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Since: Jul 01, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 5:00 pm
Post subject: Hard drive write failure...
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My 6100's hard drive failed and the Mac reported that it couldn't find the
root folder but attempting an initialization with Norton, Disk Manager,
Hard Disk SC by Apple and a couple of others all report failure to write
to disk.
The formatters all see the disk as scsi 0 but an icon doesn't appear on
the desktop. Each one did a test on the drive and reported no errors
yet initialization fails each time with a 'failure to write to disk'
message.
What could be stopping the initialization from writing to the disk?
Is there a boot record formatter that I might need to fix this problem?
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Since: Aug 02, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 8:36 pm
Post subject: Re: Hard drive write failure... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.1030730215353.13835A-100000.RemoveThis@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca>
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Tony Cianfaglione <ab616.RemoveThis@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> What could be stopping the initialization from writing to the disk?
Hardware failure. I hope you have a good recent backup. If it's the
original drive that came with your 6100, it's had a long run.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 5:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Hard drive write failure... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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That's the odd part - I was able to access the drive fine with Norton
volume recovery and copied all the data off to a backup hard drive. The
6100 now boots from that backup hard drive after it polls the scsi line
for bootable volumes. I was hoping for better news re: the failed drive -
maybe a utility that would do a low level write to it and fix that
problem.
Ah, well, I guess it's 'look around for another drive time'. 
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Howard S Shubs wrote:
> Hardware failure. I hope you have a good recent backup. If it's the
> original drive that came with your 6100, it's had a long run. |
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2003 5:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Hard drive write failure... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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<Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.1030731225234.2173A-100000 RemoveThis @halifax.chebucto.ns.ca>,
Tony Cianfaglione <ab616 RemoveThis @chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> I was hoping for better news re: the failed drive -
> maybe a utility that would do a low level write to it and fix that
> problem.
Once a drive starts to fail, it's time to replace it. It's only gonna
get worse.
> Ah, well, I guess it's 'look around for another drive time'.
Er, what kind of SCSI was the old drive?
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 3:37 pm
Post subject: Re: Hard drive write failure... [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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A Quantum 'Maverick' 500 mb. I've now replaced it with a 1gb Seagate and
partitioned it to 2 - 500mb partitions.
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Howard S Shubs wrote:
> Er, what kind of SCSI was the old drive? |
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2003 7:00 pm
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<Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.1030801203545.24922E-100000 RemoveThis @halifax.chebucto.ns.ca>
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Tony Cianfaglione <ab616 RemoveThis @chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
> A Quantum 'Maverick' 500 mb. I've now replaced it with a 1gb Seagate and
> partitioned it to 2 - 500mb partitions.
Ah. I had been thinking that finding a new 50-pin SCSI drive might be a
problem, but you seem to have solved it.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 5:07 am
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Howard S Shubs <howard DeleteThis @shubs.net> wrote:
> Ah. I had been thinking that finding a new 50-pin SCSI drive might be a
> problem, but you seem to have solved it.
They're actually pretty easy to find, on eBay and through vendors of
older hardware.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2003 3:42 pm
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A friend recently upgraded his system to a 40gb HD and had his old 1gb
Seagate sitting on a shelf. He passed it on to me as he had no other use
for it. I lucked out there. 
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On Sat, 2 Aug 2003, Howard S Shubs wrote:
> Ah. I had been thinking that finding a new 50-pin SCSI drive might be a
> problem, but you seem to have solved it. |
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 9:37 am
Post subject: Re: Mac scsi boot errors? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I'm using 7.6 on the 6100 and 7.1 on the IIci - both report the bus error
bug on cold start but not on restart. I woud be interested in reading up
on this bug but can't find anything on Apple's site.
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Mike wrote:
> There was a bug in earlier releases of Mac OS concerning SCSI 5, at the time
> users were warned not to sue this ID. Depending on the OS you're using this
> may be your problem.
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Since: Sep 14, 2003
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 3:18 pm
Post subject: Re: Mac scsi boot errors? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 3/8/03 6:37 pm, in article
Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.1030803143506.24714D-100000.RemoveThis@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca,
"Tony Cianfaglione" <ab616.RemoveThis@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
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> I'm using 7.6 on the 6100 and 7.1 on the IIci - both report the bus error
> bug on cold start but not on restart. I woud be interested in reading up
> on this bug but can't find anything on Apple's site.
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> On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Mike wrote:
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>> There was a bug in earlier releases of Mac OS concerning SCSI 5, at the time
>> users were warned not to sue this ID. Depending on the OS you're using this
>> may be your problem.
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I last read up on this in about 1998, I may still have a reference but can't
rummage until tomorrow, but that certainly sound the right vintage. Just try
altering the SCSI 5 device to SCSI 3 or 4. |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2003 4:18 pm
Post subject: Re: Mac scsi boot errors? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Since the chain is full, I can't reassign any numbers.
scsi 0 - internal HD
scsi 1 - scanner
scsi 2 - external HD
scsi 3 - internal cd-rom
scsi 4 - external cd-writer
scsi 5 - Syquest drive
scsi 6 - Iomega zip drive
scsi 7 - cpu
I switched around the zip and the Syquest with no improvement.
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On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Mike wrote:
> I last read up on this in about 1998, I may still have a reference but can't
> rummage until tomorrow, but that certainly sound the right vintage. Just try
> altering the SCSI 5 device to SCSI 3 or 4. |
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Since: Sep 14, 2003
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2003 3:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Mac scsi boot errors? [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On 4/8/03 1:18 am, in article
Pine.GSO.3.95.iB1.0.1030803211514.393A-100000.RemoveThis@halifax.chebucto.ns.ca, "Tony
Cianfaglione" <ab616.RemoveThis@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote:
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> Since the chain is full, I can't reassign any numbers.
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> scsi 0 - internal HD
> scsi 1 - scanner
> scsi 2 - external HD
> scsi 3 - internal cd-rom
> scsi 4 - external cd-writer
> scsi 5 - Syquest drive
> scsi 6 - Iomega zip drive
> scsi 7 - cpu
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> I switched around the zip and the Syquest with no improvement.
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> On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Mike wrote:
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>> I last read up on this in about 1998, I may still have a reference but can't
>> rummage until tomorrow, but that certainly sound the right vintage. Just try
>> altering the SCSI 5 device to SCSI 3 or 4.
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Have a read at:
http://www.lowendmac.com/tech/scsi5.shtml
Maybe your only solution is to add another SCSI Interface, mind you I can't
see the full time need for a Syquest drive, we phased these out over five
years ago. |
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