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Since: Apr 12, 2004 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:04 am
Post subject: changing a registration code in a palm app Archived from groups: comp>sys>palmtops>pilot (more info?)
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I was wondering about changing the registration code and what software
you use to do it. I want to open up a palm app, edit the registration
code and replace it with my own. I saw the instructions, the software
you use on the internet but do you think I could find it.
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Since: Jun 23, 2003 Posts: 951
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:23 pm
Post subject: Re: changing a registration code in a palm app [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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biggoolies <darcyjulie.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I was wondering about changing the registration code and what software
> you use to do it. I want to open up a palm app, edit the registration
> code and replace it with my own. I saw the instructions, the software
> you use on the internet but do you think I could find it.
Let me get this straight -- you've inherited/bought a device that came with
a bunch of software, but want to register some of it in your own name (to
get support, future upgrades, and to support the people who made it), but
you don't want to zap the whole device back to scratch and reinstall
everything. Fair enough.
What you need is a resource editor that can delete the registry key for that
piece of software, and then install the software again, after which you
should get back the requester for a registration key. Often (but not
always), the key is saved in either "Unsaved Preferences" or "Saved
Preferences" -- along with a lot of other keys. If you blow these files
away, you may have to re-register other software and change settings back to
where you had them, which might be time consuming. Thus, a resource editor
running on the Palm that lets you identify the various piece of data in the
preferences file, and which lets you delete all data pertaining to one app
is probably what you need.
Of course, you may be lucky, and the app saves the key in its own PDB -- in
which case deleting it would be enough -- but don't count on it.
Developers: Please provide the means to unregister software too. This can
be useful both in the above scenario, as well as when beaming software to
others. If unregistering also removes the beam lock, there's more ways to
spread your software around. That's a good thing, right?
Regards,
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Since: Jun 23, 2003 Posts: 951
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:23 pm
Post subject: Re: changing a registration code in a palm app [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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biggoolies <darcyjulie.RemoveThis@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> I was wondering about changing the registration code and what software
> you use to do it. I want to open up a palm app, edit the registration
> code and replace it with my own. I saw the instructions, the software
> you use on the internet but do you think I could find it.
Let me get this straight -- you've inherited/bought a device that came with
a bunch of software, but want to register some of it in your own name (to
get support, future upgrades, and to support the people who made it), but
you don't want to zap the whole device back to scratch and reinstall
everything. Fair enough.
What you need is a resource editor that can delete the registry key for that
piece of software, and then install the software again, after which you
should get back the requester for a registration key. Often (but not
always), the key is saved in either "Unsaved Preferences" or "Saved
Preferences" -- along with a lot of other keys. If you blow these files
away, you may have to re-register other software and change settings back to
where you had them, which might be time consuming. Thus, a resource editor
running on the Palm that lets you identify the various piece of data in the
preferences file, and which lets you delete all data pertaining to one app
is probably what you need.
Of course, you may be lucky, and the app saves the key in its own PDB -- in
which case deleting it would be enough -- but don't count on it.
Developers: Please provide the means to unregister software too. This can
be useful both in the above scenario, as well as when beaming software to
others. If unregistering also removes the beam lock, there's more ways to
spread your software around. That's a good thing, right?
Regards,
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Since: Jul 13, 2003 Posts: 62
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:18 pm
Post subject: Re: changing a registration code in a palm app [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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biggoolies wrote:
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> I was wondering about changing the registration code and what software
> you use to do it. I want to open up a palm app, edit the registration
> code and replace it with my own. I saw the instructions, the software
> you use on the internet but do you think I could find it.
If I understand you correctly, you're trying to take software sold to
someone else and use it as your own.
That'd be piracy.
Good luck.
Larry |
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Since: Jul 13, 2003 Posts: 62
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:18 pm
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biggoolies wrote:
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> I was wondering about changing the registration code and what software
> you use to do it. I want to open up a palm app, edit the registration
> code and replace it with my own. I saw the instructions, the software
> you use on the internet but do you think I could find it.
