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Santa Cruz Operation Lega

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:20 pm
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SCO Announces Intellectual Property License for Linux
8/5/2003 12:43:00 PM

LINDON, Utah, Aug 5, 2003 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- The SCO
Group, Inc. (SCOX) , the owner and licensor of the core UNIX(R) operating
system source code, today announced the availability of the SCO
Intellectual Property License for Linux(R). The run-time license permits
the use of SCO's intellectual property, in binary form only, as contained
in Linux distributions. By purchasing a SCO Intellectual Property License,
customers avoid infringement of SCO's intellectual property rights in
Linux 2.4 and Linux 2.5 kernels. Because the SCO license authorizes
run-time use only, customers also comply with the General Public License,
under which Linux is distributed.

(Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19990421/SCOLOGO )

SCO announced in July that it had registered the copyrights to its
software releases of UNIX System V and UnixWare(R) with the U.S. Copyright
office and that it would offer licenses to cure the SCO IP infringement
issues for Linux operating systems. Beginning this week, SCO will start
meeting with commercial Linux customers to present the details of this
right to use SCO intellectual property binary licensing program.

"We have identified numerous files of unlicensed UNIX System V code and
UNIX System V derivative code in the Linux 2.4 and 2.5 kernels," said
Chris Sontag, senior vice president and general manager of SCOsource, the
intellectual property licensing division of SCO. "We believe it is
necessary for Linux customers to properly license SCO's IP if they are
running Linux 2.4 kernel and later versions for commercial purposes. The
license insures that customers can continue their use of binary
deployments of Linux without violating SCO's intellectual property
rights."

Pricing and Availability

SCO will be offering an introductory license price of $699 for a single
CPU system through October 15th, 2003. Pricing for multiple CPU systems,
single CPU add-ons, desktop systems and embedded systems will also be
available. Linux users who are interested in additional information or
purchasing an IP License for Linux should contact their local SCO sales
representative or call SCO at 1-800-726-8649 or visit our web site at
http://www.sco.com/scosource .

About The SCO Group

The SCO Group (SCOX) helps millions of customers in more than 82 countries
to grow their businesses with UNIX business solutions. Headquartered in
Lindon, Utah, SCO has a worldwide network of more than 11,000 resellers
and 4,000 developers. SCO Global Services provides reliable localized
support and services to all partners and customers. For more information
on SCO products and services visit http://www.sco.com .

SCO and the associated SCO logo are trademarks or registered trademarks of
The SCO Group, Inc., in the U.S. and other countries. UNIX and UnixWare
are registered trademarks of The Open Group in the United States and other
countries. All other brand or product names are or may be trademarks of,
and are used to identify products or services of, their respective owners.

SOURCE The SCO Group

Blake Stowell of The SCO Group, +1-801-932-5703,
bstowell RemoveThis @sco.com ; or Dave Close, Avi Dines, or Brian Willinsky, all of
Schwartz Communications, +1-781-684-0770, sco RemoveThis @schwartz-pr.com , for The SCO
Group
/Photo: NewsCom: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19990421/SCOLOGO
AP Archive: http://photoarchive.ap.org
PRN Photo Desk, +1-888-776-6555 or +1-212-782-2840

http://www.sco.com/scosource
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Jean-David Beyer

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:20 pm
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Santa wrote:
| SCO Announces Intellectual Property License for Linux
| 8/5/2003 12:43:00 PM
|
| LINDON, Utah, Aug 5, 2003 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- The SCO
| Group, Inc. (SCOX) , the owner and licensor of the core UNIX(R) operating
| system source code, today announced the availability of the SCO
| Intellectual Property License for Linux(R). The run-time license permits
| the use of SCO's intellectual property, in binary form only, as contained
| in Linux distributions. By purchasing a SCO Intellectual Property License,
| customers avoid infringement of SCO's intellectual property rights in
| Linux 2.4 and Linux 2.5 kernels. Because the SCO license authorizes
| run-time use only, customers also comply with the General Public License,
| under which Linux is distributed.
|
| (Logo: http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/19990421/SCOLOGO )
|
[snip]

Are they not a bit premature? April Fool's Day is not for almost eight
months.

