suse verses ubuntu

PHT wrote:
> I have noticed a lot of outfits are using Ubuntu. Dell is offering it.
> Anyone know how Ubuntu stacks up against Suse.
> Wondering what the major differences are. I am still going to use Suse,
> but have been thinking about putting Ubuntu on as a second OS and seeing
> how it works. But what to get some input about it first.
>
> Paul T.
>

ubuntu for the desktop, openSuSE or CentOS for the server
in other words:
if you have $$$ and have no clue, get a MAC
if you have no $, and know your way, get Linux.
If you have $ $$ $$$, and want to throw it away, get Windows.

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Adam S.

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:01:04 GMT, PHT wrote:

> I have noticed a lot of outfits are using Ubuntu. Dell is offering it.
> Anyone know how Ubuntu stacks up against Suse.
> Wondering what the major differences are. I am still going to use Suse,
> but have been thinking about putting Ubuntu on as a second OS and seeing
> how it works. But what to get some input about it first.
>
> Paul T.

Try a Ubuntu or Kubuntu [KDE] live CD to find out, they come in 32bit
and 64bit CD's; oh..and Xubuntu with Xfce desktop in either x86/amd64 as
live CD's.

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Patrick....
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ray <ray.DeleteThis@zianet.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:01:04 +0000, PHT wrote:

>> I have noticed a lot of outfits are using Ubuntu. Dell is offering it.
>> Anyone know how Ubuntu stacks up against Suse. Wondering what the major
>> differences are. I am still going to use Suse, but have been thinking
>> about putting Ubuntu on as a second OS and seeing how it works. But what
>> to get some input about it first.
>>
>> Paul T.

>Ubuntu uses Gnome. Ubuntu, being based on Debian, uses Debian Package
>Management. Ubuntu also releases versions on a schedule - in April and
>October each year. AFAIK - they've only missed that once.

I have Ubuntu on two laptops that just would not go with openSUSE 11.1

I'd say that Ubuntu is far more Windows-like than I care for. Everything
is made simple, meaning that you have to do most things their way
and not your way.

But if all you are doing is surfing the web and reading newsgroups it
is just fine indeed. I'd not much care to have to write programs
on it.

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--- Paul J. Gans

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:45:01 +0000, Paul J Gans wrote:

> ray <ray.RemoveThis@zianet.com> wrote:
>>On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:01:04 +0000, PHT wrote:
>
>>> I have noticed a lot of outfits are using Ubuntu. Dell is offering it.
>>> Anyone know how Ubuntu stacks up against Suse. Wondering what the
>>> major differences are. I am still going to use Suse, but have been
>>> thinking about putting Ubuntu on as a second OS and seeing how it
>>> works. But what to get some input about it first.
>>>
>>> Paul T.
>
>>Ubuntu uses Gnome. Ubuntu, being based on Debian, uses Debian Package
>>Management. Ubuntu also releases versions on a schedule - in April and
>>October each year. AFAIK - they've only missed that once.
>
> I have Ubuntu on two laptops that just would not go with openSUSE 11.1
>
> I'd say that Ubuntu is far more Windows-like than I care for.
> Everything is made simple, meaning that you have to do most things
> their way and not your way.

I haven't really had that feeling at all. For example, several ways to do
software installation/updates - from the command line or using synaptic
(which I prefer).

>
> But if all you are doing is surfing the web and reading newsgroups it is
> just fine indeed. I'd not much care to have to write programs on it.

I wonder why - I've done a bit and did not find anything getting in my
way.

Paul J Gans inscribed forevermore utilizing silicon chips::

> I have Ubuntu on two laptops that just would not go with openSUSE 11.1

Surprisingly, I have found little that Ubuntu would even boot on where
openSuse works perfectly. Knoppix seems to work with almost everything
thrown at it.

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Later,
Darrell

ray (in alt.os.linux.suse):

> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:01:04 +0000, PHT wrote:
>
>> I have noticed a lot of outfits are using Ubuntu. Dell is offering it.
>> Anyone know how Ubuntu stacks up against Suse. Wondering what the major
>> differences are. I am still going to use Suse, but have been thinking
>> about putting Ubuntu on as a second OS and seeing how it works. But what
>> to get some input about it first.
>>
>> Paul T.
>
> Ubuntu uses Gnome.

There's a KDE version of Ubuntu, too.

Joachim

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On 2009-09-25, houghi <houghi.RemoveThis@houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
> ray wrote:
>> I haven't really had that feeling at all. For example, several ways to do
>> software installation/updates - from the command line or using synaptic
>> (which I prefer).
>
> Command line is available under openSUSE as well with zypper or YaST or
> OCICLI or rpm or some other ways.
>
> I never used synaptic, so what is the advantage (I understand that is a
> personal view) of it over the GUI YaST installer?

Running Ubuntu on one desktop and a notebook and SuSE 11.1 on another
desktop and doing mostly programming, I can't say the difference is
huge. Zypper is a bit more friendly than having to choose between
apt-get and apt-cache which doesn't accept command abbreviations.
synaptic is comparable to YaST for finding and installing software.
Overall, I have the impression that there is more available for Ubuntu
(but not much). I also think it is a bit easier to find canned
answers to problems for Ubuntu on the net in forums, howtos, etc.

>>> But if all you are doing is surfing the web and reading newsgroups it is
>>> just fine indeed. I'd not much care to have to write programs on it.
>>
>> I wonder why - I've done a bit and did not find anything getting in my
>> way.
>
> I wonder why as well. You can even use the OBS to build stuff for it and
> in general if you make software for Linux (and not are into package
> building) there should be no huge difference.
> configure && make && make install

Indeed, plain nonsense. All programmers tools and development libraries
are available for Ubuntu and they are the same tools (99%).

> Package building is something else though.

Didn't try that sofar

Overall, I think I rate Ubuntu a bit higher than SuSE at the moment,
This is in part related to the KDE4 issues and in part because I had
less trouble getting all hardware to run on Ubuntu.

--- Jan

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On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 00:01 +0000, PHT wrote:
> I have noticed a lot of outfits are using Ubuntu. Dell is offering it.
> Anyone know how Ubuntu stacks up against Suse.
> Wondering what the major differences are. I am still going to use Suse,
> but have been thinking about putting Ubuntu on as a second OS and seeing
> how it works. But what to get some input about it first.

Well... comparing Ubuntu vs oS 11.1 isn't all that great. With that
said, you CAN make oS 11.1 work quite well, but it was NOT a stellar
release for openSUSE.

I'd try both out. But again, not sure if oS 11.1 is the best example
from the openSUSE side. I'm hoping that 11.2 hits one out of the park.

Frankly, I get frustrated more when I use Ubuntu. But I find the
average user has no problem at all. So YMMV.

Ubuntu tries a bit too hard to hide important things... so when it
fails, it fails hard.

On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 16:34 +0200, houghi wrote:
> central wrote:
> > I use Ubuntu on my netbook and SWMBO's laptop - *real* machines have
> > suse...
>
> Netbook? I saw a presentation of Moblin. Looked very, very nice.
> http://moblin.org/

Moblin works fine as long as you want to arbitraily restrict your OS..
which is pretty much Intel's intent with Moblin (keep the netbooks from
cutting into the notebook market where Intel's margins are higher).

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