DeleteThis@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> SC Tom
> I got the notebook brand new custom built in Jan of 09.The specs of my
> system are on my profile but here they are anyway
>
> Maker:HP
> Model: Pavillion DV4ZCTO (custom to order)
> Processor:AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core QL-60 1.9 GHZ
>
> Im not able to get to the fan, bc in order to get to that i have to
> unscrew the entire panel on the bottom of my notebook which seems to be
> a pain due to the small screws, but do you think that blowing some
> compressed air in short bursts would help get some dust away from the
> fan?
> Also how would I be able to set the throttle back options?
> And my notebooks fan starts up like within say 5 minutes of loading
> vista, and runs louder even when say transferring a file from an
> external drive or especially when watching a movie, so id say under not
> so much a light or heavy load but more towards a medium, but when it
> gets loud, it gets very very loud and hot so what would your suggestion
> be to get HP to tinker with it?
>
>
> --
> hpx64

"hpx64" <guest.DeleteThis@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:8a1bc3dd378deec185a505d8c73178b0@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> SC Tom
> I got the notebook brand new custom built in Jan of 09.The specs of my
> system are on my profile but here they are anyway
>
> Maker:HP
> Model: Pavillion DV4ZCTO (custom to order)
> Processor:AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core QL-60 1.9 GHZ
>
> Im not able to get to the fan, bc in order to get to that i have to
> unscrew the entire panel on the bottom of my notebook which seems to be
> a pain due to the small screws, but do you think that blowing some
> compressed air in short bursts would help get some dust away from the
> fan?
> Also how would I be able to set the throttle back options?
> And my notebooks fan starts up like within say 5 minutes of loading
> vista, and runs louder even when say transferring a file from an
> external drive or especially when watching a movie, so id say under not
> so much a light or heavy load but more towards a medium, but when it
> gets loud, it gets very very loud and hot so what would your suggestion
> be to get HP to tinker with it?
>
>
> --
> hpx64

This is a newsgroup, not a forum, so I (we) don't see your profile.

From the looks of the maintenance manual
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01597750.pdf on page 18, it looks
like the 4 vents are part of the removable panels. Remove each of them and
see if there is much dust inside. I wouldn't imagine there being too much on
a notebook that new unless you have it sitting on a blanket or have a few
pets in the house. If there is some dust/hair, leave those covers off and
blow air back through the exhaust vents.

Get a good monitoring program like Core Temp or HWMonitor and see what the
actual CPU temps are. If they're within range, and the fan really is
abnormally loud, I'd contact HP about it if it's still under warranty. If
the CPU temps are too high, I'd contact someone to fix it regardless of
warranty status. According to http://tinyurl.com/navwvw , the max temp
shouldn't be above 100C. From experience, I know HP's can be quite loud, but
it's generally a "whooshing" sound of the fan at high speed without any
rattling. The fan will audibly run almost all the time on a notebook, even
if it's at a very low RPM.

The CPU should throttle itself back when under a lesser load. I shouldn't
have mentioned that, I guess. You can get a program like HWInfo32 that will
show whether it is or not.

If the notebook is out of warranty and you decide to tackle removing the
covers to get to the CPU and heat sink, that first link I posted is a good
guide. It can be a daunting undertaking, but not an impossible one. If you
don't have a good screwdriver set, buy one; you certainly don't want to mess
up one of these small screws.

SC Tom

There are no profiles here, this is usenet.

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"hpx64" <guest RemoveThis @unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> SC Tom
> I got the notebook brand new custom built in Jan of 09.The specs of my
> system are on my profile but here they are anyway
>
> Maker:HP
> Model: Pavillion DV4ZCTO (custom to order)
> Processor:AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core QL-60 1.9 GHZ
>
> Im not able to get to the fan, bc in order to get to that i have to
> unscrew the entire panel on the bottom of my notebook which seems to be
> a pain due to the small screws, but do you think that blowing some
> compressed air in short bursts would help get some dust away from the
> fan?
> Also how would I be able to set the throttle back options?
> And my notebooks fan starts up like within say 5 minutes of loading
> vista, and runs louder even when say transferring a file from an
> external drive or especially when watching a movie, so id say under not
> so much a light or heavy load but more towards a medium, but when it
> gets loud, it gets very very loud and hot so what would your suggestion
> be to get HP to tinker with it?
>
>
> --
> hpx64

do you use a 64 bit vista os? if you do then try using a 32 bit version instead? your issue may get resolved. let me know.



hpx64 wrote:

Heat issues with amd!!
22-Sep-09

Does any one here also have a AMD Athlon X2 based HP notebook with heat
issues? meaning that when the notebook gets hot the fan is more than
noticeably loud? Any suggestions or tweaks that will help fix it? So far
i have used an external cooling pad, some of which dont work as they
claim, and i have tried to elevate it from the back which helps some.


