[LONGISH] My Linux Journey

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:52:24 +0200, Hadron wrote:

> Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory.DeleteThis@netscape.net> writes:
>
>> Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Let me explain : in one thread we have Mr Shearman telling me I'm too
>>> stupid and that Linux was "ready" 10 years ago for the average
>>> desktop. It doesn't take a genius to work out "average desktop" means
>>> "desktop for the average person" or thereabouts. In another thread we
>>> have the findings of a new recruit who reckons 5 years ago it wasn't
>>> ready and listed why. So, I bring the two together to compare and
>>> contrast. It's not illegal to open ones mind and compare evidence you
>>> know.
>>
>> Fuck off Quark.
>
> Nailed eh Greg?

No, he wasn't.

>
>
>> I used Redhat on my desktop 10 years ago and it was a hell of a lot
>> better
>
> Yes, do did a load of others.
>
> We are not talking about bearded buffoons. We are talking about the
> average desktop user. You know : in offices and things.

.... and how many of them could install windows and have a working machine?

>
> How stupid can you be? I mean really. The man who thinks his Granny
> should read the nntp protocol. Idiot.
>
>> than the Windows it replaced. It took knowledge of your machine to get
>> it installed. Where do you get off misquoting me as saying it was ready
>> for the "average desktop" or whatever?
>
> You did. You argued against my statement that it wasn't ready for the
> average desktop.

Show his words, not your interpretation.

>
>
>> You are becoming humourless. I suggest another holiday from this
>> newsgroup. Do us all a favour.
>
> Who is "us"? You and the other Roybot shills and yes men?
>
>
>> BTW, I still remember your whining about how hard it was to install
>> ubuntu.
>
> You do? Where? What I said was that I couldnt get HW acceleration
> working. I had to buy a new Video card. I also said I had hell of a
> problem with sound. It now works - generally. AC97.

.... sounds like you had trouble with your install to me.


> Google it up loser
> boy. I also had to buy a new printer and scanner. I also then posted a
> longg advocacy post about a new installation and how I partitioned my
> disks. With facts. Not the bleating sheep "advocacy" that you seem to
> enjoy so much.
>
> I have frequently said how impressed I am with the efforts and the steps
> taken by distros like Ubuntu recently to make the installation process
> easier. Thank god they're not complete twats like you who live in some
> sort of "Linux was perfect" dream world. The facts indicate something
> else. And they are improving things.

You are such a liar.

>
>> If you can't handle it then go back to windows.
>
> More bullshit from Gregory. I am more than happy with my Linux
> installation. Because I don't feel the need to lie about when Linux was
> ready doesn't mean I don't like it. But that it always the attack
> direction taken by zealots like yourself : lie and lie again. Sooner or
> later it will be true.

All of your bleating is from YOUR interpretation of "ready". By your
interpretation only MacOS was "ready.

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Rick

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:52:28 +1000, Gregory Shearman wrote:

> Rick wrote:
>
>> AND AGAIN, that had nothing to do with SomeBloke's post. If you have a
>> beef with Gregory Shearman, why don't you go argue with him in the
>> thread you claim he made the statements which have you so riled up.
>
> I'm sorry about Quark. If you beat him around the head he tends to fly
> off the handle and attack the next person who comes along.

.... seems so.

--
Rick

It was on, or about, Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:07:21 +0000, that as I was
halfway through a large jam doughnut, Rick wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:52:24 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Gregory Shearman <ZekeGregory.RemoveThis@netscape.net> writes:
>>
>>> Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> Let me explain : in one thread we have Mr Shearman telling me I'm too
>>>> stupid and that Linux was "ready" 10 years ago for the average
>>>> desktop. It doesn't take a genius to work out "average desktop" means
>>>> "desktop for the average person" or thereabouts. In another thread we
>>>> have the findings of a new recruit who reckons 5 years ago it wasn't
>>>> ready and listed why. So, I bring the two together to compare and
>>>> contrast. It's not illegal to open ones mind and compare evidence you
>>>> know.
>>>
>>> Fuck off Quark.
>>
>> Nailed eh Greg?
>
> No, he wasn't.
>
>
>>
>>> I used Redhat on my desktop 10 years ago and it was a hell of a lot
>>> better
>>
>> Yes, do did a load of others.
>>
>> We are not talking about bearded buffoons. We are talking about the
>> average desktop user. You know : in offices and things.
>
> ... and how many of them could install windows and have a working
> machine?