If I understand you correctly, you're trying to take software sold to
someone else and use it as your own.
That'd be piracy.
Good luck.
Larry |
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Since: Jan 16, 2004 Posts: 744
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:37 pm
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Since: Jan 16, 2004 Posts: 744
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 3:37 pm
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Since: Apr 12, 2004 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:44 am
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Lawrence Glasser <lglasser.DeleteThis@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:<407AF9CF.25AC1157.DeleteThis@spamcop.net>...
> biggoolies wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering about changing the registration code and what software
> > you use to do it. I want to open up a palm app, edit the registration
> > code and replace it with my own. I saw the instructions, the software
> > you use on the internet but do you think I could find it.
>
> If I understand you correctly, you're trying to take software sold to
> someone else and use it as your own.
>
> That'd be piracy.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Larry
Oh yeah, I guess it is. I won't be doing that then. |
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Since: Apr 12, 2004 Posts: 14
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:44 am
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Lawrence Glasser <lglasser RemoveThis @spamcop.net> wrote in message news:<407AF9CF.25AC1157 RemoveThis @spamcop.net>...
> biggoolies wrote:
> >
> > I was wondering about changing the registration code and what software
> > you use to do it. I want to open up a palm app, edit the registration
> > code and replace it with my own. I saw the instructions, the software
> > you use on the internet but do you think I could find it.
>
> If I understand you correctly, you're trying to take software sold to
> someone else and use it as your own.
>
> That'd be piracy.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Larry
Oh yeah, I guess it is. I won't be doing that then. |
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Since: Jul 20, 2003 Posts: 110
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:10 pm
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At 2004-04-12T20:18:46Z, Lawrence Glasser <lglasser DeleteThis @spamcop.net> writes:
> If I understand you correctly, you're trying to take software sold to
> someone else and use it as your own.
One caveat: if someone sold him their only copy of the software, then he is
probably on strong legal and moral ground to do this, end-user license
agreements and other such nonsense aside.
Alternatively, in many ways, a married couple is considered to be a single
entity. If I buy a program, I think you could make the legal argument that
my wife is also allowed to use it - once again, EULAs and other non-binding
agreements aside.
Finally, I would find it hard to believe that someone who legally changes
their name would be violating any laws by modifying software they'd
purchased to reflect their new identity.
I don't think that any of these situations describe what the poster was
trying to do, but I can imagine legitimate reasons for wanting to change the
name that a copy of software is registered to.
- --
Kirk Strauser
The Strauser Group
Open. Solutions. Simple.
http://www.strausergroup.com/
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Since: Jul 20, 2003 Posts: 110
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:10 pm
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At 2004-04-12T20:18:46Z, Lawrence Glasser <lglasser.DeleteThis@spamcop.net> writes:
> If I understand you correctly, you're trying to take software sold to
> someone else and use it as your own.
One caveat: if someone sold him their only copy of the software, then he is
probably on strong legal and moral ground to do this, end-user license
agreements and other such nonsense aside.
Alternatively, in many ways, a married couple is considered to be a single
entity. If I buy a program, I think you could make the legal argument that
my wife is also allowed to use it - once again, EULAs and other non-binding
agreements aside.
Finally, I would find it hard to believe that someone who legally changes
their name would be violating any laws by modifying software they'd
purchased to reflect their new identity.
I don't think that any of these situations describe what the poster was
trying to do, but I can imagine legitimate reasons for wanting to change the
name that a copy of software is registered to.
- --
Kirk Strauser
The Strauser Group
Open. Solutions. Simple.
http://www.strausergroup.com/
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Since: Jul 11, 2003 Posts: 1127
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:47 pm
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In article <87fzb6v0n4.fsf DeleteThis @strauser.com>, Kirk Strauser
<kirk DeleteThis @strauser.com> wrote:
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> At 2004-04-12T20:18:46Z, Lawrence Glasser <lglasser DeleteThis @spamcop.net> writes:
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> > If I understand you correctly, you're trying to take software sold to
> > someone else and use it as your own.
