linux kernel installation

In comp.os.linux.setup Peter T. Breuer <ptb.TakeThisOut@oboe.it.uc3m.es>:
> x <cupidisdangerous.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> how to install a new linux kernel on an already installed linux system.

> Put it in place in your /boot directory, add its modules to your
> /lib/modules hierarchy, maybe make an approprate ramdisk image if you
> use ramdisks to boot, and add the appropriate stanza to whatever your
> boot loader config file is, and maybe run whatever your boot loader
> installer is.



>> I am using redhat 9.0 presently. I want to upgrade its kernel to some
>> new kernel which has the ability to mount ntfs as read write.

There's no Linux kernel that will write ntfs reliable, since the
specs for ntfs aren't open, none is able to develop one. Use a
vfat partition for data exchange or samba if it's remote. There
was some doze app 'explore2fs' to read/write ext2, dunno if it's
still maintained and working with ext3?

> Uh ... that's not a function of the kernel but of the kernel DRIVER you
> use. You can choose to install a new driver, not a new kernel.

>> thanx and please be elaborate regarding the installation procedure.

> The procedure depends on you and your circumstances and choices. What
> boot loader have you preferred to use, for example? Well, whatever it
> is, read its instructions, and do the appropriate thing .. there's
> really no need to treat a little thing like an additional kernel in its
> boot menu as a great difficulty!

Indeed, but it might be scary for the unaware.

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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 07:24:05 +0100, x <cupidisdangerous.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

> hi
> how to install a new linux kernel on an already installed linux system.
> I am using redhat 9.0 presently. I want to upgrade its kernel to some
> new kernel which has the ability to mount ntfs as read write.
> thanx and please be elaborate regarding the installation procedure.

Installing an rpm usually takes care of everything, including the boot
loader. However, I am not sure you will find an rpm for RH9 with a
sufficiently recent ntfs driver.

Be aware that ntfs drivers up to recently could not write safely, or
could only write safely *inside existing files*, i.e. not create files,
not increase the size of a file, not rename or delete a file...
Editors usually write a new copy of the file they update and then do
some renaming and deleting, so that one or the other version will
survive no matter when the power failure happens. This makes editors
unsable on ntfs where the driver cannot create files.

The current status for the newest ntfs driver I don't know. The last
web page I have seen about it is http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/ntfs/

The page does describe some workarounds. There appears to be
something called Captive, which works well for some.

-Enrique

On 23 Dec 2005 22:24:05 -0800, "x" <cupidisdangerous.RemoveThis@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>hi
>how to install a new linux kernel on an already installed linux system.
>I am using redhat 9.0 presently. I want to upgrade its kernel to some
>new kernel which has the ability to mount ntfs as read write.
>thanx and please be elaborate regarding the installation procedure.


http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/ch-...tom-ker

Read the whole article before trying it.
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x wrote:
> hi
> how to install a new linux kernel on an already installed linux system.
> I am using redhat 9.0 presently. I want to upgrade its kernel to some
> new kernel which has the ability to mount ntfs as read write.
> thanx and please be elaborate regarding the installation procedure.
>

I would appear that you are out of luck. The current driver (as of Dec
27th) makes this claim:


This enables the partial, but safe, write support in the NTFS driver.


The only supported operation is overwriting existing files, without
changing the file length. No file or directory creation, deletion or
renaming is possible. Note only non-resident files can be written to
so you may find that some very small files (<500 bytes or so) cannot
be written to.

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Bill Davidsen wrote:

> x wrote:
>> hi
>> how to install a new linux kernel on an already installed linux system.
>> I am using redhat 9.0 presently. I want to upgrade its kernel to some
>> new kernel which has the ability to mount ntfs as read write.
>> thanx and please be elaborate regarding the installation procedure.
>>
>
> I would appear that you are out of luck.

captive is revived again (and supports fuse and WinXP SP2 NTFS driver now).
Get kernel with fuse support, get captive and you are set. Write speed may
not be truly impressive but it is OK if you just need to copy several
files.

=arvi=

kermit wrote:
> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>
> > x wrote:
> >> hi
> >> how to install a new linux kernel on an already installed linux system.
> >> I am using redhat 9.0 presently. I want to upgrade its kernel to some
> >> new kernel which has the ability to mount ntfs as read write.
> >> thanx and please be elaborate regarding the installation procedure.
> >>
> >
> > I would appear that you are out of luck.
>
> captive is revived again (and supports fuse and WinXP SP2 NTFS driver now).
> Get kernel with fuse support, get captive and you are set. Write speed may
> not be truly impressive but it is OK if you just need to copy several
> files.
>
> =arvi=

more info about Captive NTFS (author's website);
http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/

Enrique Perez-Terron <enrio.RemoveThis@online.no> wrote:

> The current status for the newest ntfs driver I don't know. The last
> web page I have seen about it is http://bisqwit.iki.fi/story/howto/ntfs/
>
> The page does describe some workarounds. There appears to be
> something called Captive, which works well for some.

That page appears to be obsolete, and new work is mentioned here:
http://www.linux-ntfs.org/

Note the breakthough in write support. Great stuff!

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