Apple iPod as removable drive ? (Windows XP)

On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:16:02 +0000, Richard Wingrove wrote:

>
> "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963.DeleteThis@ivetva.arg> wrote in message

>> So what's so special about the iRiver hard-drive audio players ? Apart
>> from the fact ones got an FM radio, a digital/optical output which ain't
>> much use in a car or on a bus, and they can play OGG-Vorbis files (which I
>> don't use).
>
> Well, you can use it as a removable hard-drive without the need for any
> special drivers (does need drivers for Win98). As far as I know, the IPod
> can't do that.

Thanks for the info, Anyway it's not really a problem now, more of a
query. As I've now ripped/downloaded just about every CD and MP3 that I
have.

> The firmware on the IRivers isn't perfect - it can't do gapless
> playback, the microphone recordings suffer from glitches, and the random
> shuffle is a bit buggy, but the battery lasts about twice as long and
> it's cheaper than an IPod.

Battery life is not a problem for me, as I run the iPod from the car's
cigar-lighter/power-outlet.

Also AFAIK iRiver products don't seem to be widely available in the
United Kingdom (where I am), apart from amazon.co.uk. Plus there's no
mention of United Kingdom support/warranty on their website, only Russia,
Germany, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Poland, and Scandinavian countries.

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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:16:02 +0000, Richard Wingrove wrote:


> Well, you can use it as a removable hard-drive without the need for any
> special drivers (does need drivers for Win98). As far as I know, the IPod
> can't do that.
>
> The firmware on the IRivers isn't perfect - it can't do gapless playback,
> the microphone recordings suffer from glitches, and the random shuffle is a
> bit buggy, but the battery lasts about twice as long and it's cheaper than
> an IPod.

I just done a quick UK Google search for iRiver availability, there
appears to be only a few *online* dealers selling them. With the iRiver
iHP-120 being listed at around £300, which is about the same as I paid
for the 20gig iPod.

Perhaps it's cheaper in the US and Canada.

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On 2004-03-26 18:15:18 -0500, michael turner <zvxr.gheare1963.TakeThisOut@ivetva.arg> said:

> Xposted:
>
> Is it possible to setup an iPod as a removable drive on a Windows
> computer ?
>
> I've heard mention of this, but on my computer it seems the only way
> to transfer MP3s into the iPod is to use the iTunes software. While
> iTunes is quite good, I'd prefer just to be able to drag and
> drop MP3s into the iPod.

These are two different issues. The iPod is a hard drive, with a little
computer. The hard drive behaves just like any other hard drive,
period. I use mine as a hard drive just as often as a music player. The
iPod instructions show the preference that lets you mount the iPod as a
drive. That's all there is to it.

As for the otehr issue, copying music, remember that the music content
is mainly the MP3 / AAC / AIFF files, but also a fair amount of
metadata. While you can copy the files over yourself - assuming you
have the proper directory structure - you will be sorta screwing with
the built-in intelligence there. Recall that you have the ability to
sync automatically, or by action, and you have on-the-go playlists and
such. Better to just use iTunes for the music, and your desktop (or
shareware) for everything else.

I use one program to copy notes onto it, using the same navigation as
that used for the music, and the desktop to copy stuff in bulk, and
another program to copy books in sections, as well as iTunes. K-I-S-S.

If you really want to get into it, you should read the developer notes
available on the Apple site.

>
> OS is Windows XP pro
> iPod 20gig, firmware 3.1, connected to the PC using the dock and USB2.
>
> Oh yeh I've tried Googling for the above, but couldn't find any useful
> information.


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Gregory Weston <gwestonREMOVE RemoveThis @CAPSattbi.com> writes:

> "Those proprietary Apple formats?" Let's see, that would be MP3 - which
> isn't Apple's - and AAC - which isn't Apple's. Apple _does_ have their
> own DRM solution, but right now that's probably serving them better as a

And that affects only things purchased from the iTunes Music Store
online. Anything one rips on his own - whether AAC or Mp3 - is
completely standard.

Now, it'd be really nice if they added, say, Ogg to it...

Only things I've 'purchased' from the ITMS are things which
were paid for by pepsi-bottle caps. Anything else, I just
buy the CD and rip on my own anyway. At this point, always
in Mp3 so that they can be played over my home network on
my Tivo...


