Owner info

<anonymous DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I have a situation where I need to determine when the
> Owner information was changed. I have spoken with Dell and
> they don't know. It seems to me that the file is
> maintained somewhere it should hafve a date and timestamp
> on it. I can not find this information anywhere. Microsost
> doesn't want to take to me because the pcoket pc2000 was
> installed by Dell and Dell can not tell me what the
> location of the fild is that houses the owner information.
>
> Here is the scenario, I work for a sheriff's office. We
> have Axims in the pods for the deputies to access
> information on the inmates from our CMS system. One of
> these Axims had the owner information changed and an
> obscene message was put into the owner info notes and
> displays when the system is turned on. The officials that
> inpsect the facility for medical accreidtaion turned the
> unit on and we now face no longer being accredited by the
> federal association . The deputies are constantly playing
> with the equipment and we need to make an example of the
> one that pulled this trick. If I can determine the date
> and time this owner information was changed we can
> pinpoint the deputy that was responsible. Is there anyone
> that knows where to find this information?? PLEASE


Nothing more important to do?

The failing is as much your lack of forethought and security, whoever did
this should not have done it but are you going to make an example of your
failings too? Be a man, set an example, sack yourself for having inadequate
security provisions.

I'm afraid there is no obvious way to find this out as it is simply a
registry entry and not a file that stores a change date.

It can be found in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Owner

--
Carlo Ma. Guerrero
Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices
<anonymous RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:16cfc01c417fc$6ba43ea0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> I have a situation where I need to determine when the
> Owner information was changed. I have spoken with Dell and
> they don't know. It seems to me that the file is
> maintained somewhere it should hafve a date and timestamp
> on it. I can not find this information anywhere. Microsost
> doesn't want to take to me because the pcoket pc2000 was
> installed by Dell and Dell can not tell me what the
> location of the fild is that houses the owner information.
>
> Here is the scenario, I work for a sheriff's office. We
> have Axims in the pods for the deputies to access
> information on the inmates from our CMS system. One of
> these Axims had the owner information changed and an
> obscene message was put into the owner info notes and
> displays when the system is turned on. The officials that
> inpsect the facility for medical accreidtaion turned the
> unit on and we now face no longer being accredited by the
> federal association . The deputies are constantly playing
> with the equipment and we need to make an example of the
> one that pulled this trick. If I can determine the date
> and time this owner information was changed we can
> pinpoint the deputy that was responsible. Is there anyone
> that knows where to find this information?? PLEASE

But isn't the registry itself stored as file? I don't know what the name of
the file is.

"Carlo Ma. Guerrero" <ppcsurfr.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u7AyrHAGEHA.628@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I'm afraid there is no obvious way to find this out as it is simply a
> registry entry and not a file that stores a change date.
>
> It can be found in HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Owner
>
> --
> Carlo Ma. Guerrero
> Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices
> <anonymous.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:16cfc01c417fc$6ba43ea0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> > I have a situation where I need to determine when the
> > Owner information was changed. I have spoken with Dell and
> > they don't know. It seems to me that the file is
> > maintained somewhere it should hafve a date and timestamp
> > on it. I can not find this information anywhere. Microsost
> > doesn't want to take to me because the pcoket pc2000 was
> > installed by Dell and Dell can not tell me what the
> > location of the fild is that houses the owner information.
> >
> > Here is the scenario, I work for a sheriff's office. We
> > have Axims in the pods for the deputies to access
> > information on the inmates from our CMS system. One of
> > these Axims had the owner information changed and an
> > obscene message was put into the owner info notes and
> > displays when the system is turned on. The officials that
> > inpsect the facility for medical accreidtaion turned the
> > unit on and we now face no longer being accredited by the
> > federal association . The deputies are constantly playing
> > with the equipment and we need to make an example of the
> > one that pulled this trick. If I can determine the date
> > and time this owner information was changed we can
> > pinpoint the deputy that was responsible. Is there anyone
> > that knows where to find this information?? PLEASE
>
>

On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:06:50 -0500, Stefan wrote:

> But isn't the registry itself stored as file? I don't know what the name of
> the file is.

That would only contain the date and time the registry was last
modified/saved, e.g. changing a setting, adding/removing software etc.,
not a complete log of all registry modifications.


--
Michael Turner
Email (ROT13)
zvxr.gheare1963.RemoveThis@ivetva.arg

That's true. Better than nothing, but not so accurate.

"michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963.RemoveThis@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
news:pan.2004.04.01.17.21.07.3000@ivetva.arg...
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 12:06:50 -0500, Stefan wrote:
>
> > But isn't the registry itself stored as file? I don't know what the name
of
> > the file is.
>
> That would only contain the date and time the registry was last
> modified/saved, e.g. changing a setting, adding/removing software etc.,
> not a complete log of all registry modifications.
>
>
> --
> Michael Turner
> Email (ROT13)
> zvxr.gheare1963.RemoveThis@ivetva.arg

I think the best thing we can do here is improve the security of your
devices so that there can only be one administrator who can setup these
devices... the rest of the force are merely users...

This is the best solution so far which I think anyone here can offer.

As for security or setting it to strictly for "work"... you can contact
www.softspb.com and see spb kiosk... to give you an idea on how a Pocket PC
can be limited for pure work.

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/kioskengine/?en

I hope this helps.

--
Carlo Ma. Guerrero
Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices
<anonymous DeleteThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:16cfc01c417fc$6ba43ea0$a501280a@phx.gbl...
> I have a situation where I need to determine when the
> Owner information was changed. I have spoken with Dell and
> they don't know. It seems to me that the file is
> maintained somewhere it should hafve a date and timestamp
> on it. I can not find this information anywhere. Microsost
> doesn't want to take to me because the pcoket pc2000 was
> installed by Dell and Dell can not tell me what the
> location of the fild is that houses the owner information.
>
> Here is the scenario, I work for a sheriff's office. We
> have Axims in the pods for the deputies to access
> information on the inmates from our CMS system. One of
> these Axims had the owner information changed and an
> obscene message was put into the owner info notes and
> displays when the system is turned on. The officials that
> inpsect the facility for medical accreidtaion turned the
> unit on and we now face no longer being accredited by the
> federal association . The deputies are constantly playing
> with the equipment and we need to make an example of the
> one that pulled this trick. If I can determine the date
> and time this owner information was changed we can
> pinpoint the deputy that was responsible. Is there anyone
> that knows where to find this information?? PLEASE

<anonymous.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> Here is the scenario, I work for a sheriff's office. We
> have Axims in the pods for the deputies to access
> information on the inmates from our CMS system. One of
> these Axims had the owner information changed and an
> obscene message was put into the owner info notes and
> displays when the system is turned on. The officials that
> inpsect the facility for medical accreidtaion turned the
> unit on and we now face no longer being accredited by the
> federal association . The deputies are constantly playing
> with the equipment and we need to make an example of the
> one that pulled this trick. If I can determine the date
> and time this owner information was changed we can
> pinpoint the deputy that was responsible. Is there anyone
> that knows where to find this information?? PLEASE

Typical of today's society in many countries. Something has gone wrong. Find
a scapegoat and make an example out of them.
People nowadays are pointing fingers and wanting who's to blame. Just get on
with the job and put it down to experience. Perhaps as Carlo said, learn
from it, improve your security and try and make it not happen again.

IMO, oh dear, it's an obscene message. So what.

PAM.

I guess by the same token, although I agree that it probably isn't worth
spending time on as there doesn't seem to be an easy way to find out (if
even possible), why should someone be allowed to get away with something
that is obviously wrong?

I mean, putting an obscene message on a PDA? Seems pretty childish to me
anyway, and if you let people get away with stuff, they'll just keep pushing
the boundries until they reach the point where they are actually punished,
making anything lesser than this seem like it is OK to do.

I may be getting on my soap box here, and don't want to start a flame war or
anything, but if people are actually punished for things they do wrong, then
they're less likely to do things wrong again. Let them get away with it, or
give them a stupidly small punishment for the crime they have commited, and
we get to the point we are unfortunately at today (especially in the UK)
where often it seems like crime does pay, and criminals or state spongers
are better off than the rest of us.

Sorry, rant over now.

Paul W.

"PAM." <Junkmail.TakeThisOut@Fishnchips.com> wrote in message
news:b%%ac.2163$d%6.53098@news.xtra.co.nz...
> <anonymous.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > Here is the scenario, I work for a sheriff's office. We
> > have Axims in the pods for the deputies to access
> > information on the inmates from our CMS system. One of
> > these Axims had the owner information changed and an
> > obscene message was put into the owner info notes and
> > displays when the system is turned on. The officials that
> > inpsect the facility for medical accreidtaion turned the
> > unit on and we now face no longer being accredited by the
> > federal association . The deputies are constantly playing
> > with the equipment and we need to make an example of the
> > one that pulled this trick. If I can determine the date
> > and time this owner information was changed we can
> > pinpoint the deputy that was responsible. Is there anyone
> > that knows where to find this information?? PLEASE
>
> Typical of today's society in many countries. Something has gone wrong.
Find
> a scapegoat and make an example out of them.
> People nowadays are pointing fingers and wanting who's to blame. Just get
on
> with the job and put it down to experience. Perhaps as Carlo said, learn
> from it, improve your security and try and make it not happen again.
>
> IMO, oh dear, it's an obscene message. So what.
>
> PAM.
>
>

It's the first time this happened, how about a general memo among the whole
organisation (no pointing fingers) to say that this incident occurred, it
has caused the organisation difficulties- and tell them what the
implications are-, and that *future* incidents will be investigated and may
lead to disciplinary action.
It may have been stupid behaviour, but over-reaction is just as stupid.
Treat the people as adults. If you treat them as kids or animals (as he
seems to want to do) they will behave that way, and you only have himself to
blame.

