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William B. Lurie

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:19 am
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XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
"Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start up
and "Sign on as Administrator?"

Thank you.
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JS

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:20 am
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There is a hidden 'Administrator' account (the account name is:
Administrator) in Windows.
The default password for this hidden account is normally blank (none).

For XP Home users:
Boot the computer into Safe Mode
Do this by pressing the F8 key (several times) after the Power On Self Test
is finished,
and until the Start menu appears.
This will get you to the correct menu window.

Once in Safe Mode,
you will see the normally hidden Administrator account
and any other accounts.
(Note: Accounts are displayed alphabetically).

Use the mouse or Up/down arrow keys to highlight the 'Administrator'
account.
The default password is a blank (no password required).

For XP Pro users:
You do not need to go into Safe Mode.
At the Welcome Screen, do/press the Ctrl-Alt-Del keys twice
to display the Windows logon box.
Type in "Administrator" (without the quotes),
by default the password is blank, no password need be entered.


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"William B. Lurie" <billurie.RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start up
> and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>
> Thank you.
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William B. Lurie

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:31 am
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Thank you, JS.
I'm in XP Home, and I was aware of the Admin account
via Safe Mode, but thought they wanted me to get
there without a full reboot.

JS wrote:
> There is a hidden 'Administrator' account (the account name is:
> Administrator) in Windows.
> The default password for this hidden account is normally blank (none).
>
> For XP Home users:
> Boot the computer into Safe Mode
> Do this by pressing the F8 key (several times) after the Power On Self Test
> is finished,
> and until the Start menu appears.
> This will get you to the correct menu window.
>
> Once in Safe Mode,
> you will see the normally hidden Administrator account
> and any other accounts.
> (Note: Accounts are displayed alphabetically).
>
> Use the mouse or Up/down arrow keys to highlight the 'Administrator'
> account.
> The default password is a blank (no password required).
>
> For XP Pro users:
> You do not need to go into Safe Mode.
> At the Welcome Screen, do/press the Ctrl-Alt-Del keys twice
> to display the Windows logon box.
> Type in "Administrator" (without the quotes),
> by default the password is blank, no password need be entered.
>
>
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Daave

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:42 am
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William B. Lurie wrote:
> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start up
> and "Sign on as Administrator?"

Try this:

Start | Control Panel | User Accounts

Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts (other than
"Guest") are listed? What does it say under the account you normally
use -- "Computer administrator" or "Limited"?

If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is instructing you to
"Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their support since you
are already paying for it.

Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:02 am
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Daave wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
>> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
>> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
>> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
>> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
>> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
>> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start up
>> and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>
> Try this:
>
> Start | Control Panel | User Accounts
>
> Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts (other than
> "Guest") are listed? What does it say under the account you normally
> use -- "Computer administrator" or "Limited"?
>
> If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is instructing you to
> "Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their support since you
> are already paying for it.
>
> Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
>
>
Au contraire, Dave, I have found their Chat support a tremendous
improvement over their old stiff unhelpful ways. Between times,
they took control and fixed the glitch. I guess i"m one of the'few
people who are happy with them.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:20 am
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What did they do to fix it?

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"William B. Lurie" <billurie.DeleteThis@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Daave wrote:
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
>>> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
>>> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
>>> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
>>> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
>>> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
>>> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start up
>>> and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> Start | Control Panel | User Accounts
>>
>> Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts (other than
>> "Guest") are listed? What does it say under the account you normally
>> use -- "Computer administrator" or "Limited"?
>>
>> If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is instructing you to
>> "Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their support since you
>> are already paying for it.
>>
>> Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
> Au contraire, Dave, I have found their Chat support a tremendous
> improvement over their old stiff unhelpful ways. Between times,
> they took control and fixed the glitch. I guess i"m one of the'few people
> who are happy with them.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:20 am
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William B. Lurie wrote:
> Daave wrote:
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
>>> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
>>> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
>>> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
>>> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
>>> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
>>> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start up
>>> and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> Start | Control Panel | User Accounts
>>
>> Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts (other
>> than "Guest") are listed? What does it say under the account you
>> normally use -- "Computer administrator" or "Limited"?
>>
>> If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is instructing you
>> to "Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their support
>> since you are already paying for it.
>>
>> Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
>>
>>
> Au contraire, Dave, I have found their Chat support a tremendous
> improvement over their old stiff unhelpful ways. Between times,
> they took control and fixed the glitch. I guess i"m one of the'few
> people who are happy with them.

