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Andreas Bourges

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Since: Dec 22, 2008
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:20 pm
Post subject: missing application icons
Archived from groups: linux>debian>maint>kde (more info?)
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Hi,

....I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care on it.
Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that time) unofficial
source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the application icons in kde.

My current system: debian/sid using kde 4.2.2

It's most probably a misconfiguration of my kde system, since for example
okular for sure has an application icon coming along with it...


applications affected (just to name a few):

- - okular
- - gwenview
- - kgpg
....


Other applications (e.g. konqueror, Konsole, kmail, ...) show the correct
icons?! As already mentioned - this is the case since a really long time and I
think it's more an update-though-several-sources-bug than a packaging bug Wink

My current desktop settings:

- - widget style: oxygen
- - theme: oxygen
- - icon size: 48

Thanks for any hint to trace this...

andy

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Luis Felipe Tabera

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:20 pm
Post subject: Re: missing application icons [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Thursday 14 May 2009 15:50:34 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care on it.
> Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that time) unofficial
> source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the application icons in kde.
>
> My current system: debian/sid using kde 4.2.2
>
> It's most probably a misconfiguration of my kde system, since for example
> okular for sure has an application icon coming along with it...

Try deleting (or moving to another place if there are things you want to keep)
the ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory, specially if you have installed custom icon
themes.

At least this worked for me, meny icons reappeared.

Luis


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 3:20 pm
Post subject: Re: missing application icons [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi,

> > ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care on
> > it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that time)
> > unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the application
> > icons in kde.

> Try deleting (or moving to another place if there are things you want to
> keep) the ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory, specially if you have installed
> custom icon themes.

thanks for you tipp - but it didn't help - still seeing a lot of question-
marks instead of icons Sad ~/.kde/share/icons isn't re-created when moved away
- - so it seems to be a system-wide problem ?!

Andy

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:20 pm
Post subject: Re: missing application icons [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi,

short update - tried a new user, still missing icons. When I use the menu
editor to assign a new icon, e.g. for okular, it's not found in the
applications-icons-section Sad

Andy


On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:52:02 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> - gpg control packet
> Hi,
>
> > > ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care on
> > > it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that time)
> > > unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the application
> > > icons in kde.
> >
> > Try deleting (or moving to another place if there are things you want to
> > keep) the ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory, specially if you have installed
> > custom icon themes.
>
> thanks for you tipp - but it didn't help - still seeing a lot of question-
> marks instead of icons Sad ~/.kde/share/icons isn't re-created when moved
> away - so it seems to be a system-wide problem ?!
>
> Andy
>
> --
> Andreas Bourges
> CCIE #6947 (R&S,C&S)
> GSM: +49 178 7072022
> e-mail: andreas.bourges DeleteThis @isarnet.de
>
> http://www.isarnet.de
> http://www.isarflow.de
> --------------------------------------------
> IsarFlow Hotline: +49-811-99829-270
> --------------------------------------------
> IsarNet Software Solutions GmbH
> Terminalstrasse Mitte 18
> 85356 Muenchen
> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberding
> Handelsregister Muenchen, HRB 160131
> USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332
> Geschaeftsfuehrung:
> Andreas Perthel, Harald Weikert
> --------------------------------------------

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GSM: +49 178 7072022
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http://www.isarnet.de
http://www.isarflow.de
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- --------------------------------------------
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USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332
Geschaeftsfuehrung:
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- --------------------------------------------



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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:20 am
Post subject: Re: missing application icons [Login to view extended thread Info.]
Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Hi,

....re-installed kde-icons-oxygen, changed to other icon themes - still no
luck.

Interestingly the icon's are in place, e.g.

/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/okular.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/okular.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/okular.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/okular.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/okular.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/okular.svgz
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/okular.png

....part of package okular.

I have no clue where to look next - anyone out there?

