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Since: May 01, 2007 Posts: 37
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:21 am
Post subject: OSX 10.5 gets UNIX 03 Certification Archived from groups: comp>os>linux>advocacy, others (more info?)
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Congrats Everyone!
OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
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OS X's commercial credentials recently got a major boost from the Open
Group. Thanks to the efforts of Apple's OS boss Kevin Van Vechten and
his team, Leopard has cleared all of the hurdles required to attain UNIX
03 certification. That places Apple in elite company. Only Sun, IBM and
HP are certified, so OS X turns the Big Three into the Big Four.
Here's Apple's Open Group brand certificate, which entitles Apple to use
the UNIX brand. I suggest printing this on high rag content paper,
framing it and hanging it in your server room or your Mac-graced
cubicle. There are UNIX pretenders, and there is the real thing. Mac
users, realize that qualifying for UNIX is no small feat, especially for
an open source, BSD-based OS. The Open Group standards, the PDFs for
which are idiotically marked as free but blocked from PDF download
unless you buy your way into a membership, are rooted in System V. Apple
is to be commended.
The UNIX 03 specifications cover libraries, system calls, terminal
interfaces, commands and utilities, internationalization and the C
language. That's the whole enchilada for ISVs (independent software
vendors) porting their server and non-GUI applications to OS X. UNIX
ISVs ought to climb on board, because once Leopard ships in October I
expect Xserve sales to take a leap. Software developers should also keep
in mind that the Leopard client OS is the same as Apple's server, minus
the quite exceptional administrative tools, and the installed base of
four and eight-core Mac Pro desktop/workstations is even larger.
A bit More Here:
http://snipurl.com/1p047
or
http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2007/07/leopard_gets_u
n.html
Congrats Everyone, now the World's Most Popular Unix based OS, is
Certified by the OPEN GROUP.
http://www.opengroup.org/
Learn more about the upcoming high powered server here:
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/
Learn more about the upcoming client here:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/
And highest performing Unix hardware for the price here:
http://www.apple.com/xserve/
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Since: May 09, 2007 Posts: 57
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:21 am
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"Oxford" <colalovesmacs DeleteThis @mac.com> stated in post
colalovesmacs-82A669.13210731072007 DeleteThis @mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net on 7/31/07
12:21 PM:
> Congrats Everyone!
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> OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
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> OS X's commercial credentials recently got a major boost from the Open
> Group. Thanks to the efforts of Apple's OS boss Kevin Van Vechten and
> his team, Leopard has cleared all of the hurdles required to attain UNIX
> 03 certification. That places Apple in elite company. Only Sun, IBM and
> HP are certified, so OS X turns the Big Three into the Big Four.
I bet there are still those in CSMA who will claim that OS X is not as
Unix-like as is Linux.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:21 am
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Since: Jun 04, 2007 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:09 am
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In article
<colalovesmacs-82A669.13210731072007.DeleteThis@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford <colalovesmacs.DeleteThis@mac.com> wrote:
> Congrats Everyone!
>
> OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
I'm sure that we will now learn that the Open Group is not competent to
hand out UNIX certifications.
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Timberwoof <me at timberwoof dot com> http://www.timberwoof.com
"When you post sewage, don't blame others for
emptying chamber pots in your direction." ‹Chris L.
an important web site: http://www.muslim-refusenik.com/ |
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Since: Jul 31, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:11 am
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Since: Apr 10, 2007 Posts: 581
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:01 pm
Post subject: Re: OSX 10.5 gets UNIX 03 Certification [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article
<timberwoof.spam-6C0C27.15093531072007.TakeThisOut@nnrp-virt.nntp.sonic.net>,
Timberwoof <timberwoof.spam.TakeThisOut@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:
> In article
> <colalovesmacs-82A669.13210731072007.TakeThisOut@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net>,
> Oxford <colalovesmacs.TakeThisOut@mac.com> wrote:
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> > Congrats Everyone!
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> > OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
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> I'm sure that we will now learn that the Open Group is not competent to
> hand out UNIX certifications.
....until someone, such as Redhat, gets a Linux certified as Unix, and
then it will be a big point in Linux advocacy arguments.
