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Adam Strange

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:40 am
Post subject: Downgrade Vista -> XP for Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo notebook Pa 3515
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Please help me !
I have just bought a notebook Amilo Pa 3515, preinstalled with Vista.
But I want to remove Vista, and reinstall XP.
Impossible : while installing, when XP reboots, all stops with an error
message (hard disk misconfigured, fdisk /?, etc. )

How to solve this problem ? New computers preinstalled with Microsoft
Vista become harder and harder to use with freedom ! At home, I am no
longer my proper master, but Mr Gates controls my rights and life !

/Adam Strange/
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Ken Blake, MVP

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:40 am
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On Sat, 02 May 2009 08:40:16 -0500, Adam Strange <adam.DeleteThis@rann.org>
wrote:

> Please help me !
> I have just bought a notebook Amilo Pa 3515, preinstalled with Vista.
> But I want to remove Vista, and reinstall XP.
> Impossible : while installing, when XP reboots, all stops with an error
> message (hard disk misconfigured, fdisk /?, etc. )


You're doing it wrong. A downgrade is not possible. You have to clean
install Vista and that means you have to boot from the Vista DVD.

Bear in mind, however, that your laptop's manufacturer may not have
drivers for your laptop available for XP, and if try to install it
without first making sure the drivers exist, you may find yourself up
the creek without a paddle.


> How to solve this problem ? New computers preinstalled with Microsoft
> Vista become harder and harder to use with freedom !


I completely disagree with you, but what operating system you prefer
is your choice.


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Ken Blake, MVP

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 8:40 am
Post subject: Re: Downgrade Vista -> XP for Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo notebook Pa 3515 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:21:36 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake.TakeThisOut@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

> On Sat, 02 May 2009 08:40:16 -0500, Adam Strange <adam.TakeThisOut@rann.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Please help me !
> > I have just bought a notebook Amilo Pa 3515, preinstalled with Vista.
> > But I want to remove Vista, and reinstall XP.
> > Impossible : while installing, when XP reboots, all stops with an error
> > message (hard disk misconfigured, fdisk /?, etc. )
>
>
> You're doing it wrong. A downgrade is not possible. You have to clean
> install Vista and that means you have to boot from the Vista DVD.


Sorry, my error. I meant from the XP CD.

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Ken Blake, MVP

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:46 am
Post subject: Re: Downgrade Vista -> XP for Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo notebook Pa 3515 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:23:29 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:

> On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:21:36 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 02 May 2009 08:40:16 -0500, Adam Strange <adam.RemoveThis@rann.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Please help me !
> > > I have just bought a notebook Amilo Pa 3515, preinstalled with Vista.
> > > But I want to remove Vista, and reinstall XP.
> > > Impossible : while installing, when XP reboots, all stops with an error
> > > message (hard disk misconfigured, fdisk /?, etc. )
> >
> >
> > You're doing it wrong. A downgrade is not possible. You have to clean
> > install Vista and that means you have to boot from the Vista DVD.
>
>
> Sorry, my error. I meant from the XP CD.


And of course I also meant "to clean install XP."

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Adam Strange

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 4:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Downgrade Vista -> XP for Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo notebook Pa 3515 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:23:29 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> <kblake.TakeThisOut@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:21:36 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
>> <kblake.TakeThisOut@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 02 May 2009 08:40:16 -0500, Adam Strange <adam.TakeThisOut@rann.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please help me !
>>>> I have just bought a notebook Amilo Pa 3515, preinstalled with Vista.
>>>> But I want to remove Vista, and reinstall XP.
>>>> Impossible : while installing, when XP reboots, all stops with an error
>>>> message (hard disk misconfigured, fdisk /?, etc. )
>>>
>>> You're doing it wrong. A downgrade is not possible. You have to clean
>>> install Vista and that means you have to boot from the Vista DVD.
>>
>> Sorry, my error. I meant from the XP CD.
>
>
> And of course I also meant "to clean install XP."

Sorry, I don't like Vista. I remarked that Linux Mandriva runs pretty
good with that computer...
I have a solution : virtualization with VirtualBox for Windows XP, or
2000, or even 98 !
I have converted a laptop Acer preinstalled with Vista to XP, but I must
change the Bios to succeed between the multiples obstacles Mr Bill Gates
places on our way, limiting our freedom.