Thanks,

Andy

On Thursday 14 May 2009 21:42:53 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> - gpg control packet
> Hi,
>
> short update - tried a new user, still missing icons. When I use the menu
> editor to assign a new icon, e.g. for okular, it's not found in the
> applications-icons-section Sad
>
> Andy
>
> On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:52:02 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> > - gpg control packet
> > Hi,
> >
> > > > ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care
> > > > on it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that time)
> > > > unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the application
> > > > icons in kde.
> > >
> > > Try deleting (or moving to another place if there are things you want
> > > to keep) the ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory, specially if you have
> > > installed custom icon themes.
> >
> > thanks for you tipp - but it didn't help - still seeing a lot of
> > question- marks instead of icons Sad ~/.kde/share/icons isn't re-created
> > when moved away - so it seems to be a system-wide problem ?!
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > --
> > Andreas Bourges
> > CCIE #6947 (R&S,C&S)
> > GSM: +49 178 7072022
> > e-mail: andreas.bourges.DeleteThis@isarnet.de
> >
> > http://www.isarnet.de
> > http://www.isarflow.de
> > --------------------------------------------
> > IsarFlow Hotline: +49-811-99829-270
> > --------------------------------------------
> > IsarNet Software Solutions GmbH
> > Terminalstrasse Mitte 18
> > 85356 Muenchen
> > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberding
> > Handelsregister Muenchen, HRB 160131
> > USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332
> > Geschaeftsfuehrung:
> > Andreas Perthel, Harald Weikert
> > --------------------------------------------
>
> --
> Andreas Bourges
> CCIE #6947 (R&S,C&S)
> GSM: +49 178 7072022
> e-mail: andreas.bourges.DeleteThis@isarnet.de
>
> http://www.isarnet.de
> http://www.isarflow.de
> --------------------------------------------
> IsarFlow Hotline: +49-811-99829-270
> --------------------------------------------
> IsarNet Software Solutions GmbH
> Terminalstrasse Mitte 18
> 85356 Muenchen
> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberding
> Handelsregister Muenchen, HRB 160131
> USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332
> Geschaeftsfuehrung:
> Andreas Perthel, Harald Weikert
> --------------------------------------------

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri May 15, 2009 3:20 am
Post subject: Re: missing application icons [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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....and another one:

just installed kvpnc - which has *plenty* of icons coming along, but most (nut
no all?) of the icons within kvpnc are shown as question-marks:

- - connect - question-mark
- - disconnect - question-mark

but:

- - manage profiles: shown
- - new profile (wizard): shown

maybe an icon search path is missing somewhere (where to look for it?).

Icons on my system are distributed in

/usr/share/icons

/usr/share/kde4/apps/<app>/icons/*

....so for example the missing kvpnc icons are in place:

/usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/locolor/16x16/actions/connecting.png
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/connecting.png
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/locolor/32x32/actions/connecting.png
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/connecting.png
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/connecting.png
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/hicolor/32x32/actions/connecting.png

any hint Smile ?

Thanks,

andy


On Friday 15 May 2009 08:26:26 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> - gpg control packet
> Hi,
>
> ...re-installed kde-icons-oxygen, changed to other icon themes - still no
> luck.
>
> Interestingly the icon's are in place, e.g.
>
> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/okular.png
> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/okular.png
> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/okular.png
> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/okular.png
> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/okular.png
> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/okular.svgz
> /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/okular.png
>
> ...part of package okular.
>
> I have no clue where to look next - anyone out there?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
>
> On Thursday 14 May 2009 21:42:53 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> > - gpg control packet
> > Hi,
> >
> > short update - tried a new user, still missing icons. When I use the menu
> > editor to assign a new icon, e.g. for okular, it's not found in the
> > applications-icons-section Sad
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:52:02 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> > > - gpg control packet
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > > > ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking care
> > > > > on it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at that
> > > > > time) unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of the
> > > > > application icons in kde.
> > > >
> > > > Try deleting (or moving to another place if there are things you want
> > > > to keep) the ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory, specially if you have
> > > > installed custom icon themes.
> > >
> > > thanks for you tipp - but it didn't help - still seeing a lot of
> > > question- marks instead of icons Sad ~/.kde/share/icons isn't re-created
> > > when moved away - so it seems to be a system-wide problem ?!
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andreas Bourges
> > > CCIE #6947 (R&S,C&S)
> > > GSM: +49 178 7072022
> > > e-mail: andreas.bourges DeleteThis @isarnet.de
> > >
> > > http://www.isarnet.de
> > > http://www.isarflow.de
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > IsarFlow Hotline: +49-811-99829-270
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > IsarNet Software Solutions GmbH
> > > Terminalstrasse Mitte 18
> > > 85356 Muenchen
> > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberding
> > > Handelsregister Muenchen, HRB 160131
> > > USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332
> > > Geschaeftsfuehrung:
> > > Andreas Perthel, Harald Weikert
> > > --------------------------------------------
> >
> > --
> > Andreas Bourges
> > CCIE #6947 (R&S,C&S)
> > GSM: +49 178 7072022
> > e-mail: andreas.bourges DeleteThis @isarnet.de
> >
> > http://www.isarnet.de
> > http://www.isarflow.de
> > --------------------------------------------
> > IsarFlow Hotline: +49-811-99829-270
> > --------------------------------------------
> > IsarNet Software Solutions GmbH
> > Terminalstrasse Mitte 18
> > 85356 Muenchen
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> > USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332
> > Geschaeftsfuehrung:
> > Andreas Perthel, Harald Weikert
> > --------------------------------------------

