Saw my first WM 6.5 device today

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec RemoveThis @AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
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> At 27 Oct 2009 22:37:27 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:
> > I saw my first WM 6.5 device today and under Settings->Connections the
> > option to use "Bluetooth" for an Internet connection was missing. All
> it
> > had was "Cellular Line" and "Hayes Compatible."
> >
> > After thinking about it I wonder what would have happened if I'd tried
> > "Hayes Compatible" in place of "Bluetooth."
>
>
> My guess is nothing, unless the device happened to have a Hayes-
> compatible modem installed! (I haven't used that option since creating
> dialup connections on my Audiovox Maestro PPC 2002 with a CompactFlash-
> card 56k modem installed!)
>
> I suspect this WM6.5 device you saw is limited to BT PAN connections.

True. I looked at the list of BT Profiles on that device and it listed BT
DUN but it did not list BT PAN.

I'm still curious as to know why they removed the ability to use BT DUN from
another phone when a 211 iPAQ can use either BT DUN or BT PAN for it's
Internet.

> I'm still curious as to know why they removed the ability to use BT
> DUN from another phone when a 211 iPAQ can use either BT DUN or BT PAN
> for it's Internet.

Well, the iPAQ 211 has, as with all HP phones / standalone PDA's, a much
more capable BT stack - that is, Widcomm (Broadcom) - as opposed to the
MS BT stack coming with all HTC models.


Unfortunately, it seems the MS BT stack, while, as of version 6.1, it
does have a selectable Bluetooth option when setting up a connection,
results in trying to dial the passed pseudo-number (e.g., *99***#1) as a
non-pseudo number when using a GPRS / 3G modem via Bluetooth. That is,
the BT dial-up is completely messed up. Which isn't really some to
wonder about - after all, very few people would want to use Bluetooth
from a device that already has a GSM phone inside.

At least this is what I've encountered on my HTC Universal runnning a
cooked ROM version (with the latest Tomal version; see http://forum.xda-
developers.com/showthread.php?t=454906 ). I've also tested this on the
HTC Wizard with mfrazzz's XDA Mobile 6 Release 3 (see http://forum.xda-
developers.com/showpost.php?p=2077663&postcount=9 ); however,it
completely lacks the BT DUN client.

Unfortunately, I couldn't test this on more machines (they're either at
home or loaned to some of my colleagues). Nevertheless, based on what I
saw, it seems not even the MS BT stack coming with 6.1 is capable of
seamless packet-based (non-dial up) connections via BT when operating in
client mode (as opposed to the server mode).

Also see my dedicated articles on BT dial-up (at e.g. http://forum.xda-
developers.com/showthread.php?t=407563 ); note that s this problem's
very rarely asked upon, I haven't tested it either for my roundup.




"Roger 2008" <rwpcs.DeleteThis@att.net> wrote in
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>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec.DeleteThis@AnoOspamL.com> wrote in message
> news:8zSFm.76506$lR3.64699@newsfe25.iad...
>> At 27 Oct 2009 22:37:27 -0600 Roger 2008 wrote:
>> > I saw my first WM 6.5 device today and under Settings->Connections
>> > the option to use "Bluetooth" for an Internet connection was
>> > missing. All
>> it
>> > had was "Cellular Line" and "Hayes Compatible."
>> >
>> > After thinking about it I wonder what would have happened if I'd
>> > tried "Hayes Compatible" in place of "Bluetooth."
>>
>>
>> My guess is nothing, unless the device happened to have a Hayes-
>> compatible modem installed! (I haven't used that option since
>> creating dialup connections on my Audiovox Maestro PPC 2002 with a
>> CompactFlash- card 56k modem installed!)
>>
>> I suspect this WM6.5 device you saw is limited to BT PAN connections.
>
> True. I looked at the list of BT Profiles on that device and it
> listed BT DUN but it did not list BT PAN.
>
> I'm still curious as to know why they removed the ability to use BT
> DUN from another phone when a 211 iPAQ can use either BT DUN or BT PAN
> for it's Internet.
>
>