>
> One caveat: if someone sold him their only copy of the software, then he is
> probably on strong legal and moral ground to do this, end-user license
> agreements and other such nonsense aside.
>
> Alternatively, in many ways, a married couple is considered to be a single
> entity. If I buy a program, I think you could make the legal argument that
> my wife is also allowed to use it - once again, EULAs and other non-binding
> agreements aside.
>
> Finally, I would find it hard to believe that someone who legally changes
> their name would be violating any laws by modifying software they'd
> purchased to reflect their new identity.
>
> I don't think that any of these situations describe what the poster was
> trying to do, but I can imagine legitimate reasons for wanting to change the
> name that a copy of software is registered to.
> =2D --=20
> Kirk Strauser
> The Strauser Group
> Open. Solutions. Simple.
Hehe. Illegalities aside, it would be legal! |
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Since: Jul 11, 2003 Posts: 1127
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:47 pm
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In article <87fzb6v0n4.fsf DeleteThis @strauser.com>, Kirk Strauser
<kirk DeleteThis @strauser.com> wrote:
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> At 2004-04-12T20:18:46Z, Lawrence Glasser <lglasser DeleteThis @spamcop.net> writes:
>
> > If I understand you correctly, you're trying to take software sold to
> > someone else and use it as your own.
>
> One caveat: if someone sold him their only copy of the software, then he is
> probably on strong legal and moral ground to do this, end-user license
> agreements and other such nonsense aside.
>
> Alternatively, in many ways, a married couple is considered to be a single
> entity. If I buy a program, I think you could make the legal argument that
> my wife is also allowed to use it - once again, EULAs and other non-binding
> agreements aside.
>
> Finally, I would find it hard to believe that someone who legally changes
> their name would be violating any laws by modifying software they'd
> purchased to reflect their new identity.
>
> I don't think that any of these situations describe what the poster was
> trying to do, but I can imagine legitimate reasons for wanting to change the
> name that a copy of software is registered to.
> =2D --=20
> Kirk Strauser
> The Strauser Group
> Open. Solutions. Simple.
Hehe. Illegalities aside, it would be legal! |
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Since: Jul 25, 2003 Posts: 69
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:11 pm
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In article <87fzb6v0n4.fsf DeleteThis @strauser.com>, Kirk Strauser
<kirk DeleteThis @strauser.com> wrote:
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> At 2004-04-12T20:18:46Z, Lawrence Glasser <lglasser DeleteThis @spamcop.net> writes:
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> > If I understand you correctly, you're trying to take software sold to
> > someone else and use it as your own.
>
> One caveat: if someone sold him their only copy of the software, then he is
> probably on strong legal and moral ground to do this, end-user license
> agreements and other such nonsense aside.
In that case, a note to the software's distributor would be in order. I'm
pretty sure most of them would accomodate the situation.
As for the married couple argument, most programs are "licensed for use on
a single device", not necessarily by a specific person. |
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Since: Jul 25, 2003 Posts: 69
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:11 pm
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In article <87fzb6v0n4.fsf.TakeThisOut@strauser.com>, Kirk Strauser
<kirk.TakeThisOut@strauser.com> wrote:
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> At 2004-04-12T20:18:46Z, Lawrence Glasser <lglasser.TakeThisOut@spamcop.net> writes:
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> > If I understand you correctly, you're trying to take software sold to
> > someone else and use it as your own.
>
> One caveat: if someone sold him their only copy of the software, then he is
> probably on strong legal and moral ground to do this, end-user license
> agreements and other such nonsense aside.
In that case, a note to the software's distributor would be in order. I'm
pretty sure most of them would accomodate the situation.
As for the married couple argument, most programs are "licensed for use on
a single device", not necessarily by a specific person. |
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