Leopard vs Ram

Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2007-06-30 11:38:10 -0500, Dudley Henriques <dhenriques.DeleteThis@rcn.com> said:
>
>> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
>> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
>> when it's available.
>> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of Ram
>> if this is done. I probably didn't look in the right place I'm sure
>> Anyone have any ideas on this, or a link with some information perhaps?
>> Dudley Henriques
>
> I doubt Leopard's RAM requirements will be substantially higher than
> Tiger. 1 GB is probably just fine for Leopard. Adding more RAM will
> increase efficiency with either OS version.
>
I agree. I think I'll probably throw in another gig for general
performance increase.
DH

On 2007-06-30 12:11:13 -0500, Dudley Henriques <dhenriques RemoveThis @rcn.com> said:

> Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2007-06-30 11:38:10 -0500, Dudley Henriques <dhenriques RemoveThis @rcn.com> said:
>>
>>> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
>>> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
>>> when it's available.
>>> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of Ram
>>> if this is done. I probably didn't look in the right place I'm sure
>>> Anyone have any ideas on this, or a link with some information perhaps?
>>> Dudley Henriques
>>
>> I doubt Leopard's RAM requirements will be substantially higher than
>> Tiger. 1 GB is probably just fine for Leopard. Adding more RAM will
>> increase efficiency with either OS version.
>>
> I agree. I think I'll probably throw in another gig for general
> performance increase.

Keep in mind that once you get over the 1 GB threshold, the performance
increase is less noticeable for light computing. You will most see the
performance increase when multiple applications are running
concurrently, and when running memory-hungry applications such as
Photoshop, iMovie, iDVD, or having lots of windows open in Safari or
Firefox, and so on.

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JR

Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2007-06-30 12:11:13 -0500, Dudley Henriques <dhenriques RemoveThis @rcn.com> said:
>
>> Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2007-06-30 11:38:10 -0500, Dudley Henriques <dhenriques RemoveThis @rcn.com>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
>>>> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
>>>> when it's available.
>>>> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of
>>>> Ram if this is done. I probably didn't look in the right place I'm
>>>> sure
>>>> Anyone have any ideas on this, or a link with some information perhaps?
>>>> Dudley Henriques
>>>
>>> I doubt Leopard's RAM requirements will be substantially higher than
>>> Tiger. 1 GB is probably just fine for Leopard. Adding more RAM will
>>> increase efficiency with either OS version.
>>>
>> I agree. I think I'll probably throw in another gig for general
>> performance increase.
>
> Keep in mind that once you get over the 1 GB threshold, the performance
> increase is less noticeable for light computing. You will most see the
> performance increase when multiple applications are running
> concurrently, and when running memory-hungry applications such as
> Photoshop, iMovie, iDVD, or having lots of windows open in Safari or
> Firefox, and so on.
>
It's like this on the PC as well. The simulator is processor hungray but
the calls use a ton of ram. Graphics are tough on ram even though you
have a high end GPU installed.
On the PC now I have an Nvidia 8800GTS with 640 in video ram. Normal ram
is at 2 gigs DDR for the system running XP/SP2. (MS gave me Vista
Ultimate but I'm holding off installing it.
Even with this, I need that 6600DuoCore Intel to run the simulator
properly to my standards.
The IMac is just for simple online work; mostly tutorials and email.
Perhaps as you say, 1 gig of ram will be fine for Leopard.
DH

Erik Richard Sørensen wrote:
>
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
>> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
>> when it's available.
>
> Even if you keep up with the Tiger, I can strongly recommend to add at
> least 512mb - better 1gb - more memory. The more physical memory you
> have, the less the computer will use and work with any kind of
> swap/temporary files, and tereby also will be speeded up in performance.
>
>> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of Ram
>> if this is done. I probably didn't look in the right place I'm sure
>> Anyone have any ideas on this, or a link with some information perhaps?
>
> A tech buy I know here said to me, when I was down asking prices for a
> Quad - that at least 1gb of RAM would be the absolute smallest, if one
> should get at least some performance out of the Leopard. - He advised to
> have an amount of 2gb as the smallest amount...
>
> cheers, Erik Richard
>
With my 2.0gig IMac, is the expansion 2gig stick to make 3 total on the
Apple site the only ram expansion option? In other words, it looks like
I'm either allowed to stay at 1gig where I am now or must expand all the
way to 3...I can't get another 1gig stick to make it 2????
DH

In article <dOydnSlIydZ_VRvbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d DeleteThis @rcn.net>,
Dudley Henriques <dhenriques DeleteThis @rcn.com> wrote:
> >
> With my 2.0gig IMac, is the expansion 2gig stick to make 3 total on the
> Apple site the only ram expansion option? In other words, it looks like
> I'm either allowed to stay at 1gig where I am now or must expand all the
> way to 3...I can't get another 1gig stick to make it 2????

