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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:59 am
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Sgt. Slaughter <rmiller.DeleteThis@gmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
> Hello??? How often does he get mugged? The troll is actually arguing that
> people should carry around multiple gadgets with them so that when they get
> MUGGED the mugger will miss one of the other gadgets that the person is
> carrying. LOL! - This has got to be the most moronic reason I've ever heard.
Hahah, so playing devil's advocate is now trolling is it?
Having the audacity to disagree with you is trolling... I'll remember that.
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:31 am
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It was on, or about, Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:32:50 +0000, that as I was
halfway through a large jam doughnut, spike1 wrote:
> Sgt. Slaughter <rmiller.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
<snip drivel>
> Hahah, so playing devil's advocate is now trolling is it? Having the
> audacity to disagree with you is trolling... I'll remember that.
I don't see the OP, but it seems the spamtroll doesn't like you knocking
down it's strawman arguments.
As you point out, it's not too long ago people carrying ipods were mugged.
Anyway it doesn't matter how often he gets mugged, if someone's bought an
expensive iphone which has their info on, they only need to be mugged
once. Their email info is then in someone else's hands, & it doesn't take
a genius to work out what they'll do with it.
There is a report that on one iphone {OS X 1.0 (1A543a)} it allows the
MobileMail application to be run as superuser!!
It crashes too, which reveals a few things:
http://arslounge.com/user/27/tag/os%20x/
Note also:-
Apple run ordinary user applications as SUID root
Apple's web applications on the iPhone are already crashing.
The iPhone comes with the root account enabled
http://rixstep.com/2/1/20070703,00.shtml
Now, do you *really* want one of these gadgets? As I've said, I'll stick
with a simple call/receive cell phone, thank-you.
> <snip rest of his irrelevant bullshit>
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:18 pm
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Sgt. Slaughter <rmiller DeleteThis @gmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
> I think the spike troll has a point. People shouldn't buy nice cars because
> they are more likely to be stolen. People shouldn't live in a nice house
> because they are more likely to be burglarized.
The word is burgled.
Why do americans invent words that sound stupid and end up being LONGER than
the one they couldn't remember?
Burglar, burgle, burgled, burgling. None of this burglarizing bullshit.
Utter stupidity.
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 1:32 pm
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:01:40 -0400, Sgt. Slaughter wrote:
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> <spike1 RemoveThis @freenet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1m9cn4-6bc.ln1@ridcully.ntlworld.com...
>> AB <fardblossom RemoveThis @gmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
>>> Here in the US people have been getting mugged (and seriously hurt) for
>>> their iPods. I expect to see news of this happening with iPhones pretty
>>> soon, too. Nobody wants to bother robbing me for my $30 Nokia, though.
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>> Same things've been reported here. And I expect the iphone will be the
>> next
>> mugging fad, too.
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> The iPhone is about twice the size of a pack of cigarettes. If it's simply
> in your pocket you're pretty unlikely to get mugged. I've lived 28 years of
> my life outside the city of Chicago and have yet to ever be mugged. I make
> my buying decisions based on what ***I*** want and desire. I don't buy
> things based on my fear of getting mugged for the first time.
Which is sensible enough, but when you're using it, you *could* be mugged,
it does happen, unfortunately. It's one of the downsides of the consumer
society.
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:06 pm
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Verily I say unto thee, that ed spake thusly:
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:33:29 -0400
> "Sgt. Slaughter" <rmiller RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>> EVERYBODY who's seen this thing has been totally
ZZzzzzz. ZZzz. Zzzzzzzzzz. Zzz.
> A phone is just a phone. Good luck making it earn that $500 back for
> you.
Don't forget the $1000 per year contract:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/how-does-the-iphone-stack-up-in-total-cost/
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 3:35 pm
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<spike1 DeleteThis @freenet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Sgt. Slaughter <rmiller DeleteThis @gmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
>> I think the spike troll has a point. People shouldn't buy nice cars
>> because
>> they are more likely to be stolen. People shouldn't live in a nice house
>> because they are more likely to be burglarized.
