equation editor/viewer for Palm?

Jonathan,

You could use our product 'Formulae 1' for this if you
have a supported PalmOne device (Treo 600,
Tungsten C, Tungsten E, Tungsten T3).

http://www.poliplus.com/PalmOS_F1.htm


Carlos.

Jonathan Epstein wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I frequently attend scientific seminars and take my notes into the Palm's
> MemoPad.
>
> I would like to have a way to compose equations on the Palm and view them in
> their graphical form (also on the Palm). PC-based analogous solutions
> include LaTeX and the MS Word Equation Editor.
>
> My understanding is that there is no Palm or Java port of LaTeX. Googling I
> found ImagiWorks for Palm, but this doesn't seem that this shows a graphical
> view of an equation, rather it shows graphs of equations.
>
> Thanks for any pointers.
>
> Jonathan

Looks cool, Carlos, although not quite as powerful-looking as the Word
Equation editor, for example, at least at a cursory glance. Maybe you
should post the manual on your website so potential users can get a better
sense of what the product can do.

I have a Treo 270, but will take your product into account when considering
to which Palm I should upgrade.

Jonathan

"Carlos Bazzarella" <cbazzaTAKE RemoveThis @OUTpoliplus.com> wrote in message
news:40993982.1C30D6E7@OUTpoliplus.com...
> Jonathan,
>
> You could use our product 'Formulae 1' for this if you
> have a supported PalmOne device (Treo 600,
> Tungsten C, Tungsten E, Tungsten T3).
>
> http://www.poliplus.com/PalmOS_F1.htm
>
>
> Carlos.
>
> Jonathan Epstein wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I frequently attend scientific seminars and take my notes into the
Palm's
> > MemoPad.
> >
> > I would like to have a way to compose equations on the Palm and view
them in
> > their graphical form (also on the Palm). PC-based analogous solutions
> > include LaTeX and the MS Word Equation Editor.
> >
> > My understanding is that there is no Palm or Java port of LaTeX.
Googling I
> > found ImagiWorks for Palm, but this doesn't seem that this shows a
graphical
> > view of an equation, rather it shows graphs of equations.
> >
> > Thanks for any pointers.
> >
> > Jonathan
>
>

Looks cool, Carlos, although not quite as powerful-looking as the Word
Equation editor, for example, at least at a cursory glance. Maybe you
should post the manual on your website so potential users can get a better
sense of what the product can do.

I have a Treo 270, but will take your product into account when considering
to which Palm I should upgrade.

Jonathan

"Carlos Bazzarella" <cbazzaTAKE DeleteThis @OUTpoliplus.com> wrote in message
news:40993982.1C30D6E7@OUTpoliplus.com...
> Jonathan,
>
> You could use our product 'Formulae 1' for this if you
> have a supported PalmOne device (Treo 600,
> Tungsten C, Tungsten E, Tungsten T3).
>
> http://www.poliplus.com/PalmOS_F1.htm
>
>
> Carlos.
>
> Jonathan Epstein wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I frequently attend scientific seminars and take my notes into the
Palm's
> > MemoPad.
> >
> > I would like to have a way to compose equations on the Palm and view
them in
> > their graphical form (also on the Palm). PC-based analogous solutions
> > include LaTeX and the MS Word Equation Editor.
> >
> > My understanding is that there is no Palm or Java port of LaTeX.
Googling I
> > found ImagiWorks for Palm, but this doesn't seem that this shows a
graphical
> > view of an equation, rather it shows graphs of equations.
> >
> > Thanks for any pointers.
> >
> > Jonathan
>
>

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At 2004-05-05T18:25:13Z, "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein RemoveThis @nih.gov> writes:

> I would like to have a way to compose equations on the Palm and view them
> in their graphical form (also on the Palm). PC-based analogous solutions
> include LaTeX and the MS Word Equation Editor.

You could not pay me to attempt to enter equations in realtime into a PDA.
However, *drawing* the equations in a paint program and then later entering
them into LaTeX might be an acceptable workaround. You still get the
advantages of using a real typesetting language, without having to remember
the penstroke that gets you "phi".
- --
Kirk Strauser
The Strauser Group
Open. Solutions. Simple.
http://www.strausergroup.com/
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At 2004-05-05T18:25:13Z, "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein.TakeThisOut@nih.gov> writes:

> I would like to have a way to compose equations on the Palm and view them
> in their graphical form (also on the Palm). PC-based analogous solutions
> include LaTeX and the MS Word Equation Editor.

You could not pay me to attempt to enter equations in realtime into a PDA.
However, *drawing* the equations in a paint program and then later entering
them into LaTeX might be an acceptable workaround. You still get the
advantages of using a real typesetting language, without having to remember
the penstroke that gets you "phi".
- --
Kirk Strauser
The Strauser Group
Open. Solutions. Simple.
http://www.strausergroup.com/
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Good point, Karl, and I had considered that approach as well.

Do you (or anyone else) know of a Palm drawing program where I could easily
fetch a symbol from a picture library, to make this easier? I'm thinking of
symbols like capital sigma (for summations) and capital pi (for products),
as well as integral signs.

It might be possible to draw this equations in realtime if some of these
frequently-used symbols were pre-drawn.

Jonathan

"Kirk Strauser" <kirk.RemoveThis@strauser.com> wrote in message
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At 2004-05-05T18:25:13Z, "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein.RemoveThis@nih.gov>
writes:

> I would like to have a way to compose equations on the Palm and view them
> in their graphical form (also on the Palm). PC-based analogous solutions
> include LaTeX and the MS Word Equation Editor.