Sure you can, in fact 2GB is/was a standard option for the iMac.

That's what I've got in this here Core2Duo iMac.

In article <zeOdnepPNo9vGxvbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d.TakeThisOut@rcn.net>,
Dudley Henriques <dhenriques.TakeThisOut@rcn.com> wrote:

> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
> when it's available.
> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of Ram if
> this is done. I probably didn't look in the right place I'm sure
> Anyone have any ideas on this, or a link with some information perhaps?
> Dudley Henriques

Leopard is not due out until October 7th, or something like that. Check
on Apple's web site in October when Leopard is available and all the
technical requirements information will be there. Until that point,
anything said about Leopard on this newsgroup and other public forums is
pure speculation.

Shawn Hirn wrote:
> In article <zeOdnepPNo9vGxvbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d DeleteThis @rcn.net>,
> Dudley Henriques <dhenriques DeleteThis @rcn.com> wrote:
>
>> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
>> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
>> when it's available.
>> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of Ram if
>> this is done. I probably didn't look in the right place I'm sure
>> Anyone have any ideas on this, or a link with some information perhaps?
>> Dudley Henriques
>
> Leopard is not due out until October 7th, or something like that. Check
> on Apple's web site in October when Leopard is available and all the
> technical requirements information will be there. Until that point,
> anything said about Leopard on this newsgroup and other public forums is
> pure speculation.
I understand this. It's only opinions I'm asking for; people who know
Macs better than I do can provide insight even though only speculation.
DH

In article <zeOdnepPNo9vGxvbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d.TakeThisOut@rcn.net>,
Dudley Henriques <dhenriques.TakeThisOut@rcn.com> wrote:

> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
> when it's available.
> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of Ram if
> this is done.

Probably not more than Tiger.
If the new filesystem is being used, it may even be more efficient (ZFS).

Marc

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Marc Heusser wrote:
> In article <zeOdnepPNo9vGxvbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d RemoveThis @rcn.net>,
> Dudley Henriques <dhenriques RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote:
>
>> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
>> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
>> when it's available.
>> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of Ram if
>> this is done.
>
> Probably not more than Tiger.
> If the new filesystem is being used, it may even be more efficient (ZFS).
>
> Marc
>
Thanks for the reply. I just checked my ram and discovered that my 1gig
is actually 2/512's so if I wanted to expand at all I'd have to throw
out the 2 512's and put in either 2/1gig sticks or keep the 512's and
get 1/2gig stick to go to 3gigs.
Pretty fancy marketing there if they could have put in a single 1 gig
stick initially, but I'm not sure they could have done that
DH

Erik Richard Sørensen wrote:
>
> Dudley Henriques wrote:
>> Marc Heusser wrote:
>>> Dudley Henriques <dhenriques.TakeThisOut@rcn.com> wrote:
>>>> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
>>>> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
>>>> when it's available.
>>>> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of
>>>> Ram if this is done.
>>>
>>> Probably not more than Tiger.
>>> If the new filesystem is being used, it may even be more efficient
>>> (ZFS).
>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I just checked my ram and discovered that my
>> 1gig is actually 2/512's so if I wanted to expand at all I'd have to
>> throw out the 2 512's and put in either 2/1gig sticks or keep the
>> 512's and get 1/2gig stick to go to 3gigs.
>> Pretty fancy marketing there if they could have put in a single 1 gig
>> stick initially, but I'm not sure they could have done that
>
> You could also take out the 2x512mb modules and replace with 2x1gb
> modules instead and then sell the 2 512mb modules - or only sell one of
> them, so you get a total of 2,5gb RAM...
>
> cheers, Erik Richard
>
Way it looks at this point, 1 gig might be enough for my needs anyway.
DH

In article <x9CdnZr15caEVhvbnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d.TakeThisOut@rcn.net>,
Dudley Henriques <dhenriques.TakeThisOut@rcn.com> wrote:

