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Roy Schestowitz

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:10 am
Post subject: [News] Microsoft Slammed for Attempts to Hijack the World Wide Web, Speaker Snubbed
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Audience abandons Microsoft's MIX 07 keynote

,----[ Quote ]
| He said that when Microsoft and other companies create communities
| around their technology, it's usually accidental, not created by
| any ad placed strategically on a web page or in a game.
|
| "The Xbox community existed, but the Microsoft ads [in games and
| on Xbox Live] then got moved around quite by accident, not by
| design," Rasala said. "It's unclear that many companies can
| replicate that pattern by design."
|
| After Bach's keynote, it was difficult to find attendees in
| the hall that did not work for Microsoft. Nine out of 10
| attendees approached for comment after his talk were from
| the company.
`----

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=9217

Also see:

Silverlight is about The Microsoft Web.

,----[ Quote ]
| Sorry, but I have to say something very rude. You clearly don't know
| what you're talking about. That is Microsoft PR talking. Can you say
| "credibility loss".
|
| Silverlight is about The Microsoft Web
|
| Silverlight is not about the World Wide Web. It's about The Microsoft
| Web. It's about getting fools to rally around Microsoft. After all of
| this time and experience with Microsoft, anybody with half a brain
| will be smart enough to avoid doing that. The last thing you want to
| be is dependent on Microsoft and set yourself up to be a DIRECT
| competitor with "Microsoft Cloud Services" down the road. Dumb.
| Foolish. Stupid. Smart investors won't invest one dime in your
| company and might even short your stock.
|
| Remember, it's Microsoft's cloud. Microsoft is not investing in
| huge datacenters all around the world for no reason. And, Microsoft
| will do whatever it takes, including operating that new online
| services business at a huge loss, to starve off any smaller
| competitor that foolishly chose to develop on the Silverlight
| platform. Microsoft sold $44 BILLION and cleared $18 BILLION
| profit last year. How many billions did you make last year?
`----

http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-11406-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=33334&m...ageID=6


Related:

Why Microsoft Silverlight Will Fail.

,----[ Quote ]
| My main reasons (And please, correct me if I am wrong):
|
| * No IDE for me - The development path is currently platform
| specific to Windows. Not even an open compiler or server side
| compiler for Linux is available. Use Expression Blend on my
| Mac? Not happening.
|
| * No plug in for Linux - Even Adobe has managed to deliver it's
| modern plugin to Linux users. I only use Linux as a server
| platform, but with Ubuntu, etc making inroads on the desktop,
| it's nice to have it as an option.
|
| [...]
`----

http://visualrinse.com/2007/04/16/why-microsoft-silverlight-will-fail/


Microsoft's Silverlight Promises to Disrupt Linux Web Users

,----[ Quote ]
| Just as it seemed that Linux users (especially 64-bit users) would
| finally be able to enjoy streaming content with a minimum of
| hassle, Microsoft's new Silverlight software promises to throw a
| wrench in the works. Because of sites like Google Video and
| Youtube, Flash video has become a common means of streaming
| multimedia over the Internet.
`----

http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry1418.html


Microsoft's 'Everywhere' excludes Linux

,----[ Quote ]
| This browser add-on enables rendering of WPF content, but
| "Everywhere" doesn't include Linux.
`----

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/7794/53/


ECIS Accuses Microsoft of Plotting HTML Hijack

,----[ Quote ]
| An industry coalition that has represented competitors of Microsoft
| in European markets before the European Commission stepped up its
| public relations offensive this morning, this time accusing
| Microsoft of scheming to upset HTML's place in the fabric of
| the Internet with XAML, an XML-based layout lexicon forn
| etwork applications.
`----

http://www.betanews.com/article/ECIS_Accuses_Microsoft_of_Plotting_HTM...ijack/1


Software rivals say Microsoft's Vista illegal in Europe (at CNNMoney.com)

