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Since: Nov 17, 2006
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:00 pm
Post subject: Bug#427097: alpine: No default posting method
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Package: alpine
Version: 0.99+dfsg-1
Severity: minor
There seems to be no default posting method (surely should be
sendmail?): if I try sending mail with no smtp server or posting command
set, which should just use the system default, presumably sendmail, I
get the error: "Error sending: no default posting command."
-- System Information:
Debian Release: lenny/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: i386 (i686)
Kernel: Linux 2.6.18-4-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF- 
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Versions of packages alpine depends on:
ii libc6 2.5-9+b1 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii libldap2 2.1.30-13.4 OpenLDAP libraries
ii libncurses5 5.5-5 Shared libraries for terminal hand
ii libpam0g 0.79-4 Pluggable Authentication Modules l
ii libssl0.9.8 0.9.8e-4 SSL shared libraries
alpine recommends no packages.
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Since: May 05, 2007
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:40 am
Post subject: Bug#427097: alpine: No default posting method [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:52:03PM +0200, Reuben Thomas wrote:
> There seems to be no default posting method (surely should be
> sendmail?): if I try sending mail with no smtp server or posting command
> set, which should just use the system default, presumably sendmail, I
> get the error: "Error sending: no default posting command."
I agree: Debian should, for example, ship an /etc/pine.conf containing
something like
sendmail-path=/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -t -oi
I couldn't find any doc for this, but the closest I found, <URL:
http://stuff.mit.edu/afs/sipb.mit.edu/project/alpine/alpine-0.99-virgi...oc/tech
> claims that "For UNIX Alpine, if neither smtp-server or
sendmail-path is set, the default sendmail program is invoked with the
"-bs -odb -oem" flags, and the message is sent using the SMTP
protocol." Which would be reasonable, except that it seems to be
wrong: Alpine just stupidly complains that it doesnt know how to send
mail.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:50 am
Post subject: Bug#427097: alpine: No default posting method [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, David Madore wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 11:52:03PM +0200, Reuben Thomas wrote:
>> There seems to be no default posting method (surely should be
>> sendmail?): if I try sending mail with no smtp server or posting command
>> set, which should just use the system default, presumably sendmail, I
>> get the error: "Error sending: no default posting command."
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> I agree: Debian should, for example, ship an /etc/pine.conf containing
> something like
Have you checked on the current alpine? I vaguely remember thinking
about fixing it.
If it still doesn't work, a build-depend on sendmail should do the job,
and I'll add that and upload a new package release.
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Since: Jan 10, 2004
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:10 am
Post subject: Bug#427097: alpine: No default posting method [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Asheesh Laroia wrote:
> a build-depend on sendmail should do the job,
That would be a bad solution, IMHO.
AFAIK, sendmail does not provide any .h files against which alpine
should compile, so if there is something in alpine build that you want
to be different, it is almost sure that there will be a way to achieve
it without a build-depends on sendmail.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:10 am
Post subject: Bug#427097: alpine: No default posting method [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 05:35:36PM +0900, Asheesh Laroia wrote:
> Have you checked on the current alpine? I vaguely remember thinking
> about fixing it.
I checked 0.99999+dfsg-1 from unstable.
> If it still doesn't work, a build-depend on sendmail should do the job,
> and I'll add that and upload a new package release.
You mean it uses sendmail by default provided that was available at
compile time? Yikes!
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:20 am
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Asheesh Laroia wrote:
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>> a build-depend on sendmail should do the job,
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> That would be a bad solution, IMHO.
>
> AFAIK, sendmail does not provide any .h files against which alpine
> should compile, so if there is something in alpine build that you want
> to be different, it is almost sure that there will be a way to achieve
> it without a build-depends on sendmail.
All it does is have the ./configure (or equivalent) check for the
existence of a sendmail and enable this by default if there is one. So I
figured build-depending on it would be reasonable, but if you think using
the ./configure option is better then I can do that.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:40 am
Post subject: Bug#427097: alpine: No default posting method [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Asheesh Laroia wrote:
> >
> > > a build-depend on sendmail should do the job,
> >
> > That would be a bad solution, IMHO.
> >
> > AFAIK, sendmail does not provide any .h files against which alpine
> > should compile, so if there is something in alpine build that you want
> > to be different, it is almost sure that there will be a way to achieve
> > it without a build-depends on sendmail.
>
> All it does is have the ./configure (or equivalent) check for the existence of
> a sendmail and enable this by default if there is one. So I figured
> build-depending on it would be reasonable, but if you think using the
> ./configure option is better then I can do that.
You can hardcode the check and make it think sendmail is available,
even if it's not. It would be a hack, but not bigger than a
build-depends on sendmail. sendmail is a MTA, you should not really
need it on the build machine.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:00 am
Post subject: Bug#427097: alpine: No default posting method [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, David Madore wrote:
> I couldn't find any doc for this, but the closest I found, <URL:
> http://stuff.mit.edu/afs/sipb.mit.edu/project/alpine/alpine-0.99-virgi...oc/tech
> > claims that "For UNIX Alpine, if neither smtp-server or
> sendmail-path is set, the default sendmail program is invoked with the
> "-bs -odb -oem" flags, and the message is sent using the SMTP
> protocol." Which would be reasonable, except that it seems to be
> wrong: Alpine just stupidly complains that it doesnt know how to send
> mail.
I believe the documentation is correct, it's just that the Debian patch
currently disables the default.
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