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon May 18, 2009 5:20 am
Post subject: Re: missing application icons [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Dear package maintainers,

.... I would really appreciate any hint on where kde default-icon-path's are
stored or how I could proceed in finding the problem with the missing icons
Wink !


Currently I have no further idea on where to look at, how to debug or what to
do. Totally clueless Sad

Many thanks for any hint!

Andy


On Friday 15 May 2009 08:43:34 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> - gpg control packet
>
> ...and another one:
>
> just installed kvpnc - which has *plenty* of icons coming along, but most
> (nut no all?) of the icons within kvpnc are shown as question-marks:
>
> - connect - question-mark
> - disconnect - question-mark
>
> but:
>
> - manage profiles: shown
> - new profile (wizard): shown
>
> maybe an icon search path is missing somewhere (where to look for it?).
>
> Icons on my system are distributed in
>
> /usr/share/icons
>
> /usr/share/kde4/apps/<app>/icons/*
>
> ...so for example the missing kvpnc icons are in place:
>
> /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/locolor/16x16/actions/connecting.png
> /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/connecting.png
> /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/locolor/32x32/actions/connecting.png
> /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/connecting.png
> /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/connecting.png
> /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/hicolor/32x32/actions/connecting.png
>
> any hint Smile ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> andy
>
> On Friday 15 May 2009 08:26:26 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> > - gpg control packet
> > Hi,
> >
> > ...re-installed kde-icons-oxygen, changed to other icon themes - still no
> > luck.
> >
> > Interestingly the icon's are in place, e.g.
> >
> > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/okular.png
> > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/okular.png
> > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/okular.png
> > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/okular.png
> > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/okular.png
> > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/okular.svgz
> > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/okular.png
> >
> > ...part of package okular.
> >
> > I have no clue where to look next - anyone out there?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Andy
> >
> > On Thursday 14 May 2009 21:42:53 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> > > - gpg control packet
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > short update - tried a new user, still missing icons. When I use the
> > > menu editor to assign a new icon, e.g. for okular, it's not found in
> > > the applications-icons-section Sad
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:52:02 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> > > > - gpg control packet
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > > > ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking
> > > > > > care on it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at
> > > > > > that time) unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of
> > > > > > the application icons in kde.
> > > > >
> > > > > Try deleting (or moving to another place if there are things you
> > > > > want to keep) the ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory, specially if you
> > > > > have installed custom icon themes.
> > > >
> > > > thanks for you tipp - but it didn't help - still seeing a lot of
> > > > question- marks instead of icons Sad ~/.kde/share/icons isn't
> > > > re-created when moved away - so it seems to be a system-wide problem
> > > > ?!
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Andreas Bourges
> > > > CCIE #6947 (R&S,C&S)
> > > > GSM: +49 178 7072022
> > > > e-mail: andreas.bourges.TakeThisOut@isarnet.de
> > > >
> > > > http://www.isarnet.de
> > > > http://www.isarflow.de
> > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > IsarFlow Hotline: +49-811-99829-270
> > > > --------------------------------------------
> > > > IsarNet Software Solutions GmbH
> > > > Terminalstrasse Mitte 18
> > > > 85356 Muenchen
> > > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberding
> > > > Handelsregister Muenchen, HRB 160131
> > > > USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332
> > > > Geschaeftsfuehrung:
> > > > Andreas Perthel, Harald Weikert
> > > > --------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andreas Bourges
> > > CCIE #6947 (R&S,C&S)
> > > GSM: +49 178 7072022
> > > e-mail: andreas.bourges.TakeThisOut@isarnet.de
> > >
> > > http://www.isarnet.de
> > > http://www.isarflow.de
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > IsarFlow Hotline: +49-811-99829-270
> > > --------------------------------------------
> > > IsarNet Software Solutions GmbH
> > > Terminalstrasse Mitte 18
> > > 85356 Muenchen
> > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Oberding
> > > Handelsregister Muenchen, HRB 160131
> > > USt.-ID Nr. DE246540332
> > > Geschaeftsfuehrung:
> > > Andreas Perthel, Harald Weikert
> > > --------------------------------------------