If you like 'em, keep 'em.

So is your account "compter administator"? Never assume. Smile
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:12 pm
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Daave wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> Daave wrote:
>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
>>>> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
>>>> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
>>>> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
>>>> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
>>>> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
>>>> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start up
>>>> and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>>> Try this:
>>>
>>> Start | Control Panel | User Accounts
>>>
>>> Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts (other
>>> than "Guest") are listed? What does it say under the account you
>>> normally use -- "Computer administrator" or "Limited"?
>>>
>>> If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is instructing you
>>> to "Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their support
>>> since you are already paying for it.
>>>
>>> Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
>>>
>>>
>> Au contraire, Dave, I have found their Chat support a tremendous
>> improvement over their old stiff unhelpful ways. Between times,
>> they took control and fixed the glitch. I guess i"m one of the'few
>> people who are happy with them.
>
> If you like 'em, keep 'em.
>
> So is your account "compter administator"? Never assume. Smile
>
>
My main sign-on account is "Compaq Owner". To get to the
"Administrator" account, I have to go to Safe Mode, and
then I get a choice of "Compaq Owner" or "Administrator".
Same guy. I get to wear two hats.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:16 pm
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JS wrote:
> What did they do to fix it?
>
The problem was that my Norton Anti Virus had some
glitch where I couldn't do a Live Update of my A-V
definitions, but their snoopware said I had to. They
went online and took control of my machine remotely,
downloaded a patch of theirs and executed it, and
the problem was solved. Their Chat service has short
waiting time, and many many efficient technician/analysts.
I used to bitch about their poor service, but not any
more.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:20 pm
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William B. Lurie wrote:
> Daave wrote:
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>> Daave wrote:
>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
>>>>> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
>>>>> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
>>>>> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
>>>>> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
>>>>> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
>>>>> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start up
>>>>> and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>>>> Try this:
>>>>
>>>> Start | Control Panel | User Accounts
>>>>
>>>> Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts (other
>>>> than "Guest") are listed? What does it say under the account you
>>>> normally use -- "Computer administrator" or "Limited"?
>>>>
>>>> If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is instructing
>>>> you to "Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their
>>>> support since you are already paying for it.
>>>>
>>>> Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Au contraire, Dave, I have found their Chat support a tremendous
>>> improvement over their old stiff unhelpful ways. Between times,
>>> they took control and fixed the glitch. I guess i"m one of the'few
>>> people who are happy with them.
>>
>> If you like 'em, keep 'em.
>>
>> So is your account "compter administator"? Never assume. Smile
>>
>>
> My main sign-on account is "Compaq Owner". To get to the
> "Administrator" account, I have to go to Safe Mode, and
> then I get a choice of "Compaq Owner" or "Administrator".
> Same guy. I get to wear two hats.

Once more...

Is the account which is called "Compaq Owner" administrative or limited?
(Follow my "Try This" instructions above.) Note that I am *not*
referring whatsoever to the built-in Administrator account which in XP
Home may only be accessed via Safe Mode. Is this the only account you
have?

