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waterskidoo <water.skidoo.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> writes:

> On 2007-07-26, chrisv <chrisv.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> waterskidoo wrote:
>> Of course, but I thought the issue was using old hardware, with the
>> *assumption* that the old hardware still functioned. If it's
>> non-functional, replacing it is not really an option, is it?
>
> Systems don't wear out over time, well maybe hdisks do, but in general
> they don't.

Huh?

> CRT's have a very specific lifespan in general before they
> get fuzzy and just don't work well anymore.

So CRTs or HDs?

>
>
>>>Disk space for mp3 and other multimedia storage. Who would
>>>have known a few years ago the explosion of multimedia.
>>
>> Okay, I have 200 CD's. How many GBytes of MP3's is that? Can't fill
>> much of a HD with it, can I?
>>
>> Most HD's never come close to being filled-up.
>
> Not true.
> With P2P, grandma's video collection and downloading of video
> hdisks get filled up very quickly.

Yup. Thank god for USB 2.

waterskidoo <water.skidoo.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> writes:

> On 2007-07-27, waterskidoo <water.skidoo.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> To clarify my point, what I mean is that shows that are on cable,
> Sopranos, Deadlyist Catch, Madmen etc are very popular
> downloads on usenet and P2P. Sorry for the confusion.

So you advocate piracy? :-; (Only joking)

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waterskidoo <water.skidoo.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> writes:

> On 2007-07-27, DFS <nospam.TakeThisOut@dfs_.com> wrote:
>> waterskidoo wrote:
>>> On 2007-07-26, DFS <nospam.TakeThisOut@dfs_.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Hence: the OS that nobody wants runs "well" on the hardware that
>>>> nobody wants
>>>
>>> I wouldn't say *nobody*.
>>
>> The OS that 2% wants runs "well" on the hardware that 2% wants. Better?
>
> Where do you get that figure?
>

Agreed. Linux has no where near 2% of the desktop market. I wish it had more.

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waterskidoo wrote:

>With P2P, grandma's video collection and downloading of video
>hdisks get filled up very quickly.
>You do realize that the downloading of movies and shows
>on cable is huge amongst average Joe.

Bullshit. Almost no one does that. Ever hear of televisions, Tivos,
and DVD players? The "average Joe" does NOT use his PC for watching
"movies and shows".

waterskidoo wrote:

>On 2007-07-27, waterskidoo <water.skidoo.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>To clarify my point, what I mean is that shows that are on cable,
>Sopranos, Deadlyist Catch, Madmen etc are very popular
>downloads on usenet and P2P.

Yeah, I'm sure a whopping 1% of PC users actually do that.

chrisv <chrisv DeleteThis @nospam.invalid> espoused:
> waterskidoo wrote:
>
>>With P2P, grandma's video collection and downloading of video
>>hdisks get filled up very quickly.
>>You do realize that the downloading of movies and shows
>>on cable is huge amongst average Joe.
>
> Bullshit. Almost no one does that. Ever hear of televisions, Tivos,
> and DVD players? The "average Joe" does NOT use his PC for watching
> "movies and shows".
>

Internet traffic patterns usually indicate that most traffic is p2p,
moving audio and video files. How many users that encompasses, I don't
know, but it is far more common than you seem to recognise.

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chrisv <chrisv RemoveThis @nospam.invalid> espoused:
> waterskidoo wrote:
>
>>On 2007-07-27, waterskidoo <water.skidoo RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>To clarify my point, what I mean is that shows that are on cable,
>>Sopranos, Deadlyist Catch, Madmen etc are very popular
>>downloads on usenet and P2P.
>
> Yeah, I'm sure a whopping 1% of PC users actually do that.
>

It's the majority of internet traffic, next being pr0n.

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Mark Kent wrote:

>chrisv <chrisv.TakeThisOut@nospam.invalid> espoused:
>> waterskidoo wrote:
>>
>>>On 2007-07-27, waterskidoo <water.skidoo.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>To clarify my point, what I mean is that shows that are on cable,
>>>Sopranos, Deadlyist Catch, Madmen etc are very popular
>>>downloads on usenet and P2P.
>>
>> Yeah, I'm sure a whopping 1% of PC users actually do that.
>
>It's the majority of internet traffic, next being pr0n.

I don't doubt that, but that doesn't mean the majority of people do
it. Video takes so much bandwidth that the 1% doing it can easily
comsume 50% of the bandwidth.

On 2007-07-27, Hadron <hadronquark.RemoveThis@googlemail.com> wrote:
> waterskidoo <water.skidoo.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> On 2007-07-27, waterskidoo <water.skidoo.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> To clarify my point, what I mean is that shows that are on cable,
>> Sopranos, Deadlyist Catch, Madmen etc are very popular
>> downloads on usenet and P2P. Sorry for the confusion.
>
> So you advocate piracy? :-; (Only joking)

No, but you can store the same programs on your DVR right off of
the cable station.
What I meant was that the shows are ON cable, not that they
are USING cable to download them, even though many are.
As far as piracy is concerned, if it comes into my house
via the cable system I pay for (tv's), I can do anything
I want with it other than selling it or charging to view it.
The riaa will disagree I am sure but screw them.

On 2007-07-27, chrisv <chrisv.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> waterskidoo wrote:
>
>>With P2P, grandma's video collection and downloading of video
>>hdisks get filled up very quickly.
>>You do realize that the downloading of movies and shows
>>on cable is huge amongst average Joe.
>
> Bullshit. Almost no one does that. Ever hear of televisions, Tivos,
> and DVD players? The "average Joe" does NOT use his PC for watching
> "movies and shows".

Every single person I know does.
Not everyone subscribes to the premium stations that have programs
like the Sopranos etc.
Those programs are all over the torrents etc.
It's HUGE.

waterskidoo wrote:

>Every single person I know does.

Funny, no one I know does.

On 2007-07-27, chrisv <chrisv.DeleteThis@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> waterskidoo wrote:
>
>>On 2007-07-27, waterskidoo <water.skidoo.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>To clarify my point, what I mean is that shows that are on cable,
>>Sopranos, Deadlyist Catch, Madmen etc are very popular
>>downloads on usenet and P2P.
>
> Yeah, I'm sure a whopping 1% of PC users actually do that.

You're dead wrong with this one chrisv.

waterskidoo <water.skidoo.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> writes:

> On 2007-07-27, chrisv <chrisv.RemoveThis@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> waterskidoo wrote:
>>
>>>With P2P, grandma's video collection and downloading of video
>>>hdisks get filled up very quickly.
>>>You do realize that the downloading of movies and shows
>>>on cable is huge amongst average Joe.
>>
>> Bullshit. Almost no one does that. Ever hear of televisions, Tivos,
>> and DVD players? The "average Joe" does NOT use his PC for watching
>> "movies and shows".
>
> Every single person I know does.
> Not everyone subscribes to the premium stations that have programs
> like the Sopranos etc.
> Those programs are all over the torrents etc.
> It's HUGE.
>

You must remember that "chrisv" is a long term Linux user and thinks 256
colors on the desktop "is enough" and "meets his needs".

Like most COLA "zealots" (or the COLA gang as I call them), he has NO
idea how computers are used on the average desktop these days or what
advances Apple and MS have made in terms of video and audio sub systems.