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 3:24 am
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Hi,

....the update yesterday to 4.3 (btw - great job!) did not solve my problem
(which is was hoping it would do Sad ).

Where das KDE store application to icon mappings? I created a new user and the
problem still exists (e.g. okular icon is not shown - neither in krunner nor
when starting okular).

since nearly all packages where updated yesterday, it must be s.th.
configuration specific - systemwide.

Where could I start searching for this misconfiguration?

thanks for *any* hint,

Andy



On Monday 18 May 2009 11:12:24 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> - gpg control packet
> Dear package maintainers,
>
> ... I would really appreciate any hint on where kde default-icon-path's are
> stored or how I could proceed in finding the problem with the missing icons
> Wink !
>
>
> Currently I have no further idea on where to look at, how to debug or what
> to do. Totally clueless Sad
>
> Many thanks for any hint!
>
> Andy
>
> On Friday 15 May 2009 08:43:34 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> > - gpg control packet
> >
> > ...and another one:
> >
> > just installed kvpnc - which has *plenty* of icons coming along, but most
> > (nut no all?) of the icons within kvpnc are shown as question-marks:
> >
> > - connect - question-mark
> > - disconnect - question-mark
> >
> > but:
> >
> > - manage profiles: shown
> > - new profile (wizard): shown
> >
> > maybe an icon search path is missing somewhere (where to look for it?).
> >
> > Icons on my system are distributed in
> >
> > /usr/share/icons
> >
> > /usr/share/kde4/apps/<app>/icons/*
> >
> > ...so for example the missing kvpnc icons are in place:
> >
> > /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/locolor/16x16/actions/connecting.png
> > /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/locolor/22x22/actions/connecting.png
> > /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/locolor/32x32/actions/connecting.png
> > /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/connecting.png
> > /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/hicolor/22x22/actions/connecting.png
> > /usr/share/kde4/apps/kvpnc/icons/hicolor/32x32/actions/connecting.png
> >
> > any hint Smile ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > andy
> >
> > On Friday 15 May 2009 08:26:26 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> > > - gpg control packet
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > ...re-installed kde-icons-oxygen, changed to other icon themes - still
> > > no luck.
> > >
> > > Interestingly the icon's are in place, e.g.
> > >
> > > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/okular.png
> > > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/okular.png
> > > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/okular.png
> > > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/okular.png
> > > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/64x64/apps/okular.png
> > > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/okular.svgz
> > > /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/okular.png
> > >
> > > ...part of package okular.
> > >
> > > I have no clue where to look next - anyone out there?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > > On Thursday 14 May 2009 21:42:53 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> > > > - gpg control packet
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > short update - tried a new user, still missing icons. When I use the
> > > > menu editor to assign a new icon, e.g. for okular, it's not found in
> > > > the applications-icons-section Sad
> > > >
> > > > Andy
> > > >
> > > > On Thursday 14 May 2009 20:52:02 Andreas Bourges wrote:
> > > > > - gpg control packet
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > > > ...I've got a long-lasting problem here and finally I'm taking
> > > > > > > care on it. Ever since the first update to kde 4.1 from the (at
> > > > > > > that time) unofficial source, I'm missing some (but not all) of
> > > > > > > the application icons in kde.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try deleting (or moving to another place if there are things you
> > > > > > want to keep) the ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory, specially if you
> > > > > > have installed custom icon themes.
> > > > >
> > > > > thanks for you tipp - but it didn't help - still seeing a lot of
> > > > > question- marks instead of icons Sad ~/.kde/share/icons isn't
> > > > > re-created when moved away - so it seems to be a system-wide
> > > > > problem ?!
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
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