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Jeffrey I. Gordon

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 4:37 pm
Post subject: Tungsten T problem
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OK... so I've had my "T" for awhile (was hooked the moment I got the
fold out, life-size ad in the mail).

But about 4 months ago, I found that I could no longer do a "find"
without crashing the machine. (It APPEARS to almost do it and then
softboots itself halfway through the search.)

Palm help was no such thing. They told me to do a complete backup
(which I did) and then hard-reset to wipe all data and start from
scratch.

OK.... so I do this (takes forever-and-a-day) and then try a "find". It
works. Woo hoo. But the moment I restore from backup. Crashing again.

Thus, I know that there's something on the machine that's making it
crash. But how do I find it? I went through ALL of the calendar and
address data to make sure there weren't any funky characters. Are there
apps that are possible culprits?

Thanks for any ideas!

~Jeff

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Jeffrey I. Gordon

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 4:37 pm
Post subject: Tungsten T problem
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OK... so I've had my "T" for awhile (was hooked the moment I got the
fold out, life-size ad in the mail).

But about 4 months ago, I found that I could no longer do a "find"
without crashing the machine. (It APPEARS to almost do it and then
softboots itself halfway through the search.)

Palm help was no such thing. They told me to do a complete backup
(which I did) and then hard-reset to wipe all data and start from
scratch.

OK.... so I do this (takes forever-and-a-day) and then try a "find". It
works. Woo hoo. But the moment I restore from backup. Crashing again.

Thus, I know that there's something on the machine that's making it
crash. But how do I find it? I went through ALL of the calendar and
address data to make sure there weren't any funky characters. Are there
apps that are possible culprits?

Thanks for any ideas!

~Jeff

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www.applespec.com
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Rattlehead

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Since: Jul 03, 2003
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 6:34 am
Post subject: Re: Tungsten T problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Perhaps it's a third party app causing the problem.
Try just restoring your PIM data. Test "find".
Then go back and add in the third party apps and
data bases, one at a time testing the find app, to
see where the offender is.

It could be an app that you added that has the feature
of being "find" friendly.

RH



"Jeffrey I. Gordon" <jeff.TakeThisOut@jeffreygordon.net> wrote in message
news:8c5f07e43bbf2d549195b8de2d6a5248@news.meganetnews.com...
> OK... so I've had my "T" for awhile (was hooked the moment I got the
> fold out, life-size ad in the mail).
>
> But about 4 months ago, I found that I could no longer do a "find"
> without crashing the machine. (It APPEARS to almost do it and then
> softboots itself halfway through the search.)
>
> Palm help was no such thing. They told me to do a complete backup
> (which I did) and then hard-reset to wipe all data and start from
> scratch.
>
> OK.... so I do this (takes forever-and-a-day) and then try a "find". It
> works. Woo hoo. But the moment I restore from backup. Crashing again.
>
> Thus, I know that there's something on the machine that's making it
> crash. But how do I find it? I went through ALL of the calendar and
> address data to make sure there weren't any funky characters. Are there
> apps that are possible culprits?
>
> Thanks for any ideas!
>
> ~Jeff
>
> --
> Download the new AppleSpec Database (r.1/03)
> www.applespec.com
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Rattlehead

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 6:34 am
Post subject: Re: Tungsten T problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Perhaps it's a third party app causing the problem.
Try just restoring your PIM data. Test "find".
Then go back and add in the third party apps and
data bases, one at a time testing the find app, to
see where the offender is.

It could be an app that you added that has the feature
of being "find" friendly.

RH



"Jeffrey I. Gordon" <jeff DeleteThis @jeffreygordon.net> wrote in message
news:8c5f07e43bbf2d549195b8de2d6a5248@news.meganetnews.com...
> OK... so I've had my "T" for awhile (was hooked the moment I got the
> fold out, life-size ad in the mail).
>
> But about 4 months ago, I found that I could no longer do a "find"
> without crashing the machine. (It APPEARS to almost do it and then
> softboots itself halfway through the search.)
>
> Palm help was no such thing. They told me to do a complete backup
> (which I did) and then hard-reset to wipe all data and start from
> scratch.
>
> OK.... so I do this (takes forever-and-a-day) and then try a "find". It
> works. Woo hoo. But the moment I restore from backup. Crashing again.
>
> Thus, I know that there's something on the machine that's making it
> crash. But how do I find it? I went through ALL of the calendar and
> address data to make sure there weren't any funky characters. Are there
> apps that are possible culprits?
>
> Thanks for any ideas!
>
> ~Jeff
>
> --
> Download the new AppleSpec Database (r.1/03)
> www.applespec.com
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Peter Jaspers-Fayer

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:57 am
Post subject: Re: Tungsten T problem [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Jeffrey I. Gordon typed, on 05-Jul-2003 5:37 pm:

> But about 4 months ago, I found that I could no longer do a "find"
> without crashing the machine. (It APPEARS to almost do it and then
> softboots itself halfway through the search.)

I was going to suggest "FindTester" (http://www.flashplug.de), but
it crashes on my T|T, so now I'm looking for a better one myself.
Does anyone know of a good rock-solid program for testing "find"?

However, I can contribute this:
You can get to the culprit faster (than clearing out and re-adding
one at a time) using a binary search:

Copy 1/2 of your programs back, and test.
If crash, remove 1/2 of that set, and retest
If success, add 1/2 of the untested set, and retest.

Even if you have 100 apps, this only requires around 8 tests,
worst case. Yes, you will have to do some record-keeping to work
this, but if you have many apps installed, it's faster.
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/PJF Peter Jaspers-Fayer <pjf A T uoguelph D O T ca> spambait.TakeThisOut@127.0.0.1
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Peter Jaspers-Fayer

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2003 7:57 am
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Jeffrey I. Gordon typed, on 05-Jul-2003 5:37 pm:

> But about 4 months ago, I found that I could no longer do a "find"
> without crashing the machine. (It APPEARS to almost do it and then
> softboots itself halfway through the search.)

I was going to suggest "FindTester" (http://www.flashplug.de), but
it crashes on my T|T, so now I'm looking for a better one myself.
Does anyone know of a good rock-solid program for testing "find"?

However, I can contribute this:
You can get to the culprit faster (than clearing out and re-adding
one at a time) using a binary search:

Copy 1/2 of your programs back, and test.
If crash, remove 1/2 of that set, and retest
If success, add 1/2 of the untested set, and retest.

Even if you have 100 apps, this only requires around 8 tests,
worst case. Yes, you will have to do some record-keeping to work
this, but if you have many apps installed, it's faster.
--
/PJF Peter Jaspers-Fayer <pjf A T uoguelph D O T ca> spambait.TakeThisOut@127.0.0.1
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