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> The word is burgled.
> Why do americans invent words that sound stupid and end up being LONGER
> than
> the one they couldn't remember?
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> Burglar, burgle, burgled, burgling. None of this burglarizing bullshit.
> Utter stupidity.
Could you possibly be any dumber? It only takes about 2 seconds to look this
up and avoid looking like the total retarded jackass that you are.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/burglarized
bur·glar·ize(būrgl-rz)
v. bur·glar·ized, bur·glar·iz·ing, bur·glar·iz·es
1. To enter and steal from (a building or other premises).
2. To commit burglary against: The second-floor tenants have been
BURGLARIZED twice.
v.intr.
To commit burglary.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/07/07/obama-office-burglarized/
DAVENPORT, Iowa (AP) - The Davenport campaign headquarters for Sen. Barack
Obama, D-Ill., was BURGLARIZED Friday night.
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:33 pm
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On 2007-07-22, Hadron <hadronquark RemoveThis @googlemail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if Apple considered the "mugging factor" into their design. The
> mind boggles at your ability to knock a successful device like the
> iPhone, purely because it's not Linux based. Sour Grapes.
It sure seems that way. I really don't get it to be honest.
Why can't people just appreciate something that is really nice?
Everything doesn't have to be Linux to be enjoyed and just
because something *is* Linux doesn't mean it *will*
be enjoyed. I would suggest those who don't like the iPhone
on paper, go and actually try one and then decide.
There is nothing remotely close to the iPhone, yet.
This of course will change, just like iPod clones have
appeared. Even still, the iPod is *STILL* number one
and the unit to beat despite the fact other devices *do*
work better and offer better value, iPod is still
the top unit.
To me, that says something about the design.
It goes beyond being the first on the street because
the 2nd and 3rd wave of users are still choosing the iPod
when other alternatives exist.
Just for the record, would *I* buy an iPod?
Maybe, but Sandisk makes far better players at far
more attractive prices. The only real advantage that
iPod has over the others is integration with
car audio systems and the number of available
accessories.
Other than that, the other brands have iPod beat
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:03 pm
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On 2007-07-22, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> [snips]
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> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:33:29 -0400, Sgt. Slaughter wrote:
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>> Just picked up the 8-gig model
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> It's a phone; I don't need 8 gigs on a phone; I need a contact list and
> the ability to make and receive calls.
Me too, but we are not everyone.
Evidently a good number of people like an all in one device.
For those that do, the iPhone sets the benchmark, at least
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:03 pm
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"waterskidoo" <water.skidoo.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On 2007-07-22, Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> [snips]
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>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:33:29 -0400, Sgt. Slaughter wrote:
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>>> Just picked up the 8-gig model
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>> It's a phone; I don't need 8 gigs on a phone; I need a contact list and
>> the ability to make and receive calls.
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> Me too, but we are not everyone.
> Evidently a good number of people like an all in one device.
> For those that do, the iPhone sets the benchmark, at least
> for the moment.
Excellent points. Look at it this way - What are the MOST POPULAR telephones
out on the market right now? Answer: iPhone, Blackberry and the Treo. Each
one is a multi-purpose multi-function device. This is clearly what consumers
want and is the direction that these devices are headed in.
Because some simpletons here claim that all they want is a cheapo $15 phone
means nothing. These people clearly are not a valid representation of the
buying public and it shows just how much out of touch they are.
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:09 pm
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It was on, or about, Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:36:41 -0700, that as I was
halfway through a large jam doughnut, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> [snips]
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> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:33:29 -0400, Sgt. Slaughter wrote:
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>> Just picked up the 8-gig model
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> It's a phone; I don't need 8 gigs on a phone; I need a contact list and
> the ability to make and receive calls.
Precisely!
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:15 pm
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It was on, or about, Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:12:11 +0000, that as I was
halfway through a large jam doughnut, spike1 wrote:
> Sgt. Slaughter <rmiller.RemoveThis@gmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
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>> <spike1.RemoveThis@freenet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:1m9cn4-6bc.ln1@ridcully.ntlworld.com...
