Getting internet through Samsung Omnia

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec DeleteThis @AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
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> At 25 Oct 2009 13:52:09 -0400 Douglas J. Steele wrote:
>> Is it possible to hook my laptop to my Omnia via Bluetooth and use the
>> Omnia's Internet connection?
>>
>> While I had no problem pairing the two, the only services I'm seeing
>> offered are Active Sync Bluetooth Service and Image Responder.
>
> See if your Omnia has a program called "Internet Sharing" pre-installed
> on it. It allows you to use the device as a cellular modem.
> Unfortunately, it's a optional Windows Mobile component and is sometimes
> removed by mobile operators to prevent you from tethering on your data
> plan.
>
Thanks, Todd. Fortunately, it had Internet Sharing, and I was able to create
a Bluetooth PAN.

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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec DeleteThis @AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
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> At 25 Oct 2009 13:52:09 -0400 Douglas J. Steele wrote:
> > Is it possible to hook my laptop to my Omnia via Bluetooth and use the
> > Omnia's Internet connection?
> >
> > While I had no problem pairing the two, the only services I'm seeing
> > offered are Active Sync Bluetooth Service and Image Responder.
> >
>
>
> See if your Omnia has a program called "Internet Sharing" pre-installed
> on it. It allows you to use the device as a cellular modem.
> Unfortunately, it's a optional Windows Mobile component and is sometimes
> removed by mobile operators to prevent you from tethering on your data
> plan.

Good point but if he is using bluetooth it should see it as a Network
Connection even if Internet Sharing is not running. What I'd like to know
is what bluetooth software he is using. I'm familiar with Toshiba,
different flavors of Windcomm and I've even seen Linksys bluetooth software
in action.

As a matter of fact I recently learned how to reconnect a Bluetooth mouse.
Just move it or click a button and wait a few seconds. Pretty simple huh?

BTW I've messed with a Samsung i910 or Omnia and I couldn't get it to use
the BT DUN on my own phone so I'm not real thrilled about them.

Now I have a question for you since you know about a TC1100. What do you
know about an LE1700 other than it is discontinued also?

dear sir/madam
i use htc touch diamond pocket pc3 i want a use internet
through my pc can this posible plz send me any good suggetion .i m very
thankfull to u.

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"Roger 2008" <rwpcs.RemoveThis@att.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec.RemoveThis@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
> news:nDaFm.45021$4E.13266@newsfe08.iad...
>> At 25 Oct 2009 13:52:09 -0400 Douglas J. Steele wrote:
>> > Is it possible to hook my laptop to my Omnia via Bluetooth and use the
>> > Omnia's Internet connection?
>> >
>> > While I had no problem pairing the two, the only services I'm seeing
>> > offered are Active Sync Bluetooth Service and Image Responder.
>> >
>>
>>
>> See if your Omnia has a program called "Internet Sharing" pre-installed
>> on it. It allows you to use the device as a cellular modem.
>> Unfortunately, it's a optional Windows Mobile component and is sometimes
>> removed by mobile operators to prevent you from tethering on your data
>> plan.
>
> Good point but if he is using bluetooth it should see it as a Network
> Connection even if Internet Sharing is not running. What I'd like to know
> is what bluetooth software he is using. I'm familiar with Toshiba,
> different flavors of Windcomm and I've even seen Linksys bluetooth
> software
> in action.

I'm certainly no BT expert, but isn't the network connection between a WinMo
device and a PC profile dependent? You wouldn't see a network connection
unless using PAN or Activesync- e.g. a serial-based connection or OBEX file
transfer wouldn't set up a network connection, would it?


> BTW I've messed with a Samsung i910 or Omnia and I couldn't get it to use
> the BT DUN on my own phone so I'm not real thrilled about them.
>
> Now I have a question for you since you know about a TC1100. What do you
> know about an LE1700 other than it is discontinued also?

Sorry, Roger- not a thing, unfortunately. (Which is only a little less than
I actually know about the TC1100 to which I only have played with a few
times, but like them. IIRC, in this NG, Werner is a lot more familiar with
the 1100, and in the cell phone NGs I believe Steve Scharf has discussed
them a bit.)

First to the originator of this thread.

If you want to try using BT DUN on your Omnia you can try PDANet free for 30
days.
http://www.junefabrics.com/pdanet/index.php

I use PDANet on a Touch Diamond so I can use BT DUN instead of BT PAN. I've
tried both BT DUN and BT PAN and even though BT DUN takes longer to setup
initially once it is setup it is easier to use than BT PAN.

If you want to try using PDANet I would suggest you set it up not to use
"Proxy Mode" because it will connect faster. But if you want Internet on
both your phone and a laptop at the same time then you have to use "Proxy
Mode."

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"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec DeleteThis @AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
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>
> I'm certainly no BT expert, but isn't the network connection between a
WinMo
> device and a PC profile dependent?

From what I've seen of Toshiba BT software it will show a "Network
Connection" even if Internet Sharing is not active.

> You wouldn't see a network connection
> unless using PAN or Activesync- e.g. a serial-based connection or OBEX
file
> transfer wouldn't set up a network connection, would it?

