[gentoo-user] How to resolve policy conflicts?

Hi Marcus

Markus Schönhaber wrote on 02/04/07 02:27:
> ATM we have the situation where the current stable version of OpenOffice
> (2.1.0-r1) won't compile (at least on a lot of machines) unless an ~arch
> version of STLport is installed:
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172860
> Looking at comments 34 and 37
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172860#c34
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172860#c37
> it seems to me there is a conflict in policies but I don't see how this
> situation should be / will be handled.
> What is there to do?

Bug # 172860 has been reopened.

Cheers, Dave
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Dave Jones wrote:

> Markus Schönhaber wrote on 02/04/07 02:27:
> > ATM we have the situation where the current stable version of OpenOffice
> > (2.1.0-r1) won't compile (at least on a lot of machines) unless an ~arch
> > version of STLport is installed:
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172860
> > Looking at comments 34 and 37
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172860#c34
> > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172860#c37
> > it seems to me there is a conflict in policies but I don't see how this
> > situation should be / will be handled.
> > What is there to do?
>
> It seems that we will have to be patient. The various bug reports have
> been marked resolved or duplicate, but as yet there no sign of an
> updated STLport in portage - except for the ~arch STLport-5.1.2.
>
> Bug #172680 indicates that this ~arch version of STLport resolves the
> OpenOffice compilation problem. However, I am very reluctant to use an
> ~arch ebuild to compile such a massive (but apparently delicate) ebuild
> as OpenOffice.

I'm already running OOo 2.1.0-r1 (having package-keyworded STLport 5.1.2) and,
AFAICT, it runs fine.
OTOH your reluctance is understandable. But what makes the situation even more
delicate as the OOo build seems to be, is that OOo 2.1 contains some security
fixes.

> Oh well, patience is a virtue. Or so they say.

I was just asking out of curiosity - the bug doesn't hurt me personally. Since
although the situation atm is obviously not the way it's meant to be, it's a
thing that can happen and propably will happen again eventually.
I was simply curious how this will be handled now and (maybe differently) in
the future. But since further comments on the bug seem to imply that there is
a lot of discussion on what is to be done, and since I don't have the
groundbreaking idea that makes all problems disappear, you're propably right:
we will have to be patient...

Regards
mks
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Hi Marcus

Markus Schönhaber wrote on 03/04/07 00:13:

>>> ATM we have the situation where the current stable version of OpenOffice
>>> (2.1.0-r1) won't compile (at least on a lot of machines) unless an ~arch
>>> version of STLport is installed:
>>> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172860
>>> What is there to do?
>> It seems that we will have to be patient. The various bug reports have
>> been marked resolved or duplicate, but as yet there no sign of an
>> updated STLport in portage - except for the ~arch STLport-5.1.2.

> I'm already running OOo 2.1.0-r1 (having package-keyworded STLport 5.1.2) and,
> AFAICT, it runs fine.
> OTOH your reluctance is understandable. But what makes the situation even more
> delicate as the OOo build seems to be, is that OOo 2.1 contains some security
> fixes.

I've used OOo 2.04 for months, a few days more probably won't hurt much.
> I was just asking out of curiosity - the bug doesn't hurt me personally. Since
> although the situation atm is obviously not the way it's meant to be, it's a
> thing that can happen and propably will happen again eventually.

I'm very reluctant to mix stable & unstable packages.

You're braver than I am; I have back-trouble, a big yellow stripe all
the way down it.

> I was simply curious how this will be handled now and (maybe differently) in
> the future. But since further comments on the bug seem to imply that there is
> a lot of discussion on what is to be done, and since I don't have the
> groundbreaking idea that makes all problems disappear, you're propably right:
> we will have to be patient...

I'm sure that the Gentoo developers are doing their best to resolve the
issues. Unfortunately, I'm not talented enough myself to be able to
contribute to a speedier solution to the problem.

Recently there has been a lot of unpleasant noise about conflicts and
disagreements among the Gentoo developers. I hope that they will resolve
their (mainly political) problems soon. The stories have not been good
for the image of Gentoo, either as an organisation or as a distribution.
As it stands, Gentoo continues to be my distro of choice. It would take
a lot of grief to make me swap to another distro.

Cheers, Dave
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