Have you contacted Norton yet, and if so, did they provide a solution?
If so, please post it so others may learn.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:45 pm
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Daave wrote:
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> Daave wrote:
>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
>>>>>> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
>>>>>> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
>>>>>> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
>>>>>> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
>>>>>> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
>>>>>> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start up
>>>>>> and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>>>>> Try this:
>>>>>
>>>>> Start | Control Panel | User Accounts
>>>>>
>>>>> Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts (other
>>>>> than "Guest") are listed? What does it say under the account you
>>>>> normally use -- "Computer administrator" or "Limited"?
>>>>>
>>>>> If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is instructing
>>>>> you to "Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their
>>>>> support since you are already paying for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Au contraire, Dave, I have found their Chat support a tremendous
>>>> improvement over their old stiff unhelpful ways. Between times,
>>>> they took control and fixed the glitch. I guess i"m one of the'few
>>>> people who are happy with them.
>>> If you like 'em, keep 'em.
>>>
>>> So is your account "compter administator"? Never assume. Smile
>>>
>>>
>> My main sign-on account is "Compaq Owner". To get to the
>> "Administrator" account, I have to go to Safe Mode, and
>> then I get a choice of "Compaq Owner" or "Administrator".
>> Same guy. I get to wear two hats.
>
> Once more...
>
> Is the account which is called "Compaq Owner" administrative or limited?
> (Follow my "Try This" instructions above.) Note that I am *not*
> referring whatsoever to the built-in Administrator account which in XP
> Home may only be accessed via Safe Mode. Is this the only account you
> have?
>
> Have you contacted Norton yet, and if so, did they provide a solution?
> If so, please post it so others may learn.
>
>
Daave, I spent 20 minutes letting Norton take over my machine, download
a patch and execute it. The problem is solved. Obviously there
was a glitch in the software, resulting in the need to be patched.

I did your "Try this" just now, and the answer is that it shows
exactly *one* account in addition to the Guest Account. The
account is labeled Compaq-Owner , and under that, in somewhat
smaller font, "Computer Administrator".

Thanks for following up.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:20 pm
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William B. Lurie wrote:
> Daave wrote:
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>> Daave wrote:
>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>>> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
>>>>>>> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
>>>>>>> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
>>>>>>> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
>>>>>>> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
>>>>>>> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
>>>>>>> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start
>>>>>>> up and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>>>>>> Try this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Start | Control Panel | User Accounts
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts
>>>>>> (other than "Guest") are listed? What does it say under the
>>>>>> account you normally use -- "Computer administrator" or
>>>>>> "Limited"? If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is
>>>>>> instructing
>>>>>> you to "Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their
>>>>>> support since you are already paying for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Au contraire, Dave, I have found their Chat support a tremendous
>>>>> improvement over their old stiff unhelpful ways. Between times,
>>>>> they took control and fixed the glitch. I guess i"m one of the'few
>>>>> people who are happy with them.
>>>> If you like 'em, keep 'em.
>>>>
>>>> So is your account "compter administator"? Never assume. Smile
>>>>
>>>>
>>> My main sign-on account is "Compaq Owner". To get to the
>>> "Administrator" account, I have to go to Safe Mode, and
>>> then I get a choice of "Compaq Owner" or "Administrator".
>>> Same guy. I get to wear two hats.
>>
>> Once more...
>>
>> Is the account which is called "Compaq Owner" administrative or
>> limited? (Follow my "Try This" instructions above.) Note that I am
>> *not* referring whatsoever to the built-in Administrator account
>> which in XP Home may only be accessed via Safe Mode. Is this the
>> only account you have?
>>
>> Have you contacted Norton yet, and if so, did they provide a
>> solution? If so, please post it so others may learn.
>>
>>
> Daave, I spent 20 minutes letting Norton take over my machine,
> download a patch and execute it. The problem is solved. Obviously
> there was a glitch in the software, resulting in the need to be
> patched.
>
> I did your "Try this" just now, and the answer is that it shows
> exactly *one* account in addition to the Guest Account. The
> account is labeled Compaq-Owner , and under that, in somewhat
> smaller font, "Computer Administrator".
>
> Thanks for following up.

YW.

Now you know your account is an administrative account (which means you
may have to be more careful than someone running a limited account when
it comes to activities like installing programs and updates, etc.).

As long as you don't mind spending the occasional "20 minutes letting
Norton take over [your] machine," then you might as well keep Norton if
you are happy with it.