/Adam/
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Ken Blake, MVP

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 4:29 pm
Post subject: Re: Downgrade Vista -> XP for Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo notebook Pa 3515 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 02 May 2009 16:29:18 -0500, Adam Strange <adam.RemoveThis@rann.org>
wrote:

> Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:23:29 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> > <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:21:36 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> >> <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 02 May 2009 08:40:16 -0500, Adam Strange <adam.RemoveThis@rann.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Please help me !
> >>>> I have just bought a notebook Amilo Pa 3515, preinstalled with Vista.
> >>>> But I want to remove Vista, and reinstall XP.
> >>>> Impossible : while installing, when XP reboots, all stops with an error
> >>>> message (hard disk misconfigured, fdisk /?, etc. )
> >>>
> >>> You're doing it wrong. A downgrade is not possible. You have to clean
> >>> install Vista and that means you have to boot from the Vista DVD.
> >>
> >> Sorry, my error. I meant from the XP CD.
> >
> >
> > And of course I also meant "to clean install XP."
>
> Sorry, I don't like Vista.


No need to be sorry. You have a right to your likes and dislikes, and
I wasn't trying to talk you into anything. As I said "what operating
system you prefer is your choice."

The only reason I replied to you was to point out that your plan of
switching to XP may not be possible because the needed XP drivers for
your laptop may not exist.



> I remarked that Linux Mandriva runs pretty
> good with that computer...
> I have a solution : virtualization with VirtualBox for Windows XP, or
> 2000, or even 98 !
> I have converted a laptop Acer preinstalled with Vista to XP, but I must
> change the Bios to succeed between the multiples obstacles Mr Bill Gates
> places on our way, limiting our freedom.
>
> /Adam/

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Anteaus

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 12:07 pm
Post subject: Re: Downgrade Vista -> XP for Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo notebook Pa 35 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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IIRC these laptops have SATA disks.

You need to go into the BIOS settings, and chence the disk access-method
from SATA native mode (AHCI) to legacy IDE mode.

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:

> On Sat, 02 May 2009 16:29:18 -0500, Adam Strange <adam.DeleteThis@rann.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > > On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:23:29 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> > > <kblake.DeleteThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:21:36 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> > >> <kblake.DeleteThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Sat, 02 May 2009 08:40:16 -0500, Adam Strange <adam.DeleteThis@rann.org>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Please help me !
> > >>>> I have just bought a notebook Amilo Pa 3515, preinstalled with Vista.
> > >>>> But I want to remove Vista, and reinstall XP.
> > >>>> Impossible : while installing, when XP reboots, all stops with an error
> > >>>> message (hard disk misconfigured, fdisk /?, etc. )
> > >>>
> > >>> You're doing it wrong. A downgrade is not possible. You have to clean
> > >>> install Vista and that means you have to boot from the Vista DVD.
> > >>
> > >> Sorry, my error. I meant from the XP CD.
> > >
> > >
> > > And of course I also meant "to clean install XP."
> >
> > Sorry, I don't like Vista.
>
>
> No need to be sorry. You have a right to your likes and dislikes, and
> I wasn't trying to talk you into anything. As I said "what operating
> system you prefer is your choice."
>
> The only reason I replied to you was to point out that your plan of
> switching to XP may not be possible because the needed XP drivers for
> your laptop may not exist.
>
>
>
> > I remarked that Linux Mandriva runs pretty
> > good with that computer...
> > I have a solution : virtualization with VirtualBox for Windows XP, or
> > 2000, or even 98 !
> > I have converted a laptop Acer preinstalled with Vista to XP, but I must
> > change the Bios to succeed between the multiples obstacles Mr Bill Gates
> > places on our way, limiting our freedom.
> >
> > /Adam/
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun May 03, 2009 1:33 pm
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On Sun, 3 May 2009 12:07:01 -0700, Anteaus
<Anteaus.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> IIRC these laptops have SATA disks.
>
> You need to go into the BIOS settings, and chence the disk access-method
> from SATA native mode (AHCI) to legacy IDE mode.


*I* need to into the BIOS? No, I don't; I'm not the one with the
problem. Please be careful to reply to the correct message in the
thread.



