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Marv

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:17 pm
Post subject: Dell x50v charging off the USB cable?
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My x50v appears to be charging off of the USB cable when connected to the
computer without the AC power adapter. It's a lot slower that with the power
adapter installed but it still happens. I'll go to bed at night with it
connected to the computer and the battery at 60% and when I get up in the
morning it's at 100%.

Has anybody else seen this or is this some strange fluke I'm seeing?
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NoNoBadDog!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:17 pm
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Don't believe in reading manuals, eh?

If you had bothered to even open the manual, you would have known that it is
by design.

Bobby

"Marv" <sailor.DeleteThis@midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8h4b0114r9vqe0v2rb90oi0ee6hsa917e5@4ax.com...
> My x50v appears to be charging off of the USB cable when connected to the
> computer without the AC power adapter. It's a lot slower that with the
> power
> adapter installed but it still happens. I'll go to bed at night with it
> connected to the computer and the battery at 60% and when I get up in the
> morning it's at 100%.
>
> Has anybody else seen this or is this some strange fluke I'm seeing?
>
>
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JJ

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:17 pm
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By the design, USB has 5 VDC in line. Certain devices like external hard
drives don't use it because they have their own power supplies. Mice
typically use it, because they need it. Other devices like PDAs can charge
off of it.

John

"Marv" <sailor.TakeThisOut@midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message
news:8h4b0114r9vqe0v2rb90oi0ee6hsa917e5@4ax.com...
> My x50v appears to be charging off of the USB cable when connected to the
> computer without the AC power adapter. It's a lot slower that with the
power
> adapter installed but it still happens. I'll go to bed at night with it
> connected to the computer and the battery at 60% and when I get up in the
> morning it's at 100%.
>
> Has anybody else seen this or is this some strange fluke I'm seeing?
>
>
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Nitram

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:39 am
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NoNoBadDog! wrote:
> Don't believe in reading manuals, eh?
>
> If you had bothered to even open the manual, you would have known
> that it is by design.
>
> Bobby

Hi Bobby,

The post is of interest, as it has transpired that many people are unable to
charge their X50s via USB due to it's above average power requirements.

HTH

Martin
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xTenn

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:39 am
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Reply to message from "Nitram" <martin.DeleteThis@scotland.org> (Sun, 06 Feb 2005 06:
39:07) about ""Re: Dell x50v charging off the USB cable?"":


> The post is of interest, as it has transpired that many people are
> unable to charge their X50s via USB due to it's above average power
> requirements.

I thought that such conditions were the reason behind the fast/slow setting
on the start/settis/usb charging page - in this case the x50 would be set
to "slow" , as in trickle charge.

Not the case?
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Marv

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:03 am
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Well, you're right, it was in the manual, page 26. I hadn't bothered to look
back at the manual after the first run throught it because I found it is almost
useless. (just like Bobby's smart ass attitude).

I hadn't been seeing the same thing happen at work because I have an unpowered
USB hub connected to my laptop and it as always plugged in using the cradle.

I guess it wouldn't hurt to read the book again to see what else I missed or am
screwing up!

>Don't believe in reading manuals, eh?
>
>If you had bothered to even open the manual, you would have known that it is
>by design.
>
>Bobby
>
>"Marv" <sailor DeleteThis @midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:8h4b0114r9vqe0v2rb90oi0ee6hsa917e5@4ax.com...
>> My x50v appears to be charging off of the USB cable when connected to the
>> computer without the AC power adapter. It's a lot slower that with the
>> power
>> adapter installed but it still happens. I'll go to bed at night with it
>> connected to the computer and the battery at 60% and when I get up in the
>> morning it's at 100%.
>>
>> Has anybody else seen this or is this some strange fluke I'm seeing?
>>
>>
>
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Elmo P. Shagnasty

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:03 am
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Doug Robbins

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:03 am
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Depends what you are charging from. My tablet PC does not really put out
enough to keep a rechargeable cordless mouse charged up. When I plug it
into a AC USB charger with 1.0 Amp output, the charging light on the mouse
charger really glows compared to it hardly lighting when connected to the
tablet.

Same thing would apply to a PDA.

--
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interested. Questions sent directly to me will only be answered on a paid
consulting basis.