None. They generally have to pick up a phone & ask for assistance from IT.

>> How stupid can you be? I mean really. The man who thinks his Granny
>> should read the nntp protocol. Idiot.
>>
>>> than the Windows it replaced. It took knowledge of your machine to get
>>> it installed. Where do you get off misquoting me as saying it was
>>> ready for the "average desktop" or whatever?
>>
>> You did. You argued against my statement that it wasn't ready for the
>> average desktop.
>
> Show his words, not your interpretation.
>
>
>>
>>> You are becoming humourless. I suggest another holiday from this
>>> newsgroup. Do us all a favour.
>>
>> Who is "us"? You and the other Roybot shills and yes men?

He means the linux advocates & *users*, not the M$ shills like Quack.

>>> BTW, I still remember your whining about how hard it was to install
>>> ubuntu.
>>
>> You do? Where? What I said was that I couldnt get HW acceleration
>> working. I had to buy a new Video card. I also said I had hell of a
>> problem with sound. It now works - generally. AC97.
>
> ... sounds like you had trouble with your install to me.

And to me. Seems he had to ask few questions in an ubuntu ng
too.....err...but hasn't he claimed to have used linux for two years, &
he's an "expert"?
http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.os.linux.ubuntu/
c_media_ac_97_problems_45348021m.html#45348021

>> Google it up loser
>> boy. I also had to buy a new printer and scanner. I also then posted a
>> longg advocacy post about a new installation and how I partitioned my
>> disks. With facts. Not the bleating sheep "advocacy" that you seem to
>> enjoy so much.
>>
>> I have frequently said how impressed I am with the efforts and the
>> steps taken by distros like Ubuntu recently to make the installation
>> process easier. Thank god they're not complete twats like you who live
>> in some sort of "Linux was perfect" dream world. The facts indicate
>> something else. And they are improving things.
>
> You are such a liar.

He is.

>>> If you can't handle it then go back to windows.
>>
>> More bullshit from Gregory. I am more than happy with my Linux
>> installation. Because I don't feel the need to lie about when Linux was
>> ready doesn't mean I don't like it. But that it always the attack
>> direction taken by zealots like yourself : lie and lie again. Sooner or
>> later it will be true.
>
> All of your bleating is from YOUR interpretation of "ready". By your
> interpretation only MacOS was "ready.

By his interpretation, his beloved windows certainly *wasn't* ready.

Oh, yeah, & there is this about Quack:
"Hadron appears to get a rush from mis-reading people and blaming his
confusion on them instead of his abysmal reading comprehension."
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu
From: "s. keeling" <keeling.RemoveThis@nucleus.com>
Subject: Re: Slackware too hard for me ..
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:09:59 GMT

Now, anyone noticed how he blames people in this ng for HIS abysmal
reading comprehension & confusion?

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Hadron wrote:

> Let me explain : in one thread we have Mr Shearman telling me I'm too
> stupid and that Linux was "ready" 10 years ago for the average
> desktop. It doesn't take a genius to work out "average desktop" means
> "desktop for the average person" or thereabouts. In another thread we
> have the findings of a new recruit who reckons 5 years ago it wasn't
> ready and listed why. So, I bring the two together to compare and
> contrast. It's not illegal to open ones mind and compare evidence you
> know.

Fuck off Quark.

I used Redhat on my desktop 10 years ago and it was a hell of a lot better
than the Windows it replaced. It took knowledge of your machine to get it
installed. Where do you get off misquoting me as saying it was ready for
the "average desktop" or whatever?

You are becoming humourless. I suggest another holiday from this newsgroup.
Do us all a favour.

BTW, I still remember your whining about how hard it was to install ubuntu.
If you can't handle it then go back to windows.

--
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

It was on, or about, Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:43:34 +1000, that as I was
halfway through a large jam doughnut, Gregory Shearman wrote:

> William Poaster wrote:
>
>> Do you get the feeling Quack's smoking something....
>
> Nah, that's just his brain overheating, poor fellow. He needs a new
> propeller hat.

As I posted elsewhere:-
From: "s. keeling" <keeling.TakeThisOut@nucleus.com>
Subject: Re: Slackware too hard for me ...
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.ubuntu

"Hadron appears to get a rush from mis-reading people and blaming his
confusion on them instead of his abysmal reading comprehension."

And that nails it on the head, IMO. He's a dumbass, & hasn't a clue wtf
he's reading.

