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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 6:11 pm
Post subject: home router recommendation?
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Any recommendations for a non-wireless home router? My sister just got
cable Internet service from RoadRunner and I'm giving her my old iMac.
I'm not sure if the cable modem supplied by RoadRunner incorporates a
full-featured router or not. I suspect not but don't really know. If
not, I'd like to put a router in line between the modem and the iMac
for security reasons.
I've got a Linksys lying around, a BEFSR41, but I have read that they're
flakey and she's going to need something reliable (and inexpensive).
Apple's routers are too expensive for this purpose and she doesn't need
wireless anyway.
D-Link anyone?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 11:20 pm
Post subject: Re: home router recommendation? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In article <missinglink-CB3C7F.18112008072009 RemoveThis @news.cloud9.net>,
RobertB <missinglink RemoveThis @cloud9.net> wrote:
> Any recommendations for a non-wireless home router? My sister just got
Why non-wireless? Even if she doesn't have WiFi now, she might get it
later, or you might bring your MacBook with you when you visit. The
price difference is maybe $10, and there are even some wireless routers
that are less expensive than wired.
> cable Internet service from RoadRunner and I'm giving her my old iMac.
> I'm not sure if the cable modem supplied by RoadRunner incorporates a
> full-featured router or not. I suspect not but don't really know. If
> not, I'd like to put a router in line between the modem and the iMac
> for security reasons.
Cable modems usually are not routers, although Comcast supplies a combo
modem-router (Linksys WCG200, usually) if you purchase their Home
Networking option. Most of us recommend against this, though (Comcast
installs crippled firmware, and using a combo makes troubleshooting
harder).
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> I've got a Linksys lying around, a BEFSR41, but I have read that they're
> flakey and she's going to need something reliable (and inexpensive).
> Apple's routers are too expensive for this purpose and she doesn't need
> wireless anyway.
>
> D-Link anyone?
Pretty much any router you buy in an electronics store these days should
be fine. They're all pretty similar. You'll find kudos and complaints
about them all.
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Barry Margolin, barmar RemoveThis @alum.mit.edu
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:20 pm
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In article <4a576948$0$95549$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>,
Kevin McMurtrie <kevinmcm DeleteThis @sonic.net> wrote:
> Linksys isn't a Mac versus PC issue. Their hardware has very few
> features and is extremely slow. I bought one of their small-business
> router/firewall combos recently and it dropped packets above 1.5Mbps
> with nothing but NAT turned on. Turning on the firewall brought it to
> its knees. There were no business features on the router at all. It
> was just NAT, firewall, and port mapping.
I have a WRT54G and I've never had throughput problems with it. I
regularly get over 20 Mbps on speedtest web sites.
Maybe you had a bad box.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:20 pm
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In article <barmar-2A9156.16202010072009.RemoveThis@nothing.attdns.com>, Barry
Margolin <barmar.RemoveThis@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > Linksys isn't a Mac versus PC issue. Their hardware has very few
> > features and is extremely slow. I bought one of their small-business
> > router/firewall combos recently and it dropped packets above 1.5Mbps
> > with nothing but NAT turned on. Turning on the firewall brought it to
> > its knees. There were no business features on the router at all. It
> > was just NAT, firewall, and port mapping.
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> I have a WRT54G and I've never had throughput problems with it. I
> regularly get over 20 Mbps on speedtest web sites.
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> Maybe you had a bad box.
i've had a wrt54g for several years and it's rock solid, which is a lot
more than i can say for my airport express. there are a *lot* of
versions of the wrt54g and when they revised the hardware a few years
ago and ditched the open source firmware in favour of vxworks, it
became much worse.
i've also used linksys vpn endpoints with fewer problems than i did
with the d-link and netgear vpn endpoints. one thing i despised about
the d-link is that any change required a reboot, no matter how minor.
plus there was a spelling error in the ui - i could configure a 'prot'. |
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:54 pm
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In article <missinglink-C0E773.19235511072009 DeleteThis @news.cloud9.net>, RobertB
<missinglink DeleteThis @cloud9.net> wrote:
> > The other thing I can't stand about LinkSys routers is their firmware
> > seems to be sub-par. For instance, a friend of mine had to get rid of
> > his LinkSys a couple years ago because any time he connected via FTP to
> > outside servers, the router would hang.
