What unix do you prefer ?

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Alan Connor wrote:
> On Tue, 11 May 2004 06:04:29 +0000 (UTC), Jean-Baptiste Hétier
<djib.TakeThisOut@radiopi.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>Red hat, debian, mandrake ?
>>Which is your favorite ?
>
>
> My favorite Unix is FreeBSD, for no particular reason.
[snip]
> My favorite Linux is Debian.

If you're making distinctions between Unix and Linux, then you should
know that FreeBSD is not a Unix. See
http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/catalog.htm

So, /if/ you're making such distinctions, then it appears that you have
no favourite Unix, but /do/ have a favourite OpenBSD.

FWIW, /my/ favourite Unix is AIX, with OS/390 coming in second place.



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Lew Pitcher, IT Consultant, Enterprise Application Architecture
Enterprise Technology Solutions, TD Bank Financial Group

(Opinions expressed here are my own, not my employer's)
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Alan Connor <zzzzzz.DeleteThis@xxx.yyy> écrivait
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> On Tue, 11 May 2004 06:04:29 +0000 (UTC), Jean-Baptiste Hétier
> <djib.DeleteThis@radiopi.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Red hat, debian, mandrake ?
>> Which is your favorite ?
>
> My favorite Unix is FreeBSD, for no particular reason. They
> are all good. I'd run Unix if it wasn't for the fact that
> a huge number of great applications have been created for
> Libc6/Linux that just don't work on Unix. http://www.freebsd.org
>
> My favorite Linux is Debian. It is very clean
> and dependable, follows the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard),
> and very easy to customize. You aren't locked into a GIDE
> (Graphical Integrated Desktop Environment). http://www.debian.org
>
> I guess you could call them all "unix", if you don't
> capitalize the word.
>
> Then there's "UNIX" which is a trademark belonging to
> The Open Group (which is anything but...). http://www.unix.org
>
> AC
>
>

Lot of people talk about debian... I've tried Mandrake in a VirtualPC and
I found it easy to install, and found it was a good 'preview' of what
linux is... I'm planning to install a 'real' linux system on my Computer.
I may install Debian !

Lew Pitcher <Lew.Pitcher RemoveThis @td.com> wrote in message news:<7k3oc.10784$dr1.393067@news20.bellglobal.com>...
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> Alan Connor wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 May 2004 06:04:29 +0000 (UTC), Jean-Baptiste Hétier
> <djib RemoveThis @radiopi.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Red hat, debian, mandrake ?
> >>Which is your favorite ?
> >
> >
> > My favorite Unix is FreeBSD, for no particular reason.
> [snip]
> > My favorite Linux is Debian.
>
> If you're making distinctions between Unix and Linux, then you should
> know that FreeBSD is not a Unix. See
> http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/catalog.htm
>
> So, /if/ you're making such distinctions, then it appears that you have
> no favourite Unix, but /do/ have a favourite OpenBSD.
>
> FWIW, /my/ favourite Unix is AIX, with OS/390 coming in second place.

AIX is pretty good, yes. Probably due to my love of smit I'd come
close to agreeing with you, but then I'd actually have to say that
Solaris 10 just pips it to the post.

As far as UNIX-like operating systems go, my personal preference is
Slackware.

As per the list of 3 given, I'd probably go with.. ooh... so tricky...
well... Debian is just great, mainly due to apt... but then some of
the "Druids" with Mandrake make a n00bs life so easy. So they come
equal first. RedHat / Fedora? Nah...

In comp.os.linux.setup, Jean-Baptiste Hétier uttered these immortal words:

<snip>
>> My favorite Linux is Debian. It is very clean
>> and dependable, follows the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard),
>> and very easy to customize. You aren't locked into a GIDE
>> (Graphical Integrated Desktop Environment). http://www.debian.org
<snip>
> Lot of people talk about debian... I've tried Mandrake in a VirtualPC and
> I found it easy to install, and found it was a good 'preview' of what
> linux is...

Preview?

> I'm planning to install a 'real' linux system on my Computer.
> I may install Debian !

