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Since: Feb 09, 2007 Posts: 9
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(Msg. 46) Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 3:17 pm
Post subject: Re: Deleting pictures on an SD card [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>sys>mac>system, others (more info?)
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William Mitchell wrote:
> Colin_D <nospam.RemoveThis@127.0.0.1> writes:
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>> Ron, read my post immediately before yours.
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>> Formatting in camera does NOT erase or delete the images; it only
>> rewrites the FAT table. The images remain. Computer formatting, as
>> you say, is somewhat unreliable, but if one does a standard FAT16 or
>> FAT32 full format it should be ok.
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> Did you read any of the posts other than yours?
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> Nobody gives a %%%% whether it removes the data from the card.
> Nobody here is working for the CIA. Nobody here has been taking
> pictures of themselves in bed with their wife's sister. They just
> want to be able to take more pictures.
>
What's up your nose then? The OP wanted to *delete* (his words). So,
it was apposite to consider that he might want to delete the images as
opposed to merely reformatting the card, although he didn't say so, one
way or the other.
Some posters appear to think that an in camera format erases the images,
which it does not. My posts were intended to be helpful to anyone who
may be hazy about the subject.
Maybe you should check your mood before you hit the keyboard.
Colin D.
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Since: Dec 13, 2003 Posts: 66
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(Msg. 47) Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:39 pm
Post subject: Re: Deleting pictures on an SD card [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <45cd5374$0$28153$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Phil Wheeler <w6tuh-ng7.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Colin_D wrote:
> > Ron Hunter wrote:
> >> Kiran wrote:
> >>> I wish to delete the pictures on my digital camera's SD card, which is
> >>> almost full. Is it best to do it withe camera controls or computer
> >>> controls? Thank you.
> >> If you wish to delete all the pictures, I suggest you make use of the
> >> camera's 'format' feature. This does the job quickly, and cleanly.
> >> Doing the deletion on a computer seems to give some users of some
> >> cameras a bad time. I often delete from the computer, with no
> >> problems on my Kodak cameras. Formatting on the computer is more
> >> likely to cause problems than just deleting files.
> >
> > Ron, read my post immediately before yours.
> >
> > Formatting in camera does NOT erase or delete the images; it only
> > rewrites the FAT table.
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> For most of us, it matters not. If you're a spy, well . . .
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> BTW .. what's your name again??
It should and does matter. Identity theft is a massive problem that
only gets worse when people don't question how data is stored or deleted.
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Since: Jul 09, 2006 Posts: 799
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(Msg. 48) Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 6:53 pm
Post subject: Re: Deleting pictures on an SD card [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <45cd52d9$0$28153$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Phil Wheeler <w6tuh-ng7.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
> William Mitchell wrote:
> > Colin_D <nospam.TakeThisOut@127.0.0.1> writes:
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> >> Ron, read my post immediately before yours.
> >>
> >> Formatting in camera does NOT erase or delete the images; it only
> >> rewrites the FAT table. The images remain. Computer formatting, as
> >> you say, is somewhat unreliable, but if one does a standard FAT16 or
> >> FAT32 full format it should be ok.
> >
> >Nobody here has been taking
> > pictures of themselves in bed with their wife's sister.
>
> Well--Are you certain about that? <grin>
>
Who told you lot about my wife's sister?
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Since: Jan 12, 2007 Posts: 201
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(Msg. 49) Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:24 am
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In article <y9dy7n6ofn6.fsf.DeleteThis@hotel.math.ufl.edu>,
William Mitchell <mitchell.DeleteThis@math.ufl.edu> wrote:
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>Nobody gives a %%%% whether it removes the data from the card.
>Nobody here is working for the CIA. Nobody here has been taking
>pictures of themselves in bed with their wife's sister.
Hey, speak for yourself. Well, technically it's not MY wife's
sister... uhh, honey, you're not reading Usenet are you?
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Since: Feb 11, 2007 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 50) Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:22 pm
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On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 09:40:36 -0700
"Just D" <no.TakeThisOut@spam.please> wrote:
> It's much easier to use some special tool rewriting the location
> occupied by these files with some random data. Even ancient Norton
> Tools were able to do that. Or you or anybody of your friend
> programmer can write this tool in coupe minutes using any computer
> language The algorithm is pretty simple - delete all original
> files, create one or many files depending on the maximum file size
> available for this file system, fill this file or files with some
> random info, finally delete this temporary file. Even if this file is
> restored it's worthless.
You are in a dimly-lit room surrounded by humming machines. It is
rather cold. A cypher-locked door is behind you. It is closed.
Before you is a white-board with this incantation scrawled across
it in faintly luminous blue marker:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
An old Unix greybeard steps out from behind one of the machines,
hands you a quarter, and says, "Here, kid. Go buy yourself a real
computer." Intoning "XYZZY", he vanishes.
With apologies to Crowther and Wood.
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Since: Feb 12, 2007 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 51) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Deleting pictures on an SD card [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Paul Allen wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 09:40:36 -0700
> "Just D" <no.RemoveThis@spam.please> wrote:
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>> It's much easier to use some special tool rewriting the location
>> occupied by these files with some random data.
....
> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
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> An old Unix greybeard steps out from behind one of the machines,
> hands you a quarter, and says, "Here, kid. Go buy yourself a real
> computer." Intoning "XYZZY", he vanishes
....just after he re-types the magic formula:
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
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Since: Jan 28, 2007 Posts: 126
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(Msg. 52) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:27 pm
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In article <090220070353386648%kiran@no.email>, Kiran <kiran DeleteThis @no.email>
wrote:
> I wish to delete the pictures on my digital camera's SD card, which is
> almost full. Is it best to do it withe camera controls or computer
> controls? Thank you.
Simple, but not secure: Just toss your pictures into Thrash, and then
select "Empty Thrash" from Finder's Finder menu. This will only delete
the directory entries, the actual files can be recovered (eg with File
Juicer, http://echoone.com/filejuicer/).
Or on the camera select Format card.
Simple and secure: As above, but select "Secure Empty Trash" from
Finder's Finder menu.
This will overwrite the actual data several times by invoking the unix
command srm (for secure remove, resides in /usr/bin/srm on your machine,
read the man page by typing man srm in Terminal if you are curious) -
this has been written for exactly this purpose in the best unix
tradition - solving one problem once and for all. If you want to take a
look at the source code: http://sourceforge.net/projects/srm.
No way to get the pictures back.
HTH
Marc
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Since: Jan 28, 2007 Posts: 126
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(Msg. 53) Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 6:31 pm
Post subject: Re: Deleting pictures on an SD card [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: comp>sys>mac>system (more info?)
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In article <1171311127.19626.0 RemoveThis @proxy01.news.clara.net>,
Garry Knight <garryknight RemoveThis @gmx.net> wrote:
> ...just after he re-types the magic formula:
> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda
Ehm - what is wrong with the spell srm (/usr/bin/srm)?
Made for this purpose. Readily available in Finder too as Secure Empty
Trash.
Marc
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