> Marc Heusser wrote:
> > In article <zeOdnepPNo9vGxvbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d.TakeThisOut@rcn.net>,
> > Dudley Henriques <dhenriques.TakeThisOut@rcn.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
> >> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
> >> when it's available.
> >> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of Ram if
> >> this is done.
> >
> > Probably not more than Tiger.
> > If the new filesystem is being used, it may even be more efficient (ZFS).
> >
> > Marc
> >
> Thanks for the reply. I just checked my ram and discovered that my 1gig
> is actually 2/512's so if I wanted to expand at all I'd have to throw
> out the 2 512's and put in either 2/1gig sticks or keep the 512's and
> get 1/2gig stick to go to 3gigs.

There are only two DIMM slots on the machine, so at least one of the
512MB pieces would have to go.

> Pretty fancy marketing there if they could have put in a single 1 gig
> stick initially, but I'm not sure they could have done that

They've done it that way occasionally, but historically have almost
always installed memory as matched pairs. Probably because a pair of
smaller DIMMs have generally been cheaper than one with twice the
capacity.

> DH

In article <b9-dneF6s-tIkBrbnZ2dnUVZ_tPinZ2d RemoveThis @rcn.net>,
Dudley Henriques <dhenriques RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote:

> Erik Richard Sørensen wrote:
> >
> > Dudley Henriques wrote:
> >> Marc Heusser wrote:
> >>> Dudley Henriques <dhenriques RemoveThis @rcn.com> wrote:
> >>>> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
> >>>> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
> >>>> when it's available.
> >>>> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of
> >>>> Ram if this is done.
> >>>
> >>> Probably not more than Tiger.
> >>> If the new filesystem is being used, it may even be more efficient
> >>> (ZFS).
> >>
> >> Thanks for the reply. I just checked my ram and discovered that my
> >> 1gig is actually 2/512's so if I wanted to expand at all I'd have to
> >> throw out the 2 512's and put in either 2/1gig sticks or keep the
> >> 512's and get 1/2gig stick to go to 3gigs.
> >> Pretty fancy marketing there if they could have put in a single 1 gig
> >> stick initially, but I'm not sure they could have done that
> >
> > You could also take out the 2x512mb modules and replace with 2x1gb
> > modules instead and then sell the 2 512mb modules - or only sell one of
> > them, so you get a total of 2,5gb RAM...
> >
> > cheers, Erik Richard
> >
> Way it looks at this point, 1 gig might be enough for my needs anyway.
> DH

When you decide to up the memory, check ramseeker.com and see what you
can get your upgrade for; the longer you wait, the cheaper it'll be, at
least until you wait so long that the memory you need is no longer being
made. (There's a reason you can get, say, a PowerBook 520 in mint
condition, except for aged battery, for almost nothing. One of the
reasons.)

Steve Hix wrote:
> In article <x9CdnZr15caEVhvbnZ2dnUVZ_h6vnZ2d.RemoveThis@rcn.net>,
> Dudley Henriques <dhenriques.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote:
>
>> Marc Heusser wrote:
>>> In article <zeOdnepPNo9vGxvbnZ2dnUVZ_sSmnZ2d.RemoveThis@rcn.net>,
>>> Dudley Henriques <dhenriques.RemoveThis@rcn.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My IMac is the 2gig Intel duo Core version with 1 gig of Ram.
>>>> I'm tossing around the idea of upgrading from OSX 10.4.10 to Leopard
>>>> when it's available.
>>>> I don't see any recommendations from Apple on suggested amount of Ram if
>>>> this is done.
>>> Probably not more than Tiger.
>>> If the new filesystem is being used, it may even be more efficient (ZFS).
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>> Thanks for the reply. I just checked my ram and discovered that my 1gig
>> is actually 2/512's so if I wanted to expand at all I'd have to throw
>> out the 2 512's and put in either 2/1gig sticks or keep the 512's and
>> get 1/2gig stick to go to 3gigs.
>
> There are only two DIMM slots on the machine, so at least one of the
> 512MB pieces would have to go.
>
>> Pretty fancy marketing there if they could have put in a single 1 gig
>> stick initially, but I'm not sure they could have done that
>
> They've done it that way occasionally, but historically have almost
> always installed memory as matched pairs. Probably because a pair of
> smaller DIMMs have generally been cheaper than one with twice the
> capacity.
>
>> DH
Thanks for the info.
DH