- --
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wesley

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 3:20 pm
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 20:20:31 +0000, wrote:

> SCO Announces Intellectual Property License for Linux
> 8/5/2003 12:43:00 PM
>
> LINDON, Utah, Aug 5, 2003 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- The SCO
> Group, Inc. (SCOX) , the owner and licensor of the core UNIX(R) operating
> system source code, today announced the availability of the SCO
> Intellectual Property License for Linux(R). The run-time license permits
> the use of SCO's intellectual property, in binary form only, as contained
> in Linux distributions. By purchasing a SCO Intellectual Property License,
> customers avoid infringement of SCO's intellectual property rights in
> Linux 2.4 and Linux 2.5 kernels. Because the SCO license authorizes
> run-time use only, customers also comply with the General Public License,
> under which Linux is distributed.

See http://www.redhat.com/advice/speaks_rhletter2.html for Red Hat's
response to this situation.
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Steve Martin

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:25 pm
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Santa wrote:

> LINDON, Utah, Aug 5, 2003 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- The SCO
> Group, Inc. (SCOX) , the owner and licensor of the core UNIX(R) operating
> system source code, today announced the availability of the SCO
> Intellectual Property License for Linux(R). The run-time license permits
> the use of SCO's intellectual property, in binary form only, as contained
> in Linux distributions.

This is on the face of it illegal, amounting to nothing more than an attempt
at extortion. SCO has yet to demonstrate that it in fact owns copyright to
any of the code in the Linux kernel (in fact, it flatly refuses to show
which
code supposedly infringes except to persons signing an NDA), the case
has not yet been heard in court nor will it be until sometime in 2005, and
until it has been determined in court that their allegations are true
SCO has
no more right of ownership of any code in the Linux kernel than do I, and
no more right to sell licenses for use of this code than do I. (As a
matter of
fact, a German court has taken notice of this very fact and has issued an
injunction against SCO Germany that prevents them from asking
Linux users for license fees until the case is settled, and complaints
against SCO have been filed toward this same end with Australian
authorities.)

Even if there is SCO property improperly included in the kernel, the end
user is no more liable than would be a person who buys a newspaper that
contains a plagiarized story. The crime would have been committed by the
party committing the plagiarism.

Until the courts decide, I remind SCO what the Irish New York cop said
to Osama
Bin Laden...


--
Steve Martin, CPBE CBNT
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Baho Utot

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:15 pm
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Santa Cruz Operation Legal Dept. wrote:

>
>
> SCO Announces Intellectual Property License for Linux
> 8/5/2003 12:43:00 PM
>

[SNIP]

Go piss up a rope!
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Nico Kadel-Garcia

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:50 pm
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Baho Utot wrote:

> Santa Cruz Operation Legal Dept. wrote:
>
>
>>
>>SCO Announces Intellectual Property License for Linux
>>8/5/2003 12:43:00 PM
>>
>
>
> [SNIP]
>
> Go piss up a rope!
>

Now, now, be nice. It's amusing to see, and is going to be awfully fun
to watch SCO^H^H^H Caldera^H^H^H whichever former management team is
running the company this week explain that the publication by Caldera of
Linux kernels and various "copylefted" utilities in their Linux releases
somehow does not compel them to make this code available freely.