>>> AB <fardblossom.RemoveThis@gmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
>>>> Here in the US people have been getting mugged (and seriously hurt)
>>>> for their iPods. I expect to see news of this happening with iPhones
>>>> pretty soon, too. Nobody wants to bother robbing me for my $30 Nokia,
>>>> though.
>>>
>>> Same things've been reported here. And I expect the iphone will be the
>>> next
>>> mugging fad, too.
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>> The iPhone is about twice the size of a pack of cigarettes. If it's
>> simply in your pocket you're pretty unlikely to get mugged.
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> Pickpocketed on the other hand...
>
>> I've lived 28 years of
>> my life outside the city of Chicago and have yet to ever be mugged. I
>> make my buying decisions based on what ***I*** want and desire. I don't
>> buy things based on my fear of getting mugged for the first time.
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>> Enjoy your sour grapes.
>
> No sour grapes here, I just don't see the point of spending 500 dollars
> on something that you carry about and risk losing in one random act of
> violence or pickpocketry. And as for your "I keep it in my pocket"...
> How do you use it then? The moment you take it out to watch a video
> you're advertising the thing to all the thieves in the area.
Or stick an earplug in your ear, a la ipod, & advertise it.
I agree. I don't see the point of spending $500 on something, three
quarters of which I wouldn't use, & which is insecure anyway. (the user
runs applications as root by default)
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:09 pm
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 18:18:36 +0000, spike1 wrote:
> Sgt. Slaughter <rmiller DeleteThis @gmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
>> I think the spike troll has a point. People shouldn't buy nice cars
>> because they are more likely to be stolen. People shouldn't live in a
>> nice house because they are more likely to be burglarized.
>
> The word is burgled.
> Why do americans invent words that sound stupid and end up being LONGER
> than the one they couldn't remember?
>
> Burglar, burgle, burgled, burgling. None of this burglarizing bullshit.
> Utter stupidity.
burglarize
One entry found for burglarize.
Main Entry: bur·glar·ize
Pronunciation: 'b&r-gl&-"rIz also 'b&r-g&-l&-
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -ized; -iz·ing
transitive verb
1 : to break into and steal from <burglarize a house>
2 : to commit burglary against
intransitive verb : to commit burglary
per websters, an american dictionary.
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:23 pm
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:36:41 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
> It's a phone; I don't need 8 gigs on a phone; I need a contact list and
> the ability to make and receive calls.
the pet peeve I have with my phone is that it doesn't sync with the
computer. I looked into purchasing some sort of special cable, special
software, blah, blah, blah. Admittedly, it's a rather old phone.
Even if it were a new phone, it's doubtful that it would sync with linux.
I'm mystified by the phone/camera combination. Why? The phone/radio/mp3
player are at least using speakers, so makes some sense.
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(Msg. 44) Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 10:34 pm
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On 2007-07-23, Thufir <hawat.thufir.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:36:41 -0700, Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
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>> It's a phone; I don't need 8 gigs on a phone; I need a contact list and
>> the ability to make and receive calls.
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> the pet peeve I have with my phone is that it doesn't sync with the
> computer. I looked into purchasing some sort of special cable, special
> software, blah, blah, blah. Admittedly, it's a rather old phone.
>
> Even if it were a new phone, it's doubtful that it would sync with linux.
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> I'm mystified by the phone/camera combination. Why? The phone/radio/mp3
> player are at least using speakers, so makes some sense.
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> -Thufir
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(Msg. 45) Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 3:01 am
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Sgt. Slaughter <rmiller RemoveThis @gmail.com> did eloquently scribble:
>> Burglar, burgle, burgled, burgling. None of this burglarizing bullshit.
>> Utter stupidity.
> Could you possibly be any dumber? It only takes about 2 seconds to look this
> up and avoid looking like the total retarded jackass that you are.
> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/burglarized
And what has that to do with anything?
Don't try to deny you americans made the word up because you couldn't think
of the proper one. Just because you made it up in an incredibly fit of
stupidity 100 years ago and it stuck is no excuse.
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