Happy computing. Smile
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:20 am
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"William B. Lurie" <billurie.RemoveThis@nospam.net> wrote in message
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> Daave wrote:
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>> Daave wrote:
>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
>>>>> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
>>>>> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
>>>>> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
>>>>> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
>>>>> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
>>>>> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start up
>>>>> and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>>>> Try this:
>>>>
>>>> Start | Control Panel | User Accounts
>>>>
>>>> Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts (other
>>>> than "Guest") are listed? What does it say under the account you
>>>> normally use -- "Computer administrator" or "Limited"?
>>>>
>>>> If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is instructing you
>>>> to "Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their support
>>>> since you are already paying for it.
>>>>
>>>> Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Au contraire, Dave, I have found their Chat support a tremendous
>>> improvement over their old stiff unhelpful ways. Between times,
>>> they took control and fixed the glitch. I guess i"m one of the'few
>>> people who are happy with them.
>>
>> If you like 'em, keep 'em.
>>
>> So is your account "compter administator"? Never assume. Smile
> My main sign-on account is "Compaq Owner". To get to the
> "Administrator" account, I have to go to Safe Mode, and
> then I get a choice of "Compaq Owner" or "Administrator".
> Same guy. I get to wear two hats.

If "Compaq Owner" appears on the welcome screen in safe mode then it is an
administrator account. Only administrator accounts are offered in safe
mode.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:20 am
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"Daave" <daave DeleteThis @example.com> wrote in message
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>
> William B. Lurie wrote:
>> Daave wrote:
>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>>>> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
>>>>>>>> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
>>>>>>>> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
>>>>>>>> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
>>>>>>>> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and user
>>>>>>>> of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm automatically the
>>>>>>>> "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to specifically start
>>>>>>>> up and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>>>>>>> Try this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Start | Control Panel | User Accounts
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts
>>>>>>> (other than "Guest") are listed? What does it say under the
>>>>>>> account you normally use -- "Computer administrator" or
>>>>>>> "Limited"? If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is
>>>>>>> instructing
>>>>>>> you to "Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their
>>>>>>> support since you are already paying for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Au contraire, Dave, I have found their Chat support a tremendous
>>>>>> improvement over their old stiff unhelpful ways. Between times,
>>>>>> they took control and fixed the glitch. I guess i"m one of the'few
>>>>>> people who are happy with them.
>>>>> If you like 'em, keep 'em.
>>>>>
>>>>> So is your account "compter administator"? Never assume. Smile
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> My main sign-on account is "Compaq Owner". To get to the
>>>> "Administrator" account, I have to go to Safe Mode, and
>>>> then I get a choice of "Compaq Owner" or "Administrator".
>>>> Same guy. I get to wear two hats.
>>>
>>> Once more...
>>>
>>> Is the account which is called "Compaq Owner" administrative or
>>> limited? (Follow my "Try This" instructions above.) Note that I am
>>> *not* referring whatsoever to the built-in Administrator account
>>> which in XP Home may only be accessed via Safe Mode. Is this the
>>> only account you have?
>>>
>>> Have you contacted Norton yet, and if so, did they provide a
>>> solution? If so, please post it so others may learn.
>>>
>>>
>> Daave, I spent 20 minutes letting Norton take over my machine,
>> download a patch and execute it. The problem is solved. Obviously
>> there was a glitch in the software, resulting in the need to be patched.
>>
>> I did your "Try this" just now, and the answer is that it shows
>> exactly *one* account in addition to the Guest Account. The
>> account is labeled Compaq-Owner , and under that, in somewhat
>> smaller font, "Computer Administrator".
>>
>> Thanks for following up.
>
> YW.
>
> Now you know your account is an administrative account (which means you
> may have to be more careful than someone running a limited account when it
> comes to activities like installing programs and updates, etc.).
>

A limited account shouldn't be able to install programs let alone updates.

> As long as you don't mind spending the occasional "20 minutes letting
> Norton take over [your] machine," then you might as well keep Norton if
> you are happy with it.
>