Mandrake *is* a "real" Linux system. It just happens to have a nice, easy
installer and a nice, easy config tool in Mandrake Control Centre.

I suppose you could say Debian is more "hardcore" (whatever that might mean)
because it doesn't hold your hand and requires you to learn more about
Linux than a nice, easy config tool does but you're not forced to use MCC
in Mandrake.

You could say the same for Slackware and Gentoo as well to name two more
"hardcore" distros. That still doesn't mean Mandrake isn't a "real" Linux
system though.

Slackware is more Unix-like and considered to be more "pure" by many and
Gentoo is built from source code which is a lot easier than it sounds.

I use Debian, the unstable branch, and Gentoo here.

--
Andy.

Andy Fraser <andyfraser31.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> écrivait
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> In comp.os.linux.setup, Jean-Baptiste Hétier uttered these immortal
> words:
>
> <snip>
>>> My favorite Linux is Debian. It is very clean
>>> and dependable, follows the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy Standard),
>>> and very easy to customize. You aren't locked into a GIDE
>>> (Graphical Integrated Desktop Environment). http://www.debian.org
> <snip>
>> Lot of people talk about debian... I've tried Mandrake in a VirtualPC
>> and I found it easy to install, and found it was a good 'preview' of
>> what linux is...
>
> Preview?
>
>> I'm planning to install a 'real' linux system on my Computer.
>> I may install Debian !
>
> Mandrake *is* a "real" Linux system. It just happens to have a nice,
> easy installer and a nice, easy config tool in Mandrake Control
> Centre.
>
> I suppose you could say Debian is more "hardcore" (whatever that might
> mean) because it doesn't hold your hand and requires you to learn more
> about Linux than a nice, easy config tool does but you're not forced
> to use MCC in Mandrake.
>
> You could say the same for Slackware and Gentoo as well to name two
> more "hardcore" distros. That still doesn't mean Mandrake isn't a
> "real" Linux system though.
>
> Slackware is more Unix-like and considered to be more "pure" by many
> and Gentoo is built from source code which is a lot easier than it
> sounds.
>
> I use Debian, the unstable branch, and Gentoo here.
>

sorry, that's not what I ment !
I was talking about virtual PC in my post, so that's why I talked of a
'preview'. I'm now planning to install Linux for 'real', which meant for
me : not in a VPC.
I'll certainly not criticize Mandrake since I really find it cool !
I just want to know which Linux most people use, or like using, so I can
install the same !
Sorry again !

Jean-Baptiste Hétier wrote:
> Red hat, debian, mandrake ?
> Which is your favorite ?

Transitioning from Windows, SuSE Professional v9.1
may be a good bet. It's GUI is very familiar to
Windows folks, and it is consistently reviewed
as a very good distribution.

Regards,
Larry

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| Lew Pitcher <Lew.Pitcher.TakeThisOut@td.com> wrote in message
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|>Alan Connor wrote:
|>
|>>On Tue, 11 May 2004 06:04:29 +0000 (UTC), Jean-Baptiste Hétier
|>
|> <djib.TakeThisOut@radiopi.org> wrote:
|>
|>>>Red hat, debian, mandrake ?
|>>>Which is your favorite ?
|>>
|>>
|>>My favorite Unix is FreeBSD, for no particular reason.
|>
|> [snip]
|>
|>>My favorite Linux is Debian.
|>
|>If you're making distinctions between Unix and Linux, then you should
|>know that FreeBSD is not a Unix. See
|>http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/catalog.htm
|>
|>So, /if/ you're making such distinctions, then it appears that you have
|>no favourite Unix, but /do/ have a favourite OpenBSD.
|>
|>FWIW, /my/ favourite Unix is AIX, with OS/390 coming in second place.
|
|
| AIX is pretty good, yes. Probably due to my love of smit I'd come
| close to agreeing with you, but then I'd actually have to say that
| Solaris 10 just pips it to the post.

Never used Solaris. But... I did, long ago, use SysV on a Motorola system.


| As far as UNIX-like operating systems go, my personal preference is
| Slackware.