If you want to read it all:-
http://www.nnseek.com/e/alt.os.linux.ubuntu/
slackware_too_hard_for_me_41028789m.html#41028789

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The universe exploded out of nothingness 14 billion years ago.
14 billion years later, & some of us have 100 trillion
interconnected cells, & a self-aware consciousness.
Others post through GoogleGroups, & insist on installing Vista.

William Poaster wrote:

> Do you get the feeling Quack's smoking something....

Nah, that's just his brain overheating, poor fellow. He needs a new
propeller hat.

--
Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

It was on, or about, Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:52:28 +1000, that as I was
halfway through a large jam doughnut, Gregory Shearman wrote:

> Rick wrote:
>
>> AND AGAIN, that had nothing to do with SomeBloke's post. If you have a
>> beef with Gregory Shearman, why don't you go argue with him in the
>> thread you claim he made the statements which have you so riled up.
>
> I'm sorry about Quark. If you beat him around the head he tends to fly
> off the handle and attack the next person who comes along.

He's got abysmal reading comprehension, & gets confused & frustrated.
Probably using XP rotted his brain.

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14 billion years later, & some of us have 100 trillion
interconnected cells, & a self-aware consciousness.
Others post through GoogleGroups, & insist on installing Vista.

It was on, or about, Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:04:57 +1000, that as I was
halfway through a large jam doughnut, Gregory Shearman wrote:

> William Poaster wrote:
>
>> Quack doesn't like losing an argument, & GS got the better of him. So
>> he drags the argument into another thread. Another trooll tactic!
>
> Nah, I keep niggling him about how much trouble he had installing
> ubuntu. He obviously got a bit upset.

Um, yeah, but isn't he some sort of "expert"? He claims he's been using
linux for two years....

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Hadron wrote:

> AB <fardblossom DeleteThis @gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On 2007-07-25, William Poaster <wp DeleteThis @kubuntu704-1.eu> claimed:
>>
>>> Like Quack knows, he's only been using it for TWO years.
>>> The idiot's blowing it out of his arse again.
>>
>> I doubt he even used linux thatlong, Unless maybe he means _dog_
>> years.
>
> hahahahahha. Good one. Really funny.
>
> You guys crack me up.
>
> About one in a thousand using Linux on their desktop and you still
> refuse to acknowledge it had "acceptance" issues.
>
> It was a DOG to install and you know it.

Used to take me about 1 hour to install Redhat 6.1.

What would YOU know... you have trouble installing trouble-free ubuntu.

> Now is different because people with an open mind, like Shuttleworth,
> came in, acknowledged the issues and FIXED THEM.

What a guy! He can have my baby!

> You guys are as likely to attract people to Linux as a Shark is to
> encourage people in for a swim.

We keep snapping, but you keep on trying to swim here.... oh well... there's
always tomorrow.

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Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

Hadron wrote:

> I agree "today" it generally works. We were talking about 10 years
> ago. But apparently "it all worked" for you. Frankly I dont believe you
> unless you had very "special" HW.

Ohhh.. VERY special... Pentium 1 64M memory...

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Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

Rick wrote:

> AND AGAIN, that had nothing to do with SomeBloke's post. If you have a
> beef with Gregory Shearman, why don't you go argue with him in the thread
> you claim he made the statements which have you so riled up.

I'm sorry about Quark. If you beat him around the head he tends to fly off
the handle and attack the next person who comes along.

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Regards,

Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

waterskidoo wrote:

> So if you're asking if average Joe could go out and replace
> his Windows desktop with a Linux desktop seamlessly, more or less,
> ten years ago I would say not really or at least not with some
> effort on the part of the user to pick and choose.

Why not? I'm an average joe.... a bit of a nerdy average joe and I installed
it and learned it. It only takes APPLICATION to the task, not brains.

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Gregory.
Gentoo Linux - Penguin Power

It was on, or about, Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:50:15 +1000, that as I was
halfway through a large jam doughnut, Gregory Shearman wrote:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>> I agree "today" it generally works. We were talking about 10 years ago.
>> But apparently "it all worked" for you. Frankly I dont believe you
>> unless you had very "special" HW.
>
> Ohhh.. VERY special... Pentium 1 64M memory...

IIRC mine was on a 486DX with 32MB RAM.

--
The universe exploded out of nothingness 14 billion years ago.
14 billion years later, & some of us have 100 trillion
interconnected cells, & a self-aware consciousness.
Others post through GoogleGroups, & insist on installing Vista.