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Since: Apr 10, 2007 Posts: 380
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:47 pm
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:21:07 -0600, Oxford wrote:
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> OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
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So what? Why tell us in COLA? We don't care.
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Since: May 01, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:47 pm
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In article <pan.2007.07.31.21.22.45.456030.TakeThisOut@tiscali.co.uk>,
Kier <vallon.TakeThisOut@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:21:07 -0600, Oxford wrote:
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> >
> > OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
> >
>
> So what? Why tell us in COLA? We don't care.
Because OS X is Unix based.
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Posted from my 1999 Apple G4 Sawtooth
A 450 MHz G4 running OS X 10.4.8 |
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Since: May 01, 2007 Posts: 37
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:47 pm
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Kier <vallon DeleteThis @tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> > OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
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> So what? Why tell us in COLA? We don't care.
SURE you do since it entirely effects the viability of Linux as business
standard going forward.
Now companies won't have to spend extra money to run Linux, they can get
best of class hardware and software with full 03 certification by the
Open Group directly through Apple!
Good news for EVERYONE!
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Congrats Everyone!
OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
----
OS X's commercial credentials recently got a major boost from the Open
Group. Thanks to the efforts of Apple's OS boss Kevin Van Vechten and
his team, Leopard has cleared all of the hurdles required to attain UNIX
03 certification. That places Apple in elite company. Only Sun, IBM and
HP are certified, so OS X turns the Big Three into the Big Four.
Here's Apple's Open Group brand certificate, which entitles Apple to use
the UNIX brand. I suggest printing this on high rag content paper,
framing it and hanging it in your server room or your Mac-graced
cubicle. There are UNIX pretenders, and there is the real thing. Mac
users, realize that qualifying for UNIX is no small feat, especially for
an open source, BSD-based OS. The Open Group standards, the PDFs for
which are idiotically marked as free but blocked from PDF download
unless you buy your way into a membership, are rooted in System V. Apple
is to be commended.
The UNIX 03 specifications cover libraries, system calls, terminal
interfaces, commands and utilities, internationalization and the C
language. That's the whole enchilada for ISVs (independent software
vendors) porting their server and non-GUI applications to OS X. UNIX
ISVs ought to climb on board, because once Leopard ships in October I
expect Xserve sales to take a leap. Software developers should also keep
in mind that the Leopard client OS is the same as Apple's server, minus
the quite exceptional administrative tools, and the installed base of
four and eight-core Mac Pro desktop/workstations is even larger.
A bit More Here:
http://snipurl.com/1p047
or
http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2007/07/leopard_gets_u
n.html
Congrats Everyone, now the World's Most Popular Unix based OS, is
Certified by the OPEN GROUP.
http://www.opengroup.org/
Learn more about the upcoming high powered server here:
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/
Learn more about the upcoming client here:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/
And highest performing Unix hardware for the price here:
http://www.apple.com/xserve/
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Since: Jun 17, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:06 pm
Post subject: Re: OSX 10.5 gets UNIX 03 Certification [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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In article <pan.2007.07.31.21.22.45.456030 DeleteThis @tiscali.co.uk>,
Kier <vallon DeleteThis @tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:21:07 -0600, Oxford wrote:
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> >
> > OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
> >
>
> So what? Why tell us in COLA? We don't care.
Because we hear so much about how OS X is not UNIX (harumph!), it's just
Unix. Or maybe it's the other way around. Anyhow, this thoroughly
squashes that debate.
--
SD
"Such warnings, however, have to contend with the Mac
OS X's impressive lack of major security incidents."
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Since: May 09, 2007 Posts: 57
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:08 pm
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"StormDrain" <Liberty DeleteThis @MS-Free.com> stated in post
Liberty-35EBB1.21060531072007 DeleteThis @cnews.newsguy.com on 7/31/07 9:06 PM:
> In article <pan.2007.07.31.21.22.45.456030 DeleteThis @tiscali.co.uk>,
> Kier <vallon DeleteThis @tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
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>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:21:07 -0600, Oxford wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
>>>
>>
>> So what? Why tell us in COLA? We don't care.
>
> Because we hear so much about how OS X is not UNIX (harumph!), it's just
> Unix. Or maybe it's the other way around. Anyhow, this thoroughly
> squashes that debate.