It doesn't appear to work like that on Broadcom software either. I still
get the option for using BT PAN even when I am not using Internet Sharing.
But I will not get the option to use BT DUN if I disable PDANet so that part
of it works.

> > Now I have a question for you since you know about a TC1100. What do
you
> > know about an LE1700 other than it is discontinued also?
>
> Sorry, Roger- not a thing, unfortunately. (Which is only a little less
than
> I actually know about the TC1100 to which I only have played with a few
> times, but like them. IIRC, in this NG, Werner is a lot more familiar
with
> the 1100, and in the cell phone NGs I believe Steve Scharf has discussed
> them a bit.)

Yes, I remember a post from Werner about the TC1100 and Windows 7 too.

Let me tell you something funny about the LE1700 by Motion Computing.. The
LE1700 is also a Tablet computer that was given a fast processor because
it's predecessor the LE1600 was too slow. But with the faster processor the
LE1700 heats up and doesn't have a very long battery life so they
discontinued it and came out with yet another Tablet called a J3400.

BTW if you read about the J3400 by "Motion Computing" they like to put down
the LE1700 so why would someone want a LE1700?
http://www.motioncomputing.com/products/tablet_pc_J34.asp

"mohsin78 via PocketPCJunkies.com" <u55494@uwe> wrote in message
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> dear sir/madam
> i use htc touch diamond pocket pc3 i want a use
internet
> through my pc can this posible plz send me any good suggetion .i m very
> thankfull to u.

The first thing you might want to do is check with your provider to see if
they allow you to use your phone for the Internet.

Some providers allow Internet access via your cell phone and some providers
charge extra to use your phone for the Internet.

BTW there used to be a page on windowsmobile.com that gave step by step
instructions for using BT DUN that helped me out but I can't find it
anymore. It looks like it was removed when Microsoft tried to phase out BT
DUN with BT PAN.

> BTW there used to be a page on windowsmobile.com that gave step by
> step instructions for using BT DUN that helped me out but I can't find
> it anymore. It looks like it was removed when Microsoft tried to
> phase out BT DUN with BT PAN.


All you need is my tutorial at http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blog/9/the-
multiplatform-bible-using-your-handset-a-modem

"Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen" <no.TakeThisOut@emails.please> wrote in message
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> > BTW there used to be a page on windowsmobile.com that gave step by
> > step instructions for using BT DUN that helped me out but I can't find
> > it anymore. It looks like it was removed when Microsoft tried to
> > phase out BT DUN with BT PAN.
>
>
> All you need is my tutorial at
http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blog/9/the-multiplatform-bible-using-...r-hands

Thanks because your page is very inforative and cool because you even
mention a TC1100 again. Talking about the TC1100 have you looked at a
LE1600, LE1700 or J3400 yet? The funny thing about the LE1700 is they put
such a hot running processor into it that it makes a better Desktop Computer
than a Tablet computer.

BTW the page I saw that I think was on windowsmobile.com showed how to setup
a WM6 device as a client instead of a Server and I wish I'd kept a copy of
that page.

> Thanks because your page is very inforative and cool because you even
> mention a TC1100 again. Talking about the TC1100 have you looked at a
> LE1600, LE1700 or J3400 yet? The funny thing about the LE1700 is they
> put such a hot running processor into it that it makes a better
> Desktop Computer than a Tablet computer.


Nope, the TC1100 is just the right Tablet PC for me, perfectly suitable for
bed-time Web surfing - or, doing the same while outside and I do need the
higher resolution / Flash compliance not present in my iPhone 3G S (the
device I regularly use for Web browsing outside, while walking from/to work
and the like), particularly now that I have a ruggerized case for it.

I want my "real" computer to have at least a 15" IPS (or of similar,
excellent quality) screen and the resolution of UXGA (1600*1200) or more. A
tablet computer just can't deliver this, mostly because of the screen size
and technology (IPS is heavy and consumes far more power than TN-Film).

"Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen" <no RemoveThis @emails.please> wrote in message
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> > Thanks because your page is very inforative and cool because you even
> > mention a TC1100 again. Talking about the TC1100 have you looked at a
> > LE1600, LE1700 or J3400 yet? The funny thing about the LE1700 is they
> > put such a hot running processor into it that it makes a better
> > Desktop Computer than a Tablet computer.
>
>
> Nope, the TC1100 is just the right Tablet PC for me, perfectly suitable
for
> bed-time Web surfing - or, doing the same while outside and I do need the
> higher resolution / Flash compliance not present in my iPhone 3G S (the
> device I regularly use for Web browsing outside, while walking from/to
work
> and the like), particularly now that I have a ruggerized case for it.
>
> I want my "real" computer to have at least a 15" IPS (or of similar,
> excellent quality) screen and the resolution of UXGA (1600*1200) or more.
A
> tablet computer just can't deliver this, mostly because of the screen size
> and technology (IPS is heavy and consumes far more power than TN-Film).