,----[ Excerpt ]
| Software manufacturers, citing 2004 European Commission finding,
| contend the operating system violates server laws in Europe.
|
| [...]
|
| "Vista is the first step of Microsoft's strategy to extend its market
| dominance to the Internet," the ECIS statement said.
|
| It said Microsoft's XAML markup language was "positioned to replace HTML,"
| the industry standard for publishing documents on the Internet.
|
| Microsoft's own language would be dependent on Windows, and discriminatory
| against rival systems such as Linux, the group says.
|
| They said a so-called "open XML" platform file format, known as OOXML, is
| designed to run seamlessly only on the Microsoft Office platform.
`----

http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/26/news/international/bc.vista.microsoft....reut/in


,----[ Quote ]
| From: Bill Gates
| Sent: Saturday, December 05, 1998 9:44 AM
| To: Bob Muglia (Exchange); Jon DeVaan; Steven Sinofsky
| Cc: Paul Mariz
| Subject: Office rendering
|
| One thing we have got to change is our strategy -- allowing Office
| documents to be rendered very well by OTHER PEOPLES BROWSERS is one of the
| most destructive things we could do to the company.
|
| We have to stop putting any effort into this and make sure that Office
| documents very well depends on PROPRIETARY IE capabilities.
|
| Anything else is suicide for our platform. This is a case where Office has
| to to destroy Windows.
`----

http://www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/2000/PX02991.pdf


Vista to give HD Photo format more exposure

,----[ Quote ]
| Microsoft is looking to supplant the ubiquitous JPEG with an image format
| of its own--and it's hoping the debut of Windows Vista will help do the
| job.
`----

http://news.com.com/Vista+to+give+HD+Photo+format+more+exposure/2100-1..._3-6153
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BearItAll

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Since: Apr 11, 2007
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 3:54 am
Post subject: Re: [News] Microsoft Slammed for Attempts to Hijack the World Wide Web, Speaker Snubbed [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> Audience abandons Microsoft's MIX 07 keynote
>
> ,----[ Quote ]
> | He said that when Microsoft and other companies create communities
> | around their technology, it's usually accidental, not created by
> | any ad placed strategically on a web page or in a game.
> |
> | "The Xbox community existed, but the Microsoft ads [in games and
> | on Xbox Live] then got moved around quite by accident, not by
> | design," Rasala said. "It's unclear that many companies can
> | replicate that pattern by design."
> |
> | After Bach's keynote, it was difficult to find attendees in
> | the hall that did not work for Microsoft. Nine out of 10
> | attendees approached for comment after his talk were from
> | the company.
> `----
>
> http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=9217
>

That is reasonable, communities of like minded or same hobby are all over
the web, I'm in two that are exclusive (we don't like people seeing our
words of wisdom, in case they tell us we are talking bollocks Smile ).

I don't see any problem in MS having MSN and Xbox or any other community
they fancy. I saw one the other day, 'MS Online Club for people who are
upset because things aren't going to well' started by some one with the
handle steveb.
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AB

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:44 am
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On 2007-05-04, BearItAll <spam DeleteThis @rassler.co.uk> claimed:

> I don't see any problem in MS having MSN and Xbox or any other community
> they fancy. I saw one the other day, 'MS Online Club for people who are
> upset because things aren't going to well' started by some one with the
> handle steveb.

Sounds to me like somebody is compiling his enemies list.

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Mark Kent

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 12:49 pm
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AB <fardblossom.RemoveThis@gmail.com> espoused:
> On 2007-05-04, BearItAll <spam.RemoveThis@rassler.co.uk> claimed:
>
>> I don't see any problem in MS having MSN and Xbox or any other community
>> they fancy. I saw one the other day, 'MS Online Club for people who are
>> upset because things aren't going to well' started by some one with the
>> handle steveb.
>
> Sounds to me like somebody is compiling his enemies list.
>

All bets are off when the empire is crumbling. I'm sure that there will
be many "nights of the long knives" before Microsoft have reduced
themselves to a sustainable size.

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