Hope this helps,
Doug Robbins - Word MVP
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop DeleteThis @nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-DCE23A.09142206022005@text.usenetserver.com...
> At least the X50v does it without user intervention. My iPaq 4705
> required that (a) I read the manual, and (b) go into system settings and
> check the box for USB charging.
>
> I don't know why that wouldn't be enabled right out of the box...
>
>
>
> In article <t09c01ddc39b1jjs7cdvkvtvvm45r2h4hf DeleteThis @4ax.com>,
> Marv <sailor DeleteThis @midsouth.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, you're right, it was in the manual, page 26. I hadn't bothered to
>> look
>> back at the manual after the first run throught it because I found it is
>> almost
>> useless. (just like Bobby's smart ass attitude).
>>
>> I hadn't been seeing the same thing happen at work because I have an
>> unpowered
>> USB hub connected to my laptop and it as always plugged in using the
>> cradle.
>>
>> I guess it wouldn't hurt to read the book again to see what else I missed
>> or
>> am
>> screwing up!
>>
>> >Don't believe in reading manuals, eh?
>> >
>> >If you had bothered to even open the manual, you would have known that
>> >it is
>> >by design.
>> >
>> >Bobby
>> >
>> >"Marv" <sailor DeleteThis @midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >news:8h4b0114r9vqe0v2rb90oi0ee6hsa917e5@4ax.com...
>> >> My x50v appears to be charging off of the USB cable when connected to
>> >> the
>> >> computer without the AC power adapter. It's a lot slower that with
>> >> the
>> >> power
>> >> adapter installed but it still happens. I'll go to bed at night with
>> >> it
>> >> connected to the computer and the battery at 60% and when I get up in
>> >> the
>> >> morning it's at 100%.
>> >>
>> >> Has anybody else seen this or is this some strange fluke I'm seeing?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
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Nitram

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:08 am
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xTenn wrote:
> Reply to message from "Nitram" <martin RemoveThis @scotland.org> (Sun, 06 Feb
> 2005 06: 39:07) about ""Re: Dell x50v charging off the USB cable?"":
>
>
>> The post is of interest, as it has transpired that many people are
>> unable to charge their X50s via USB due to it's above average power
>> requirements.
>
> I thought that such conditions were the reason behind the fast/slow
> setting on the start/settis/usb charging page - in this case the x50
> would be set to "slow" , as in trickle charge.
>
> Not the case?

Take a look on the www.aximsite.com boards. There's been fair bit of
discussion about this. This is how people like me, who are still waiting for
X50vs pass the time...;>(

Martin
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Sven, MVP-Mobile Devices

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:31 am
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Note that the Dell is designed to charge from the USB port with the device
off, and not do so when the device is on. That is noticeable on the charge
light, which only glows when the Axim is connected and off.

--
Sven, MS-MVP Mobile Devices
"JJ" <jejsjac.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:IpSdnQv2rY0qVJjfRVn-ow@giganews.com...
> By the design, USB has 5 VDC in line. Certain devices like external hard
> drives don't use it because they have their own power supplies. Mice
> typically use it, because they need it. Other devices like PDAs can charge
> off of it.
>
> John
>
> "Marv" <sailor.DeleteThis@midsouth.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:8h4b0114r9vqe0v2rb90oi0ee6hsa917e5@4ax.com...
> > My x50v appears to be charging off of the USB cable when connected to
the
> > computer without the AC power adapter. It's a lot slower that with the
> power
> > adapter installed but it still happens. I'll go to bed at night with it
> > connected to the computer and the battery at 60% and when I get up in
the
> > morning it's at 100%.
> >
> > Has anybody else seen this or is this some strange fluke I'm seeing?
> >
> >
>
>
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:51 pm
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I think your PDA is switch off at night, is that correct ? The USB can
charge your PDA only when it's switched off.

Marv wrote:
> My x50v appears to be charging off of the USB cable when connected to
the
> computer without the AC power adapter. It's a lot slower that with
the power
> adapter installed but it still happens. I'll go to bed at night with
it
> connected to the computer and the battery at 60% and when I get up in
the
> morning it's at 100%.
>
> Has anybody else seen this or is this some strange fluke I'm seeing?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:11 pm
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What cable are you using ? What is the model of your PC ?

I read that you can't charge the PDA using the Dell Sync Cable with the
PDA switch on due to the wiring of the cable. If you are using other
cable, it would depend on the USB port on your PC.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:34 am
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>
> Marv wrote:
>> My x50v appears to be charging off of the USB cable when connected
>> to the computer without the AC power adapter. It's a lot slower
>> that with the power adapter installed but it still happens. I'll go
>> to bed at night with it connected to the computer and the battery at
>> 60% and when I get up in the morning it's at 100%.
>>
>> Has anybody else seen this or is this some strange fluke I'm seeing?

flahmeshess wrote:
> I think your PDA is switch off at night, is that correct ? The USB
> can charge your PDA only when it's switched off.

My X50v is a fairly recent model, and I can confirm that it will charge from
the USB cable even with the unit ON. I've never tried charging from less
than half charge however.

Martin
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:58 am
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Any logo or name on the cable ?
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 9:27 am
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flahmeshess wrote:
> What cable are you using ? What is the model of your PC ?
>
> I read that you can't charge the PDA using the Dell Sync Cable with
> the PDA switch on due to the wiring of the cable. If you are using
> other cable, it would depend on the USB port on your PC.

I'm using a USB cable I bought from Ebay. The PC is an el cheapo as
purchased by company IT department.

Is it possible Dell have made a change to the X50v units? At any rate, it
definitely charges with the unit on. In fact, becaue of that, I never switch
it off when it is connected.

Martin
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