I know of a Laptop with a15 inch screen that can do 1600x1200. It is the
Dell Inspiron 8000 but not all of the Inspiron 8000s had that resolution.
http://pcworld.about.com/news/May012001id48263.htm

And I know of a slate/tablet computer with a 12 inch screen that can do
1400x1050. It is the LE1700 but it also has an oddball 1.8 in hard drive so
that is a big drawback. BTW the 1400x1050 resoution might have been an
option on that device.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2107214,00.asp

Here is a neat demo on the LE1700 on how the auto rotate for the screen can
be setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8nITG0Rs8Q

But back to the TC1000. Mine has lost two of the little screws in the
middle on the bottom. The only screw left in the middle is the one that
holds the battery in. You wouldn't know where I can get some more little
screws for it would you? TIA.

Plus, I'm thinking of upgrading the Bluetooth module on my TC1000 so I can
put newer Bluetooth software on it and use A2DP. I'm hoping the chip used
is compatible with other Bluetooth chips that HP uses like the
http://www.getpartsonline.com/397922-001-dc020005100.html

"Roger 2008" <rwpcs.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in message
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>
> But back to the TC1000. Mine has lost two of the little screws in the
> middle on the bottom. The only screw left in the middle is the one that
> holds the battery in. You wouldn't know where I can get some more little
> screws for it would you? TIA.
>
> Plus, I'm thinking of upgrading the Bluetooth module on my TC1000 so I can
> put newer Bluetooth software on it and use A2DP. I'm hoping the chip used
> is compatible with other Bluetooth chips that HP uses like the
> http://www.getpartsonline.com/397922-001-dc020005100.html

Oops both those should have said TC1100 instead of TC1000.

> I know of a Laptop with a15 inch screen that can do 1600x1200. It is
> the Dell Inspiron 8000 but not all of the Inspiron 8000s had that
> resolution. http://pcworld.about.com/news/May012001id48263.htm

Yup, thanks - I have two Thinkpads (the t42p and the a31p) with a 15"
1600*1200 IPS screen. They're simply wonderful and just can't be
compared to any TN film cr*p. (I'm planning to buy a 15.4" WUXGA t61p as
a Christmas present to myself, though.)

>
> And I know of a slate/tablet computer with a 12 inch screen that can
> do 1400x1050. It is the LE1700 but it also has an oddball 1.8 in hard
> drive so that is a big drawback. BTW the 1400x1050 resoution might
> have been an option on that device.
> http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2107214,00.asp

Yup, there're 12" SXGA+ models - but they're all using TN Film screens
(read: bad constrast, bad view angle, bad everything except for price
and weight)

>
> But back to the TC1000. Mine has lost two of the little screws in the
> middle on the bottom. The only screw left in the middle is the one
> that holds the battery in. You wouldn't know where I can get some
> more little screws for it would you? TIA.

I've taken out the screw from the battery so that I can quickly swap
batteries. The battery has never wanted to fall out - it's firmly in its
slot. Does yours? If it does, did you look around on HP's homepage /ebay
for spare screws?


>
> Plus, I'm thinking of upgrading the Bluetooth module on my TC1000 so I
> can put newer Bluetooth software on it and use A2DP. I'm hoping the
> chip used is compatible with other Bluetooth chips that HP uses like
> the http://www.getpartsonline.com/397922-001-dc020005100.html

I think some of the capabilities only depend on the operating system,
not the hardware. For example, A2DP works just wonderful (something I
would never have thought) on my TC1100 under Windows 7. Ae you using XP
TE on your TC1100? Then, consider upgrading - W7 is way better,
particularly on a tablet because of the way better handscript
recognition and the other tablet goodies (also present in Vista BTW).
And you won't have problems with A2DP either.

>

"Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen" <no.TakeThisOut@emails.please> wrote in message
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>
> Yup, thanks - I have two Thinkpads (the t42p and the a31p) with a 15"
> 1600*1200 IPS screen. They're simply wonderful and just can't be
> compared to any TN film cr*p. (I'm planning to buy a 15.4" WUXGA t61p as
> a Christmas present to myself, though.)

Wow. Nice:
http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-t61p/4505-3121_7-32553560.html

I hope you can get one with bluetooth builtin because the one in the URL
above doesn't say anything about bluetooth.


> I've taken out the screw from the battery so that I can quickly swap
> batteries.

I wouldn't want to swap batteries because the battery that came with it
doesn't last very long.

> The battery has never wanted to fall out - it's firmly in its
> slot. Does yours?

Good point. I don't need to put that particular scew in there but with the
other two missing I think I should leave it in there.

> If it does, did you look around on HP's homepage /ebay
> for spare screws?

Thanks and one of these days I might check into that.


> And you won't have problems with A2DP either.

When I put Windows 7 on a laptop I couldn't use that laptop as a headset for
my phone. But then again, that particular laptop might have been using a
Toshiba BT adapter instead of a Broadcom adapter.

My TC1100 has XP Tablet on it with the latest BT driver I could find for it.
I've never been able to get the Windows 7 I have to network to any of my
other computers when I put it on a Toshiba laptop so I'm not looking forward
to trying it again.

BTW I have a Motorola S705 Soundpilot and all the TC1100 ever uses it for is
a mono headset and not a Stereo Headset.
http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=152