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I hate Norton personally, but I know
people who are extremely satisfied with it. Granted: they know nothing of
computers and it gives the perception of working in the background without
getting in the way, so they are happy.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:55 am
Post subject: Re: Administrator sign-on [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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M.I.5¾ wrote:
> "Daave" <daave.TakeThisOut@example.com> wrote in message
> news:%23LXqlK$LKHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>
>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>> Daave wrote:
>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>>> Daave wrote:
>>>>>>>> William B. Lurie wrote:
>>>>>>>>> XP/SP2.... In order to correct a Norton Anti-Virus problem,
>>>>>>>>> I was asked to "Sign on as Administrator". In the years I've
>>>>>>>>> used XP, I never had to do so. I do Start>>Log Off and I see
>>>>>>>>> a choice of Switch User/Log Off but I don't see any different
>>>>>>>>> log on. I am now, and have always been, the sole owner and
>>>>>>>>> user of this computer and I'd have assumed that I'm
>>>>>>>>> automatically the "Administrator". Can someone tell me how to
>>>>>>>>> specifically start up and "Sign on as Administrator?"
>>>>>>>> Try this:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Start | Control Panel | User Accounts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Underneath "or pick an account to change" how many accounts
>>>>>>>> (other than "Guest") are listed? What does it say under the
>>>>>>>> account you normally use -- "Computer administrator" or
>>>>>>>> "Limited"? If it says "Computer administrator" and if Norton is
>>>>>>>> instructing
>>>>>>>> you to "Sign on as Administrator", then I would contact their
>>>>>>>> support since you are already paying for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then again, you could always ditch Norton. Smile
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Au contraire, Dave, I have found their Chat support a tremendous
>>>>>>> improvement over their old stiff unhelpful ways. Between times,
>>>>>>> they took control and fixed the glitch. I guess i"m one of
>>>>>>> the'few people who are happy with them.
>>>>>> If you like 'em, keep 'em.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So is your account "compter administator"? Never assume. Smile
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> My main sign-on account is "Compaq Owner". To get to the
>>>>> "Administrator" account, I have to go to Safe Mode, and
>>>>> then I get a choice of "Compaq Owner" or "Administrator".
>>>>> Same guy. I get to wear two hats.
>>>>
>>>> Once more...
>>>>
>>>> Is the account which is called "Compaq Owner" administrative or
>>>> limited? (Follow my "Try This" instructions above.) Note that I am
>>>> *not* referring whatsoever to the built-in Administrator account
>>>> which in XP Home may only be accessed via Safe Mode. Is this the
>>>> only account you have?
>>>>
>>>> Have you contacted Norton yet, and if so, did they provide a
>>>> solution? If so, please post it so others may learn.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Daave, I spent 20 minutes letting Norton take over my machine,
>>> download a patch and execute it. The problem is solved. Obviously
>>> there was a glitch in the software, resulting in the need to be
>>> patched. I did your "Try this" just now, and the answer is that it
>>> shows
>>> exactly *one* account in addition to the Guest Account. The
>>> account is labeled Compaq-Owner , and under that, in somewhat
>>> smaller font, "Computer Administrator".
>>>
>>> Thanks for following up.
>>
>> YW.
>>
>> Now you know your account is an administrative account (which means
>> you may have to be more careful than someone running a limited
>> account when it comes to activities like installing programs and
>> updates, etc.).
>
> A limited account shouldn't be able to install programs let alone
> updates.

You are, of course, correct. What I meant to say is that an
administrative account can be more dangerous to run for some people if
they are not careful precisely because more changes can be made to the
PC compared to when one runs a limited account. Programs (sometimes
malicious) and updates (sometimes unwanted) won't be installed unless
the user allows it. And a limited account is more "idiot proof" with
regard to this.

Many people recommend that people use a Limited Account for most of
their activities and only use an administrative one when they need to
install programs and updates. Although I can understand the logic and I
believe that's usually how things are done in the Linux world
(normally), personally I would rather just have a strong backup system
and run as an admin. But for others, I figure it's good to let them know
about the method mentioned above; they can make up their minds.

>> As long as you don't mind spending the occasional "20 minutes letting
>> Norton take over [your] machine," then you might as well keep Norton
>> if you are happy with it.
>>
>
> Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I hate Norton personally, but
> I know people who are extremely satisfied with it. Granted: they
> know nothing of computers and it gives the perception of working in
> the background without getting in the way, so they are happy.

Personally, I hate Norton. Although I understand the lastest version
isn't necessarily too resource-hungry, I still wouldn't recommend it
from past experience and knowing how intrusive it can be. But like you
said, if someone's happy with it, they're happy.
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