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Previous Posts In This Thread:

On Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:05 PM
hpx64 wrote:

Heat issues with amd!!
Does any one here also have a AMD Athlon X2 based HP notebook with heat
issues? meaning that when the notebook gets hot the fan is more than
noticeably loud? Any suggestions or tweaks that will help fix it? So far
i have used an external cooling pad, some of which dont work as they
claim, and i have tried to elevate it from the back which helps some.


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hpx64

On Tuesday, September 22, 2009 9:27 PM
SC Tom wrote:

Re: Heat issues with amd!!
How old is the notebook? What make and model?
Have you checked the vents for dust?
Are you able to get to the CPU heat sink to clean the dust from it and the
fan?
Is there more than one fan? All fans can be cleaned and oiled.
Are your power options set up to throttle back the CPU when on battery?
Does it get hot under a slight load or just under heavier loads?

SC Tom

On Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:41 AM
hpx64 wrote:

SC TomI got the notebook brand new custom built in Jan of 09.
SC Tom
I got the notebook brand new custom built in Jan of 09.The specs of my
system are on my profile but here they are anyway

Maker:HP
Model: Pavillion DV4ZCTO (custom to order)
Processor:AMD Athlon X2 Dual Core QL-60 1.9 GHZ

Im not able to get to the fan, bc in order to get to that i have to
unscrew the entire panel on the bottom of my notebook which seems to be
a pain due to the small screws, but do you think that blowing some
compressed air in short bursts would help get some dust away from the
fan?
Also how would I be able to set the throttle back options?
And my notebooks fan starts up like within say 5 minutes of loading
vista, and runs louder even when say transferring a file from an
external drive or especially when watching a movie, so id say under not
so much a light or heavy load but more towards a medium, but when it
gets loud, it gets very very loud and hot so what would your suggestion
be to get HP to tinker with it?


--
hpx64

On Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:12 AM
David B. wrote:

Do not blow compressed air in from the outside, the dust is not on the fan,
Do not blow compressed air in from the outside, the dust is not on the fan,
it is built up and covered the fins of the heatsink. it is possible, if
there is a decent amount of dust, you will shove it into the fan and it will
stop altogether, it needs to be taken apart and cleaned.

--


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On Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:19 AM
SC Tom wrote:

Re: Heat issues with amd!!
This is a newsgroup, not a forum, so I (we) do not see your profile.

From the looks of the maintenance manual
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c01597750.pdf on page 18, it looks
like the 4 vents are part of the removable panels. Remove each of them and
see if there is much dust inside. I would not imagine there being too much on
a notebook that new unless you have it sitting on a blanket or have a few
pets in the house. If there is some dust/hair, leave those covers off and
blow air back through the exhaust vents.

Get a good monitoring program like Core Temp or HWMonitor and see what the
actual CPU temps are. If they are within range, and the fan really is
abnormally loud, I'd contact HP about it if it is still under warranty. If
the CPU temps are too high, I'd contact someone to fix it regardless of
warranty status. According to http://tinyurl.com/navwvw , the max temp
should not be above 100C. From experience, I know HP's can be quite loud, but
it is generally a "whooshing" sound of the fan at high speed without any
rattling. The fan will audibly run almost all the time on a notebook, even
if it is at a very low RPM.

The CPU should throttle itself back when under a lesser load. I should not
have mentioned that, I guess. You can get a program like HWInfo32 that will
show whether it is or not.

If the notebook is out of warranty and you decide to tackle removing the
covers to get to the CPU and heat sink, that first link I posted is a good
guide. It can be a daunting undertaking, but not an impossible one. If you
do not have a good screwdriver set, buy one; you certainly do not want to mess
up one of these small screws.

SC Tom

On Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:50 AM
David B. wrote:

There are no profiles here, this is usenet.
There are no profiles here, this is usenet.

You are obviously not aware that the "forum" you are posting in
(vistax64.com) leaches most
of it is posts from the Microsoft News Server in order to make it look far
busier than it is.

You will get a far better experience if you use a newsreader and subscribe
to these groups directly, rather than through the leaching site your using.
Setting up Outlook Express/Windows Mail to access Microsoft newsgroups
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/outlookexpressnewreader.htm

Accessing the MS newsgroups in Outlook Express/Windows Mail Newsreader
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/newsgroupsetup.mspx

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