You could not pay me to attempt to enter equations in realtime into a PDA.
However, *drawing* the equations in a paint program and then later entering
them into LaTeX might be an acceptable workaround. You still get the
advantages of using a real typesetting language, without having to remember
the penstroke that gets you "phi".

Good point, Karl, and I had considered that approach as well.

Do you (or anyone else) know of a Palm drawing program where I could easily
fetch a symbol from a picture library, to make this easier? I'm thinking of
symbols like capital sigma (for summations) and capital pi (for products),
as well as integral signs.

It might be possible to draw this equations in realtime if some of these
frequently-used symbols were pre-drawn.

Jonathan

"Kirk Strauser" <kirk.RemoveThis@strauser.com> wrote in message
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At 2004-05-05T18:25:13Z, "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein.RemoveThis@nih.gov>
writes:

> I would like to have a way to compose equations on the Palm and view them
> in their graphical form (also on the Palm). PC-based analogous solutions
> include LaTeX and the MS Word Equation Editor.

You could not pay me to attempt to enter equations in realtime into a PDA.
However, *drawing* the equations in a paint program and then later entering
them into LaTeX might be an acceptable workaround. You still get the
advantages of using a real typesetting language, without having to remember
the penstroke that gets you "phi".

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At 2004-05-05T20:06:13Z, "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein.TakeThisOut@nih.gov> writes:

> Good point, Karl, and I had considered that approach as well.

"Kirk", but who's keeping track?

> It might be possible to draw this equations in realtime if some of these
> frequently-used symbols were pre-drawn.

I don't know of any such program, but I'm not convinced that having a
parallel input method would be significantly quicker. At a minimum, you'd
have to select the symbol and then paste it where you wanted it, and I'm not
sure I could do that faster than I could draw a pi or sigma.

What about something like TealPaint that's basically a miniature graphics
editor, and which lets you flip between screens fairly quickly? You could
open a new "file" for each equation if need be, and can select a very narrow
(even single-pixel) "brush" for drawing small stuff.
- --
Kirk Strauser
The Strauser Group
Open. Solutions. Simple.
http://www.strausergroup.com/
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At 2004-05-05T20:06:13Z, "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein RemoveThis @nih.gov> writes:

> Good point, Karl, and I had considered that approach as well.

"Kirk", but who's keeping track?

> It might be possible to draw this equations in realtime if some of these
> frequently-used symbols were pre-drawn.

I don't know of any such program, but I'm not convinced that having a
parallel input method would be significantly quicker. At a minimum, you'd
have to select the symbol and then paste it where you wanted it, and I'm not
sure I could do that faster than I could draw a pi or sigma.

What about something like TealPaint that's basically a miniature graphics
editor, and which lets you flip between screens fairly quickly? You could
open a new "file" for each equation if need be, and can select a very narrow
(even single-pixel) "brush" for drawing small stuff.
- --
Kirk Strauser
The Strauser Group
Open. Solutions. Simple.
http://www.strausergroup.com/
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> At 2004-05-05T20:06:13Z, "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein.DeleteThis@nih.gov> writ=
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> > Good point, Karl, and I had considered that approach as well.
>
> "Kirk", but who's keeping track?
>
> > It might be possible to draw this equations in realtime if some of these
> > frequently-used symbols were pre-drawn.
>
> I don't know of any such program, but I'm not convinced that having a
> parallel input method would be significantly quicker. At a minimum, you'd
> have to select the symbol and then paste it where you wanted it, and I'm not
> sure I could do that faster than I could draw a pi or sigma.
>
> What about something like TealPaint that's basically a miniature graphics
> editor, and which lets you flip between screens fairly quickly? You could
> open a new "file" for each equation if need be, and can select a very narrow
> (even single-pixel) "brush" for drawing small stuff.

I have read that many high-res palm devices still only digitize at 160 x
160. I had this problem with my Clie NR70V when trying to use Diddle Bug.
You might want to check for this on any potential new Palm device.

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> At 2004-05-05T20:06:13Z, "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein.TakeThisOut@nih.gov> writ=
> es:
>
> > Good point, Karl, and I had considered that approach as well.
>
> "Kirk", but who's keeping track?
>
> > It might be possible to draw this equations in realtime if some of these
> > frequently-used symbols were pre-drawn.
>
> I don't know of any such program, but I'm not convinced that having a
> parallel input method would be significantly quicker. At a minimum, you'd
> have to select the symbol and then paste it where you wanted it, and I'm not
> sure I could do that faster than I could draw a pi or sigma.
>
> What about something like TealPaint that's basically a miniature graphics
> editor, and which lets you flip between screens fairly quickly? You could
> open a new "file" for each equation if need be, and can select a very narrow
> (even single-pixel) "brush" for drawing small stuff.

I have read that many high-res palm devices still only digitize at 160 x
160. I had this problem with my Clie NR70V when trying to use Diddle Bug.
You might want to check for this on any potential new Palm device.

Mea culpa, Kyle.

Johnson

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At 2004-05-05T20:06:13Z, "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein.TakeThisOut@nih.gov>
writes:

> Good point, Karl, and I had considered that approach as well.

"Kirk", but who's keeping track?

Mea culpa, Kyle.

Johnson

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At 2004-05-05T20:06:13Z, "Jonathan Epstein" <Jonathan_Epstein DeleteThis @nih.gov>
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> Good point, Karl, and I had considered that approach as well.

"Kirk", but who's keeping track?