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jeffd

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:10 pm
Post subject: dumb questions? any good freeware 4 windows mobile 5 ??
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was wondering if there is any good freeware for
windows mobile 5...anything I try to download that claims to be window
mobile 5 compatible doesn't run on my ipaq rx1950...i'm a novice here
and was just looking for an unzip utility and a memory release
utility...it seems no programs actually compatible ...is there a
website out there that has mobile 5 freeware ?
why doesn't any mobile 2003 software run on
5.0 ?? on regular pc's Windows OS, don't most of the older programs
still run?? just a novice here..
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Mike Coon

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:00 am
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jeffd wrote:
> was wondering if there is any good freeware for
> windows mobile 5...anything I try to download that claims to be window
> mobile 5 compatible doesn't run on my ipaq rx1950...i'm a novice here
> and was just looking for an unzip utility and a memory release
> utility...it seems no programs actually compatible ...is there a
> website out there that has mobile 5 freeware ?
> why doesn't any mobile 2003 software run on
> 5.0 ?? on regular pc's Windows OS, don't most of the older programs
> still run?? just a novice here..

My Fujitsu-Siemens Loox with WM 5.0 came with [un]zip for free so I haven't
looked. But things I've downloaded seem to run even if there's a warning on
screen that they are "for an older version of the operating system".

Mike.
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jeffd

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:12 am
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Tony A. wrote:
> You're probably trying to run the installers you downloaded directly
> on your ipaq, right? Well don't. Connect your ipaq to your PC, and run
> the installer on the PC, the software will install to the device via
> activesync. That's the way most windows mobile software is packaged.
>
> jeffd wrote:
> > was wondering if there is any good freeware for
> > windows mobile 5...anything I try to download that claims to be
> window
> > mobile 5 compatible doesn't run on my ipaq rx1950...i'm a novice
> here
> > and was just looking for an unzip utility and a memory release
> > utility...it seems no programs actually compatible ...is there a
> > website out there that has mobile 5 freeware ?
> > why doesn't any mobile 2003 software run on
> > 5.0 ?? on regular pc's Windows OS, don't most of the older
> programs
> > still run?? just a novice here..

I don't currently have a regular pc...have been downloading directly,
as you said...no regular pc for a few more months...any way to work
around that? thx, jeff
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Tony A.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 6:20 am
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You're probably trying to run the installers you downloaded directly
on your ipaq, right? Well don't. Connect your ipaq to your PC, and run
the installer on the PC, the software will install to the device via
activesync. That's the way most windows mobile software is packaged.

jeffd wrote:
> was wondering if there is any good freeware for
> windows mobile 5...anything I try to download that claims to be
window
> mobile 5 compatible doesn't run on my ipaq rx1950...i'm a novice
here
> and was just looking for an unzip utility and a memory release
> utility...it seems no programs actually compatible ...is there a
> website out there that has mobile 5 freeware ?
> why doesn't any mobile 2003 software run on
> 5.0 ?? on regular pc's Windows OS, don't most of the older
programs
> still run?? just a novice here..
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Todd Allcock

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:07 am
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At 16 Sep 2006 20:11:21 +0100 Tony A. wrote:
>
> A very small proportion of software is distributed as .cab archives,
> those you can execute on your device (make sure you make a copy of the
> cab file before executing, as they generally delete themselves after
> the install is complete). Unfortunately the chances of you finding
> what you want as a cab file are pretty small.

However, I've occasionally had luck "unzipping" a desktop installer and
finding the cabs inside. I've used Resco Zipper to pull that off. (It
seems better at handling 'non-standard' archives better than Total
Commander, in my experience.)

It doesn't work for every PPC program, but works sometimes.

It's an old trick I learned a few years ago from a Mac owner who
obviously couldn't use his "PC" to run the Windows executables.