As is mine (in my private life) <grin>
I've been running Slackware on something or other since Slackware 3.0. I've
got three machines at home (a 'server', a 'workstation', and a laptop) and one
machine at work (a 'server') running Slackware 9.0.


| As per the list of 3 given, I'd probably go with.. ooh... so tricky...
| well... Debian is just great, mainly due to apt... but then some of
| the "Druids" with Mandrake make a n00bs life so easy. So they come
| equal first. RedHat / Fedora? Nah...

If I had to choose from the OP's list, I'd go with Debian (then RedHat, then
Mandrake).

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Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | GPG public key available on request
Registered Linux User #112576 (http://counter.li.org/)
Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing.
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Lew Pitcher <lpitcher DeleteThis @sympatico.ca> écrivait
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>|>Alan Connor wrote:
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>|>>On Tue, 11 May 2004 06:04:29 +0000 (UTC), Jean-Baptiste Hétier
>|>
>|> <djib DeleteThis @radiopi.org> wrote:
>|>
>|>>>Red hat, debian, mandrake ?
>|>>>Which is your favorite ?
>|>>
>|>>
>|>>My favorite Unix is FreeBSD, for no particular reason.
>|>
>|> [snip]
>|>
>|>>My favorite Linux is Debian.
>|>
>|>If you're making distinctions between Unix and Linux, then you should
>|>know that FreeBSD is not a Unix. See
>|>http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/catalog.htm
>|>
>|>So, /if/ you're making such distinctions, then it appears that you
>|>have no favourite Unix, but /do/ have a favourite OpenBSD.
>|>
>|>FWIW, /my/ favourite Unix is AIX, with OS/390 coming in second place.
>|
>|
>| AIX is pretty good, yes. Probably due to my love of smit I'd come
>| close to agreeing with you, but then I'd actually have to say that
>| Solaris 10 just pips it to the post.
>
> Never used Solaris. But... I did, long ago, use SysV on a Motorola
> system.
>
>
>| As far as UNIX-like operating systems go, my personal preference is
>| Slackware.
>
> As is mine (in my private life) <grin>
> I've been running Slackware on something or other since Slackware 3.0.
> I've got three machines at home (a 'server', a 'workstation', and a
> laptop) and one machine at work (a 'server') running Slackware 9.0.
>
>
>| As per the list of 3 given, I'd probably go with.. ooh... so
>| tricky... well... Debian is just great, mainly due to apt... but then
>| some of the "Druids" with Mandrake make a n00bs life so easy. So
>| they come equal first. RedHat / Fedora? Nah...
>
> If I had to choose from the OP's list, I'd go with Debian (then
> RedHat, then Mandrake).
>
> - --
> Lew Pitcher
>
> Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | GPG public key available on
> request Registered Linux User #112576 (http://counter.li.org/)
> Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing.
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why would you put mandrake last ?

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Jean-Baptiste Hétier wrote:
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>
> Mattias Honrendgard wrote:
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> |>Alan Connor wrote:
> |>
> |>>On Tue, 11 May 2004 06:04:29 +0000 (UTC), Jean-Baptiste Hétier
> |>
> |> <djib.DeleteThis@radiopi.org> wrote:
> |>
> |>>>Red hat, debian, mandrake ?
> |>>>Which is your favorite ?
[snip]
> If I had to choose from the OP's list, I'd go with Debian (then
> RedHat, then Mandrake).

> why would you put mandrake last ?

Primarily because I wouldn't put it first or second when given those
three choices.

Debian is a well-designed general distribution, with little or no 'fluff'.

RedHat is a well-marketed general distribution that many business and
personal users have settled on. It has a fair amount of 'fluff', but the
'fluff' doesn't intefere too much with its use.

Mandrake is a well-marketed home-user/clueless-newbie distribution that
many personal users have settled on. It has a great deal of 'fluff', and
(judging by the traffic in alt.os.linux.mandrake) that fluff is either
confusing to it's userbase, or inteferes with it's user base.

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Lew Pitcher, IT Consultant, Enterprise Application Architecture
Enterprise Technology Solutions, TD Bank Financial Group

(Opinions expressed here are my own, not my employer's)
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