suse verses ubuntu

RSWood wrote:
>
> SUSE's KDE is usually better than the others (although I'm told the latest
> Fedora has done a better job with KDE4).

That's got more to do with the freeze dates for particular distro
releases than anything else.
openSUSE 11.1 comes with KDE4.1, fedora 11 with KDE4.2.2, but according
to reports KDE4.3 is far superior to either. I'm still using 3.5...



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Chris Cox wrote:
>
> I'd like to see an ARM based netbook-like thing, but fear that the
> ARM product is forever locked into dedicate purpose devices like
> PMPs, smart phones, etc.
>
> The reason? No windows (apart from WinCE).

If linux on netbooks had been done properly (some did, but most didn't)
and hadn't been subject to very aggressive marketing by Microsoft
(giving XP netbook edition away, allegedly) it would have prospered.
It's ideal for this sort of machine. Nobody's going to want to run
AutoCAD on a netbook


> Refurbed netbooks, because they aren't powerful enough for the new M$
> stuff, are coming down to the $150 - 200USD range.

A true bring-anywhere machine should cost no more than that, new.


> And while some will disagree, my own testing shows the N270 to be about
> on par with the older Pentium-M at 1.2 - 1.4Ghz or thereabouts. Too
> shallow for many Windows users, but ideal for a Linux box.

Up until last year I was still regularly using a 750MHz Athlon-based
machine with openSUSE 10.3 / 11.0 and the full KDE3 desktop. Not speedy,
but usable.




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Ulick Magee wrote:

>> Refurbed netbooks, because they aren't powerful enough for the new M$
>> stuff, are coming down to the $150 - 200USD range.
>
> A true bring-anywhere machine should cost no more than that, new.

Whoops. 150-200 euro not US$




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PHT wrote:
> I have noticed a lot of outfits are using Ubuntu. Dell is offering it.
> Anyone know how Ubuntu stacks up against Suse.
> Wondering what the major differences are. I am still going to use Suse,
> but have been thinking about putting Ubuntu on as a second OS and seeing
> how it works. But what to get some input about it first.
>
> Paul T.
>

I went back and forth for a while. When I had a problem with one, I
would wipe it and install the other. I ran Ubuntu for a little while
but the last time I was trying to install Nvidia drivers and the whole
thing crashed, Now I'm back to OpenSuse 11.1.
I tried OpenSuse 11.2 Milestone 6 with KDE4 as a virtual machine with
Virtualbox and I like it. I think 11.2 will be really good.

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:31:59 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:

> Now I'm back to OpenSuse 11.1.

But you give the impression with

> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812)

that you are back to Windows.

Or did you never really leave it?

J G Miller wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:31:59 -0400, Van Chocstraw wrote:
>
> > Now I'm back to OpenSuse 11.1.
>
> But you give the impression with
>
>> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812)
>
> that you are back to Windows.
>
> Or did you never really leave it?


Ahhh, yes...once again the overblown, trite, inane, pointless, defensive
<I'm sure youse is getting the idea by now> question is thrust as an
accusation.

<YAWN>

God, ya'd think some rascals would have something better to do with
their time.......

houghi wrote:
> Adam S. wrote:
>> PHT wrote:
>>> I have noticed a lot of outfits are using Ubuntu. Dell is offering it.
>>> Anyone know how Ubuntu stacks up against Suse.
>>> Wondering what the major differences are. I am still going to use Suse,
>>> but have been thinking about putting Ubuntu on as a second OS and seeing
>>> how it works. But what to get some input about it first.
>>>
>>> Paul T.
>>>
>> ubuntu for the desktop, openSuSE or CentOS for the server
>
> *Ubuntu for people who like debian packaging.
> openSUSE for people who like RPM packaging.
> SUSE Studio for those who like to build their own distro.
> SUSE LE for people who like to run a server and want up to 7 years
> security updates (and are willing to pay for it)
> CentOS for those who are cheap and are not willing to pay for all the
> hard work that RedHat put into it.
>
> If you want a cheap verrsion of an official Server release, go to SUSE
> Studio and build your own, or just download the version.
>
>> in other words:
>> if you have $$$ and have no clue, get a MAC
>> if you have no $, and know your way, get Linux.
>
> If you have money and a clue, run Linux on a MAC.
>
>> If you have $ $$ $$$, and want to throw it away, get Windows.
>
> If you have applications you need on a day to day basis, do that as
> well.
>
> So seems you are wrong on several accounts.
>
> houghi

Na. I will stick to my MacPro dual boot with Ubuntu. kicks ass with 16
GB RAM.

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On Sep 24, 7:01 pm, PHT <no-spam-linux-u....DeleteThis@comcast.net> wrote:
> I have noticed a lot of outfits are using Ubuntu. Dell is offering it.
> Anyone know how Ubuntu stacks up against Suse.

Think Debian, but really dumbed down so that an install and setup is
pretty much brainless. You'd think that would be nice but I found it
kind of scary. Since it's based on Debian it does have apt and
synaptic for fast easy package management similar to YaST's installer.
The similarity to YaST ends there though. Instead of YaST they have
MaST (Missing a Setup Tool). You also have to remember that just like
it's big-brother/dad/inbreed-cousin Debian it also uses deb's, but
unfortunately not Deb deb's. This can cause just a tad of confusion
for some. Looking at the way which users flood the Ubuntu forums with
problems, and any other place that they can be heard for that matter,
it leads me to believe that it's not quite as rock stable as Debian.
Then on top of all this you have Gnome to klunk it up and puke a bunch
of ugly all over it.

I wasn't impressed. Too dumbed down. It felt like I was using Linux
For Dummies - On Disk!

On 2009-09-25, houghi <houghi.TakeThisOut@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
> Vahis wrote:
>> What netbook have you tried it on? I've been thinking of putting a live
>> moblin image on a stick and try it on my Asus EeePC 900.
>> Ever tried that?
>
> I only have seen it in action. Was on the EeePC 901. Not even sure if it
> will work on the 900.
> http://moblin.org/documentation/test-drive-moblin/using-moblin-live-image
> There the 901 is mentioned, not the 900
>
>>>I would not use it on anything else. Just
>>> as other Linux distributions is great for a portable/Dektop/Server, but
>>> not good for a netbook.
>>
>> Not sure if my Asus EeePC 900 is a netbook.
>> If it is, then you've got that one wrong.
>
> I ment to say: "not as good as moblin". The reason is the size of the
> screen. It works, but Moblin, I think, works much better for that
> screensize and if you use it as a secondary PC.

The screen is 1024×600@60
X=196, Y=114 in millimeters.

You configure it the way you want within its physical restrictions.

Can some other distro than openSUSE make it bigger?
I don't see how

Vahis
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houghi wrote:
> Adam S. wrote:
>> houghi wrote:
> <snip>
>>> *Ubuntu for people who like debian packaging.
> <snip>
>>> If you have money and a clue, run Linux on a MAC.
> <snip>
>> Na. I will stick to my MacPro dual boot with Ubuntu. kicks ass with 16
>> GB RAM.
>
> What are you disagreeing with me for? Apparently you are somebody woth a
> clue and money who likes debian packaging.
>
> houghi

Do not run windows unless you have no choice, I could say about openSuSE
what you say about CentOS, and yes, I have the dough + i like Debian .

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