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> Also AFAIK iRiver products don't seem to be widely available in the
> United Kingdom (where I am), apart from amazon.co.uk. Plus there's no
> mention of United Kingdom support/warranty on their website, only Russia,
> Germany, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Poland, and Scandinavian countries.
>

goto www.empiredirect.co.uk if you want to buy an iriver ihp model in the
uk.
damyjuk

"damyjuk" <aquq24.DeleteThis@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> > Also AFAIK iRiver products don't seem to be widely available in the
> > United Kingdom (where I am), apart from amazon.co.uk. Plus there's no
> > mention of United Kingdom support/warranty on their website, only
Russia,
> > Germany, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Poland, and Scandinavian
countries.
> >
>
> goto www.empiredirect.co.uk if you want to buy an iriver ihp model in the
> uk.
> damyjuk
>
or http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/, where I got mine.

Roger

"michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963 DeleteThis @ivetva.arg> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:16:02 +0000, Richard Wingrove wrote:
>
>
> > Well, you can use it as a removable hard-drive without the need for any
> > special drivers (does need drivers for Win98). As far as I know, the
IPod
> > can't do that.
> >
> > The firmware on the IRivers isn't perfect - it can't do gapless
playback,
> > the microphone recordings suffer from glitches, and the random shuffle
is a
> > bit buggy, but the battery lasts about twice as long and it's cheaper
than
> > an IPod.
>
> I just done a quick UK Google search for iRiver availability, there
> appears to be only a few *online* dealers selling them. With the iRiver
> iHP-120 being listed at around £300, which is about the same as I paid
> for the 20gig iPod.
>
> Perhaps it's cheaper in the US and Canada.
>
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As I've just posted in another thread, I got mine at
http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/ and I've just looked at their price,
which is £255. Rather less than I paid

Roger

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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 22:56:14 +0100,
Harri Mellin (atz02-NoSpAm-@netscape.net) wrote:
> In article <92d12ada.0403270936.48f7b868.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>,
> joseph_blow16.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com (Joe Blow) wrote:
>
>> I can play the superb,
>> non-proprietary OGG format
>
> will get DRM:ed in the near future

It is already available (in beta) -- the Media-S project. Hopefully,
this will result in wider use of the OGG format. When that happens,
I think it is likely that Apple will add OGG support to the iPod.
<http://www.sidespace.com/products/oggs/>

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On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 23:01:05 +0100, Harri Mellin wrote:

> In article <pan.2004.03.27.18.24.36.53000.DeleteThis@ivetva.arg>,
> michael turner <zvxr.gheare1963.DeleteThis@ivetva.arg> wrote:
>
>> And since when is MP3 and MP4 a 'proprietary Apple music format' ?
>
>
> AAC is a product of the combined efforts of several organizations including
> AT&T, Dolby Laboratories, Fraunhofer Institute for Integrated Circuits, and
> Sony Corporation. In order to streamline the licensing process,

Exactly, it's not a 'proprietary Apple music format'.

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Prilosec <purple.TakeThisOut@nni.net> wrote:

> agree. Try to rip into MP3 with WMP 9---have to buy an add-on program. I am
> an audio book lover, and ripping a book from CD to MP3 as a "collection" in
> iTunes is great and easy. WMP9 makes a good compressed file and works well,
> but iTunes is easier for me to use overall. It is a great program, with the
> only real limitation (for me) of using that AAC format which can only be
> played on an iPod (I don't have one). For MP3 ripping, though, I can't see
> how you can compare, since WMP can't even do it and iTunes does it really
> well.
> "michael turner" <zvxr.gheare1963.TakeThisOut@ivetva.arg> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.03.28.16.19.28.251000@ivetva.arg...

Any macintosh computer can play an AAC file (not suprising as Apple
invented it).


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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 20:36:52 +0100,
Stuart Hutchinson (stuart.hutchinson@invalid.com) wrote:

> Any macintosh computer can play an AAC file (not suprising as Apple
> invented it).

It may be true that any Macintosh computer can play an AAC file (with
QuickTime installed), but it is not true that Apple invented AAC. AAC
was developed by the MPEG group (Dolby, Fraunhofer et al.). Apple has
licensed AAC from the MPEG group.

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