And hope that Judge White doesn't wind up ruling on this mess, because
his rulings in the various Micro$oft messes showed the heavy
political/lobby/legal money shoved up his ass and moving his lips in
almost every decision.
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Baho Utot

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 5:54 pm
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Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:

>
>
> Baho Utot wrote:
>
>> Santa Cruz Operation Legal Dept. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>>SCO Announces Intellectual Property License for Linux
>>>8/5/2003 12:43:00 PM
>>>
>>
>>
>> [SNIP]
>>
>> Go piss up a rope!
>>
>
> Now, now, be nice. It's amusing to see, and is going to be awfully fun
> to watch SCO^H^H^H Caldera^H^H^H whichever former management team is
> running the company this week explain that the publication by Caldera of
> Linux kernels and various "copylefted" utilities in their Linux releases
> somehow does not compel them to make this code available freely.
>
> And hope that Judge White doesn't wind up ruling on this mess, because
> his rulings in the various Micro$oft messes showed the heavy
> political/lobby/legal money shoved up his ass and moving his lips in
> almost every decision.

Ditto here, and I _WAS_ being nice. If they think they can get money from
me.....well they mite-as-well 'Go piss up a rope'.
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Alan Connor

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 8:44 pm
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On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 21:25:07 -0400, Steve Martin <ecprod.TakeThisOut@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
> Santa wrote:
>
>> LINDON, Utah, Aug 5, 2003 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- The SCO
>> Group, Inc. (SCOX) , the owner and licensor of the core UNIX(R) operating
>> system source code, today announced the availability of the SCO
>> Intellectual Property License for Linux(R). The run-time license permits
>> the use of SCO's intellectual property, in binary form only, as contained
>> in Linux distributions.
>

> This is on the face of it illegal, amounting to nothing more than an attempt
> at extortion. SCO has yet to demonstrate that it in fact owns copyright to
> any of the code in the Linux kernel (in fact, it flatly refuses to show
> which
> code supposedly infringes except to persons signing an NDA), the case
> has not yet been heard in court nor will it be until sometime in 2005, and
> until it has been determined in court that their allegations are true
> SCO has
> no more right of ownership of any code in the Linux kernel than do I, and
> no more right to sell licenses for use of this code than do I. (As a
> matter of
> fact, a German court has taken notice of this very fact and has issued an
> injunction against SCO Germany that prevents them from asking
> Linux users for license fees until the case is settled, and complaints
> against SCO have been filed toward this same end with Australian
> authorities.)
>
> Even if there is SCO property improperly included in the kernel, the end
> user is no more liable than would be a person who buys a newspaper that
> contains a plagiarized story. The crime would have been committed by the
> party committing the plagiarism.
>
> Until the courts decide, I remind SCO what the Irish New York cop said
> to Osama
> Bin Laden...
>
>

Well....I already HAVE the source, and the yuppies at SCO
can kiss my hind quarters.

I will never pay them one lousy penny and will use Linux for the rest
of my life.

If they push it, I will become a cracker and make making their lives miserable
my hobby.

Alan

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David Harris

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2003 5:29 am
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"Alan Connor" <xxxxxx DeleteThis @xxxx.xxx> wrote in message
news:h4ZXa.3219$jp.923@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> If they push it, I will become a cracker and make making their lives
miserable
> my hobby.

And I'm pretty sure the entire open source community will have the same
goal... Smile
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Kevin

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:40 pm
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Baho Utot wrote:

> Santa Cruz Operation Legal Dept. wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> SCO Announces Intellectual Property License for Linux
>> 8/5/2003 12:43:00 PM
>>
>
> [SNIP]
>
> Go piss up a rope!
I belive this is the correct response
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Alan Connor

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2003 12:40 pm
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:40:54 +1200, Kevin <waugh.TakeThisOut@metservice.com> wrote:
>
>
> Baho Utot wrote:
>
>> Santa Cruz Operation Legal Dept. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> SCO Announces Intellectual Property License for Linux
>>> 8/5/2003 12:43:00 PM
>>>
>>
>> [SNIP]
>>
>> Go piss up a rope!
> I belive this is the correct response


Smile



How about "Go piss in your $12 cup of coffee with 21 ingredients."

(Who but genuine yuppies could ever manifest such ludicrous arrogance?)



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