The lack of security in the first place wasn't the fault of the person who
changed the message- it goes to the person responsible for the system, and
there was no mention of action against that person (the original poster
perhaps?) They are at least as responsible for not providing a secure
system. Start afresh, explain to everyone what has happened, and what will
happen in the future.



"Paul W" <ReplyTo.RemoveThis@Newsgroup.com> wrote in message
news:eAjDurIGEHA.1368@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> I guess by the same token, although I agree that it probably isn't worth
> spending time on as there doesn't seem to be an easy way to find out (if
> even possible), why should someone be allowed to get away with something
> that is obviously wrong?
>
> I mean, putting an obscene message on a PDA? Seems pretty childish to me
> anyway, and if you let people get away with stuff, they'll just keep
pushing
> the boundries until they reach the point where they are actually punished,
> making anything lesser than this seem like it is OK to do.
>
> I may be getting on my soap box here, and don't want to start a flame war
or
> anything, but if people are actually punished for things they do wrong,
then
> they're less likely to do things wrong again. Let them get away with it,
or
> give them a stupidly small punishment for the crime they have commited,
and
> we get to the point we are unfortunately at today (especially in the UK)
> where often it seems like crime does pay, and criminals or state spongers
> are better off than the rest of us.
>
> Sorry, rant over now.
>
> Paul W.
>
> "PAM." <Junkmail.RemoveThis@Fishnchips.com> wrote in message
> news:b%%ac.2163$d%6.53098@news.xtra.co.nz...
> > <anonymous.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > Here is the scenario, I work for a sheriff's office. We
> > > have Axims in the pods for the deputies to access
> > > information on the inmates from our CMS system. One of
> > > these Axims had the owner information changed and an
> > > obscene message was put into the owner info notes and
> > > displays when the system is turned on. The officials that
> > > inpsect the facility for medical accreidtaion turned the
> > > unit on and we now face no longer being accredited by the
> > > federal association . The deputies are constantly playing
> > > with the equipment and we need to make an example of the
> > > one that pulled this trick. If I can determine the date
> > > and time this owner information was changed we can
> > > pinpoint the deputy that was responsible. Is there anyone
> > > that knows where to find this information?? PLEASE
> >
> > Typical of today's society in many countries. Something has gone wrong.
> Find
> > a scapegoat and make an example out of them.
> > People nowadays are pointing fingers and wanting who's to blame. Just
get
> on
> > with the job and put it down to experience. Perhaps as Carlo said, learn
> > from it, improve your security and try and make it not happen again.
> >
> > IMO, oh dear, it's an obscene message. So what.
> >
> > PAM.
> >
> >
>
>

AlanS said:
> The lack of security in the first place wasn't the fault of the person who
> changed the message- it goes to the person responsible for the system, and
> there was no mention of action against that person (the original poster
> perhaps?) They are at least as responsible for not providing a secure
> system. Start afresh, explain to everyone what has happened, and what will
> happen in the future.

What the heck kind of logic is that? An employer provides an employee with a
tool necessary to do his/her job and it somehow becomes the employer's fault
when the tool is returned defaced? As if there is no expectation that the
employee should respect his employer's property. Thinking like yours is why
our society is so screwed up. Expecting an employee to respect the
employer's property shouldn't be a far-fetched idea. Even more so when it is
an employee of law enforcement. I've seen several posts in here ripping the
original poster for trying to find a way to hold responsible the jerk that
had no respect for tax-payer funded property. Shame on you all. Whoever did
it has no business having authority over people who may be charged with
similar crimes. He should be ferreted out and dismissed immediately. I am
apalled that anyone would/could defend this low-life or find reason to
berate this poster in his/her quest to make the culprit answer for his poor
judgment, and what is in most states, a violation of the law. It's no
different than if he had spray-painted those obscene words on a public
building. Why is it any less egregious that he did it to a dept.-owned PDA?
I hate to think someone like that has a badge and a gun. Again, shame on
you. Later...

Rick

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