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Waz Up

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Since: Apr 17, 2007
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:42 am
Post subject: Windows Update - YUK.
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G'day. What is the protocol to report a "Bad Driver Update" from Windows
Update Site?

I always check updates and check them carefully before I download and
install. However, today I downloaded a drvier update for my Dlink AirPlus
Wireless adapter. After the download, the install began and the system went
into a CONTINUOUS reboot. Safemode and Restore fixed it.

I have all the driver details etc. But I think it prudent to report this.

Thanks,

Waz Up
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Noozer

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:03 am
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"Waz Up" <ms_mvp.TakeThisOut@netservices.net> wrote in message
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> G'day. What is the protocol to report a "Bad Driver Update" from Windows
> Update Site?

There isn't one. ALL the driver updates available on Windows Update are
trash. Anything you get there is going to be MONTHS behind the manufacturers
current version.
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Shenan Stanley

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:04 am
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Waz Up wrote:
> G'day. What is the protocol to report a "Bad Driver Update" from
> Windows Update Site?
>
> I always check updates and check them carefully before I download
> and install. However, today I downloaded a drvier update for my
> Dlink AirPlus Wireless adapter. After the download, the install
> began and the system went into a CONTINUOUS reboot. Safemode and
> Restore fixed it.
> I have all the driver details etc. But I think it prudent to report
> this.

You downloaded hardware drivers for a non-microsoft hardware device from
Microsoft?
Recommendation: Never do that.

Microsoft did not create most of the hardware in your system. They may
offer the driver on their page because the company who actually did create
said hardware gave them the driver and ask them to certify it and post it
and likely *paid* for that priviledge. The process to do this is usually
not 'quick' - and thus - sometimes by the time the driver has been approved
and posted - many more versions of it have been released by the hardware
manufacturer themselves - possibly fixing issues with the driver that is now
posted on the Windows Update web site.

That is why you find little to no suggestions/recommendations to download
the drivers (of any type other than POSSIBLY those products created by
Microsoft) from the Windows Update site.

The problem may not have been the driver itself - but the driver in YOUR
system with the other few dozen factors that make your system different than
every other system on the planet.

Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527

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Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
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How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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Waz Up

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 7:04 am
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Thanks to all. I do realize the reality of the comments regarding this post
and understand that the "Drivers" are Trash. Just didn't pay attention to
the updates this am. I always (well apprently NOT) use the manufacturer's
updates.

Thanks Shenan for the Incident report link. I opened one up just before this
post.

Regards to all.

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Waz Up wrote:
>> G'day. What is the protocol to report a "Bad Driver Update" from
>> Windows Update Site?
>>
>> I always check updates and check them carefully before I download
>> and install. However, today I downloaded a drvier update for my
>> Dlink AirPlus Wireless adapter. After the download, the install
>> began and the system went into a CONTINUOUS reboot. Safemode and
>> Restore fixed it.
>> I have all the driver details etc. But I think it prudent to report
>> this.
>
> You downloaded hardware drivers for a non-microsoft hardware device from
> Microsoft?
> Recommendation: Never do that.
>
> Microsoft did not create most of the hardware in your system. They may
> offer the driver on their page because the company who actually did create
> said hardware gave them the driver and ask them to certify it and post it
> and likely *paid* for that priviledge. The process to do this is usually
> not 'quick' - and thus - sometimes by the time the driver has been
> approved and posted - many more versions of it have been released by the
> hardware manufacturer themselves - possibly fixing issues with the driver
> that is now posted on the Windows Update web site.
>
> That is why you find little to no suggestions/recommendations to download
> the drivers (of any type other than POSSIBLY those products created by
> Microsoft) from the Windows Update site.
>
> The problem may not have been the driver itself - but the driver in YOUR
> system with the other few dozen factors that make your system different
> than every other system on the planet.
>
> Start a free Windows Update support incident request:
> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/default.aspx?gprid=6527
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
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Tim.T

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:05 pm
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I gave up updating long ago, I'm still using SP1 with only one major patch
(the Sasser worm update), precisely because I got sick to death of patches
making things worse than before. I don't think MS have heard of the phrase
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it". Honestly, most patches and updates are
simply about protecting the end user from hacking attempts (read the
detailed description for each update and that is what it always seems to
say!)...which is funny, because that's what I thought a firewall - hardware
or software - is for. A stealthed pc cannot be exploited to the same degree
as one with all its ports exposed to the 'net. As for me, I've had no hacks,
no viruses, no spyware. And my money is still in my bank account Razz I just
don't buy this MS "you must update at all times" BS.

Tim
"Waz Up" <ms_mvp.DeleteThis@netservices.net> wrote in message
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> G'day. What is the protocol to report a "Bad Driver Update" from Windows
> Update Site?
>
> I always check updates and check them carefully before I download and
> install. However, today I downloaded a drvier update for my Dlink AirPlus
> Wireless adapter. After the download, the install began and the system
went
> into a CONTINUOUS reboot. Safemode and Restore fixed it.
>
> I have all the driver details etc. But I think it prudent to report this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Waz Up
>
>
>
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Stan Brown

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 2:40 am
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Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:05:01 +0100 from Tim.T <blah RemoveThis @blah.com>:
> Honestly, most patches and updates are
> simply about protecting the end user from hacking attempts

And about installing various forms of "rights management" for
Microsoft's convenience, not mine. This whole WGA scam, for instance.

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http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"If there's one thing I know, it's men. I ought to: it's
been my life work." -- Marie Dressler, in /Dinner at Eight/
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