> "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 02 May 2009 16:29:18 -0500, Adam Strange <adam.RemoveThis@rann.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:23:29 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> > > > <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:21:36 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> > > >> <kblake.RemoveThis@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> On Sat, 02 May 2009 08:40:16 -0500, Adam Strange <adam.RemoveThis@rann.org>
> > > >>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Please help me !
> > > >>>> I have just bought a notebook Amilo Pa 3515, preinstalled with Vista.
> > > >>>> But I want to remove Vista, and reinstall XP.
> > > >>>> Impossible : while installing, when XP reboots, all stops with an error
> > > >>>> message (hard disk misconfigured, fdisk /?, etc. )
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You're doing it wrong. A downgrade is not possible. You have to clean
> > > >>> install Vista and that means you have to boot from the Vista DVD.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry, my error. I meant from the XP CD.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And of course I also meant "to clean install XP."
> > >
> > > Sorry, I don't like Vista.
> >
> >
> > No need to be sorry. You have a right to your likes and dislikes, and
> > I wasn't trying to talk you into anything. As I said "what operating
> > system you prefer is your choice."
> >
> > The only reason I replied to you was to point out that your plan of
> > switching to XP may not be possible because the needed XP drivers for
> > your laptop may not exist.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I remarked that Linux Mandriva runs pretty
> > > good with that computer...
> > > I have a solution : virtualization with VirtualBox for Windows XP, or
> > > 2000, or even 98 !
> > > I have converted a laptop Acer preinstalled with Vista to XP, but I must
> > > change the Bios to succeed between the multiples obstacles Mr Bill Gates
> > > places on our way, limiting our freedom.
> > >
> > > /Adam/
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >

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MrNiceBender

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:22 am
Post subject: Re: Downgrade Vista -> XP for Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo notebook Pa 35 [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On May 3, 11:33 pm, "Ken Blake, MVP"
<kbl....TakeThisOut@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 May 2009 12:07:01 -0700, Anteaus
>
> <Ante....TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > IIRC these laptops have SATA disks.
>
> > You need to go into the BIOS settings, and chence the disk access-method
> > from SATA native mode (AHCI) to legacy IDE mode.
>
> *I* need to into the BIOS? No, I don't; I'm not the one with the
> problem. Please be careful to reply to the correct message in the
> thread.
>
>
>
> > "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote:
>
> > > On Sat, 02 May 2009 16:29:18 -0500, Adam Strange <a....TakeThisOut@rann.org>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:23:29 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> > > > > <kbl....TakeThisOut@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
> > > > >> On Sat, 02 May 2009 07:21:36 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
> > > > >> <kbl....TakeThisOut@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote:
>
> > > > >>> On Sat, 02 May 2009 08:40:16 -0500, Adam Strange <a....TakeThisOut@rann.org>
> > > > >>> wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> Please help me !
> > > > >>>> I have just bought a notebook Amilo Pa 3515, preinstalled with Vista.
> > > > >>>> But I want to remove Vista, and reinstall XP.
> > > > >>>> Impossible : while installing, when XP reboots, all stops with an error
> > > > >>>> message (hard disk  misconfigured, fdisk /?, etc. )
>
> > > > >>> You're doing it wrong. A downgrade is not possible. You have to clean
> > > > >>> install Vista and that means you have to boot from the Vista DVD.
>
> > > > >> Sorry, my error. I meant from the XP CD.
>
> > > > > And of course I also meant "to clean install XP."
>
> > > > Sorry, I don't like Vista.
>
> > > No need to be sorry. You have a right to your likes and dislikes, and
> > > I wasn't trying to talk you into anything. As I said "what operating
> > > system you prefer is your choice."
>
> > > The only reason I replied to you was to point out that your plan of
> > > switching to XP may not be possible because the needed XP drivers for
> > > your laptop may not exist.
>
> > > > I remarked that Linux Mandriva runs pretty
> > > > good with that computer...
> > > > I have a solution : virtualization with VirtualBox for Windows XP, or
> > > > 2000, or even 98 !
> > > > I have converted a laptop Acer preinstalled with Vista to XP, but I must
> > > > change the Bios to succeed between the multiples obstacles Mr Bill Gates
> > > > places on our way, limiting our freedom.
>
> > > > /Adam/
>
> > > --
> > > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup



You dork, man said true thing, i have the same problem with this
laptop.
I BIOS i have changed sata to native and then windows xp in install
dont crashes.
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