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> Hmmm. Not good. I use FTP from time to time.
there is absolutely no problem with ftp and linksys routers. i've been
using linksys routers for close to a decade and have found them to be
among the most reliable of all of the routers i've tried, including
d-link, netgear, trendnet, zyxel, speedstream, actiontec and apple.
the problem his friend had could have been something other than the
router, especially since he neglects to mention *which* linksys router
(there are hundreds) or what firmware version. it's no different than
someone saying 'my neighbor bought a mac and it keeps crashing' and
avoiding all macs because of it.
plus, some linksys routers can run custom third party firmware which
can go *far* beyond what other brands offer.
there really isn't much difference in low end routers, and most use the
same chipsets anyway. they all have their own quirks and issues. |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:55 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:20 pm
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In article <110720091654315058%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
nospam <nospam.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <missinglink-C0E773.19235511072009.DeleteThis@news.cloud9.net>, RobertB
> <missinglink.DeleteThis@cloud9.net> wrote:
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> > > The other thing I can't stand about LinkSys routers is their firmware
> > > seems to be sub-par. For instance, a friend of mine had to get rid of
> > > his LinkSys a couple years ago because any time he connected via FTP to
> > > outside servers, the router would hang.
> >
> > Hmmm. Not good. I use FTP from time to time.
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> there is absolutely no problem with ftp and linksys routers. i've been
> using linksys routers for close to a decade and have found them to be
> among the most reliable of all of the routers i've tried, including
> d-link, netgear, trendnet, zyxel, speedstream, actiontec and apple.
>
> the problem his friend had could have been something other than the
> router, especially since he neglects to mention *which* linksys router
> (there are hundreds) or what firmware version. it's no different than
> someone saying 'my neighbor bought a mac and it keeps crashing' and
> avoiding all macs because of it.
>
> plus, some linksys routers can run custom third party firmware which
> can go *far* beyond what other brands offer.
>
> there really isn't much difference in low end routers, and most use the
> same chipsets anyway. they all have their own quirks and issues.
This thread is proving the point I made in my first response: for every
router manufacturer you'll find some people saying they're great, and
others with horror stories.
Linksys probably has the most complaints simply because they're the most
popular to begin with. So there are more users of them, and if their
quality is comparable to everyone else's it means there will be more
complaints just due to the numbers.
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Arlington, MA
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 2:46 am
Post subject: Re: home router recommendation? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:55:54 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <110720091654315058%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
> nospam <nospam RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> wrote:
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>> there really isn't much difference in low end routers, and most use
>> the same chipsets anyway. they all have their own quirks and issues.
>
> Just make sure not to buy a roto router.
This is my punishment for being a good guy!
My partner had to connect to work at this ungodly hour today, so, being a
good guy, I am here and awake (?) to give her some moral support. That pun
qualifies as immoral support 
Let it be known: I enjoyed the pun...but I have to ask - do you rhyme
"router" with "doubter" or "suitor"?
BTW, we have had this Linksys WRT54GS for 6 or 7 trouble-free years (maybe
more - memory fails), so I belong to Barry Margolin's kudos contingent and
thereby also agree with what nospam says just above.
The router has worked with previous PCs, with my Mac, and recently with
this PC, now that I have returned to the dark side.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 8:00 am
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:56 pm
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:00:03 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <cem67m7itnbj$.bhrdjxl16414.dlg@40tude.net>,
> "Gene E. Bloch" <not-me.TakeThisOut@other.invalid> wrote:
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>> Let it be known: I enjoyed the pun...but I have to ask - do you rhyme
>> "router" with "doubter" or "suitor"?
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> It depends on context; in the instant context, it should be obvious. <g>
>
> -- Michelle
What - you think I have a brain?
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