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Tony A.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:11 pm
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jeffd wrote:
[...]
> I don't currently have a regular pc...have been downloading
> directly, as you said...no regular pc for a few more months...any
way
> to work around that? thx, jeff

A very small proportion of software is distributed as .cab archives,
those you can execute on your device (make sure you make a copy of the
cab file before executing, as they generally delete themselves after
the install is complete). Unfortunately the chances of you finding
what you want as a cab file are pretty small.

The desktop installers you've been downloading actually contain cab
files, unfortunately as far as I know you need a desktop Windows PC in
order to extract the cab files. If I can take the liberty of pointing
you at Bev Howards page on this, he's got the details there -
http://www.bevhoward.com/bhhpj.htm#Cabs.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:20 pm
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital M

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 5:11 pm
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On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 20:11:21 +0100, "Tony A."
<tony72NNOOSSPPAAMM.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>jeffd wrote:
>[...]
>> I don't currently have a regular pc...have been downloading
>> directly, as you said...no regular pc for a few more months...any
>way
>> to work around that? thx, jeff
>
>A very small proportion of software is distributed as .cab archives,
>those you can execute on your device (make sure you make a copy of the
>cab file before executing, as they generally delete themselves after
>the install is complete). Unfortunately the chances of you finding
>what you want as a cab file are pretty small.
>
>The desktop installers you've been downloading actually contain cab
>files, unfortunately as far as I know you need a desktop Windows PC in
>order to extract the cab files. I


No, usually the cab files will simply be extracted and installed when
tapped in the pocket PC. It's .exe or .msi installers designed for
desktop PCs which can't be run directlty on the device - cab is fine.

Cheers - Neil
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Tony A.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:27 pm
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
[...]
> No, usually the cab files will simply be extracted and installed
when
> tapped in the pocket PC. It's .exe or .msi installers designed for
> desktop PCs which can't be run directlty on the device - cab is
fine.

's what I said Wink
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 7:24 am
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:27:29 +0100, "Tony A."
<tony72NNOOSSPPAAMM.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
>[...]
>> No, usually the cab files will simply be extracted and installed
>when
>> tapped in the pocket PC. It's .exe or .msi installers designed for
>> desktop PCs which can't be run directlty on the device - cab is
>fine.
>
>'s what I said Wink
>


Nope - you said " I know you need a desktop Windows PC in
order to extract the cab files", which isn't the case Wink)

Cheers - Neil
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:43 am
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Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:27:29 +0100, "Tony A."
> <tony72NNOOSSPPAAMM.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
>> [...]
>>> No, usually the cab files will simply be extracted and installed
>>> when tapped in the pocket PC. It's .exe or .msi installers
designed
>>> for desktop PCs which can't be run directlty on the device - cab
is
>>> fine.
>>
>> 's what I said Wink
>>
>
>
> Nope - you said " I know you need a desktop Windows PC in
> order to extract the cab files", which isn't the case Wink)

Only if you take half the sentence - I said you need a desktop Windows
PC to extract the cab files *from inside the .exe or .msi installers*
( == "desktop installers") which to quote myself "actually contain cab
files" for each architecture Wink
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 9:41 am
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On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 13:43:18 +0100, "Tony A."
<tony72NNOOSSPPAAMM.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 00:27:29 +0100, "Tony A."
>> <tony72NNOOSSPPAAMM.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media] wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> No, usually the cab files will simply be extracted and installed
>>>> when tapped in the pocket PC. It's .exe or .msi installers
>designed
>>>> for desktop PCs which can't be run directlty on the device - cab
>is
>>>> fine.
>>>
>>> 's what I said Wink
>>>
>>
>>
>> Nope - you said " I know you need a desktop Windows PC in
>> order to extract the cab files", which isn't the case Wink)
>
>Only if you take half the sentence - I said you need a desktop Windows
>PC to extract the cab files *from inside the .exe or .msi installers*
>( == "desktop installers") which to quote myself "actually contain cab
>files" for each architecture Wink


Oh, OK fair enough Wink

Cheers - Neil
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 10:34 am
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thanks to all responding..I found Holger Schmidt's Free CAB's site
thanks to one of the links in this group.....
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