You have no faith in the desperation of some in CSMA to keep such debates
going.
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€ The tilde in an OS X path does *not* mean "the hard drive only"
€ Things which are not the same are not "identical"
€ The word "ouch" is not a sure sign of agreement. |
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Since: Apr 10, 2007 Posts: 133
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:16 pm
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:46:38 -0500, Jim Lee Jr. wrote:
> In article <pan.2007.07.31.21.22.45.456030.TakeThisOut@tiscali.co.uk>,
> Kier <vallon.TakeThisOut@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:21:07 -0600, Oxford wrote:
>>
>>
>> > OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
>> >
>> >
>> So what? Why tell us in COLA? We don't care.
>
> Because OS X is Unix based.
Yes? So? What does that have to do with Linux?
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Since: May 01, 2007 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:16 pm
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In article <13av9lhmn493v0e.DeleteThis@news.supernews.com>, Rick <none.DeleteThis@nomail.com>
wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:46:38 -0500, Jim Lee Jr. wrote:
>
> > In article <pan.2007.07.31.21.22.45.456030.DeleteThis@tiscali.co.uk>,
> > Kier <vallon.DeleteThis@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:21:07 -0600, Oxford wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> > OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> So what? Why tell us in COLA? We don't care.
> >
> > Because OS X is Unix based.
>
> Yes? So? What does that have to do with Linux?
Because Linux is derived from Unix.
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Posted from my 1999 Apple G4 Sawtooth
A 450 MHz G4 running OS X 10.4.8 |
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Since: May 01, 2007 Posts: 37
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:16 pm
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Rick <none DeleteThis @nomail.com> wrote:
> >> > OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> So what? Why tell us in COLA? We don't care.
> >
> > Because OS X is Unix based.
>
> Yes? So? What does that have to do with Linux?
It points to the future of Unix, numbnut.
Learn, Rick, Learn.
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Congrats Everyone!
OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
----
OS X's commercial credentials recently got a major boost from the Open
Group. Thanks to the efforts of Apple's OS boss Kevin Van Vechten and
his team, Leopard has cleared all of the hurdles required to attain UNIX
03 certification. That places Apple in elite company. Only Sun, IBM and
HP are certified, so OS X turns the Big Three into the Big Four.
Here's Apple's Open Group brand certificate, which entitles Apple to use
the UNIX brand. I suggest printing this on high rag content paper,
framing it and hanging it in your server room or your Mac-graced
cubicle. There are UNIX pretenders, and there is the real thing. Mac
users, realize that qualifying for UNIX is no small feat, especially for
an open source, BSD-based OS. The Open Group standards, the PDFs for
which are idiotically marked as free but blocked from PDF download
unless you buy your way into a membership, are rooted in System V. Apple
is to be commended.
The UNIX 03 specifications cover libraries, system calls, terminal
interfaces, commands and utilities, internationalization and the C
language. That's the whole enchilada for ISVs (independent software
vendors) porting their server and non-GUI applications to OS X. UNIX
ISVs ought to climb on board, because once Leopard ships in October I
expect Xserve sales to take a leap. Software developers should also keep
in mind that the Leopard client OS is the same as Apple's server, minus
the quite exceptional administrative tools, and the installed base of
four and eight-core Mac Pro desktop/workstations is even larger.
A bit More Here:
http://snipurl.com/1p047
or
http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2007/07/leopard_gets_u
n.html
Congrats Everyone, now the World's Most Popular Unix based OS, is
Certified by the OPEN GROUP.
http://www.opengroup.org/
Learn more about the upcoming high powered server here:
http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/leopard/
Learn more about the upcoming client here:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/
And highest performing Unix hardware for the price here:
http://www.apple.com/xserve/
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:16 pm
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"Rick" <none.TakeThisOut@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:46:38 -0500, Jim Lee Jr. wrote:
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>> In article <pan.2007.07.31.21.22.45.456030.TakeThisOut@tiscali.co.uk>,
>> Kier <vallon.TakeThisOut@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:21:07 -0600, Oxford wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> > OSX 10.5 coming out in October gets approval from the Open Group!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> So what? Why tell us in COLA? We don't care.
>>
>> Because OS X is Unix based.
>
> Yes? So? What does that have to do with Linux?
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