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On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 17:27:03 +0200, houghi wrote:

> Rick wrote:
>>> neither openSUSE nor Novell have a budget for that. It goes into the
>>> millions of EUR.
>>
>> Novell doesn't have the money to hand out CDs, but Canonical does?
>> There is something wrong with that picture.
>
> Why do you think that?
>
> Mark Shuttleworth is willing to pick up all the bills it can think of.
> That is where Canonical gets its money from.
>
> Now if you (or anybody else) is willing to pick up the bills of sending
> out free openSUSE CDs, I am sure everybody working with the openSUSE
> project will be very happy.
>
> houghi

Canonical has a number of revenue streams. They have revenue in the
millions, so it is not just Shuttleworth's money that is paying the bills.

--
Rick

houghi wrote:
> Vahis wrote:
>> My cat has made it six years and I've been running KDE about that time.
>> Both are alive and kicking as we speak.
>>
>> So you got no proof.
>
> I have NO cat, so mine was killed by somebody starting up GNOME, perhaps
> you. I also don't have a dog, because KDE people killed the puppy.
>
> Obviously starting KDE or GNOME does not kill YOUR puppy or kitten, it
> kills A puppy or kitten. Imagine the face of the kid that is playing
> with his new puppy or kitten and suddenly mommy and daddy need to
> explain why the animal is not moving anymore.
>
> That kid will grow up frustrated with an anger in the world and wil
> become a terrorist.
>
> So not only do you not think of the children, you als sponsor
> terrorists.

It's even more complicated than that:
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20090405

....Kevin
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Kevin Miller - http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
Juneau, Alaska
In a recent survey, 7 out of 10 hard drives preferred Linux
Registered Linux User No: 307357, http://counter.li.org

On Sat, 26 Sep 2009 19:40:59 +0200, houghi wrote:

> Rick wrote:
>> Canonical has a number of revenue streams. They have revenue in the
>> millions, so it is not just Shuttleworth's money that is paying the
>> bills.
>
> So you know they have revenue in the millions. You are aware of that and
> yet you think it is strange that they have the money to do so? You are
> weird.
>
> houghi

I am aware that Novell has millions of dollars in revenue, too. And the
Canonical comment was in repsonse to your implication that all Canonical
had was Shuttleworth's money.

--
Rick

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On 2009-09-26, houghi <houghi.DeleteThis@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
> Vahis wrote:
>> What's the bootable Moblin live CD/USB? What's underneath the GUI there?
>
> No idea. You are the one with the Netbook. I only saw it in use.

No idea here either. I couldn't boot it.
EeePC 900 is not supported in moblin 2.1 Live.

There is an openSUSE 2.0 beta as installable image but I'm not
installing it over a perfectly running system while I only got this one
netbook.

Vahis
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Vahis wrote:
> On 2009-09-26, houghi <houghi.RemoveThis@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
>> Vahis wrote:
>>> What's the bootable Moblin live CD/USB? What's underneath the GUI there?
>> No idea. You are the one with the Netbook. I only saw it in use.
>
> No idea here either. I couldn't boot it.
> EeePC 900 is not supported in moblin 2.1 Live.

Just out of curiousity.....if you burnt your own CD via the img from the
Moblin site, did you have to set your burner software for overburning?
Tried burning a copy here but my burner software barfed due to "not
enough space". Didn't persuse the issue at the time but probably will
get back to exploring it a bit more in a day or so.

>
> There is an openSUSE 2.0 beta as installable image but I'm not
> installing it over a perfectly running system while I only got this one
> netbook.

Tried it out of curosity in a VirtualBox session on my openSUSE 11.1 box
but the video barfed, primarily I suspect due to the non-intel graphics
card I have in that machine. I have an Intel graphics card on my laptop
but am going to use a Moblin CD for testing purposes on that unit.

> and yes, I have the dough

You must have with a Mac Pro especially if you got the 16GB of RAM
from Apple!

Not that rich...
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Mac-Pro-Memory

On Sep 26, 8:58 am, houghi <hou... RemoveThis @houghi.org.invalid> wrote:

> They catch people the AOL way. By giving away free disks.

Q. What's the difference between an Ubuntu user and an AOL user?

A. About 12 years or so.

On 2009-09-26, Kevin Miller <atftb2 RemoveThis @alaska.net> wrote:
> houghi wrote:
>> Vahis wrote:
>>> My cat has made it six years and I've been running KDE about that time.
>>> Both are alive and kicking as we speak.
>>>
>>> So you got no proof.
>>
>> I have NO cat, so mine was killed by somebody starting up GNOME, perhaps
>> you. I also don't have a dog, because KDE people killed the puppy.
>>
>> Obviously starting KDE or GNOME does not kill YOUR puppy or kitten, it
>> kills A puppy or kitten. Imagine the face of the kid that is playing
>> with his new puppy or kitten and suddenly mommy and daddy need to
>> explain why the animal is not moving anymore.
>>
>> That kid will grow up frustrated with an anger in the world and wil
>> become a terrorist.
>>
>> So not only do you not think of the children, you als sponsor
>> terrorists.
>
> It's even more complicated than that:
> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20090405
>

The word Red Hat in the last frame should be replaced with SUSE Studio.

Vahis
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houghi wrote:
> In reality there are only two. RPM and DEB. However each distro has
> other desires and differences.

..tgz (nowadays .txz) for Slackware (and deratives).
It LOOKS like a normal compressed tar file, but there are post-install
scripts in there, which the Slackware installer will process.
--
Eef Hartman, Delft University of Technology, dept. SSC/ICT

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