[gentoo-user] RFC about kooka block

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 11:50, Francesco Talamona wrote:
> Isn't it a bit strange? Shouldn't be kooka blocked, as it is already
> installed?
> Ok, kde il slotted, but... Maybe I miss something about split
> ebuilds
>
> Is this a bug? Any comments?
>
> Ciao
> Francesco

You do seem to be confusing monlithic kde builds with split ones. From 3.5,
superkaramba is built with kdeutils so you can either keep the installed
version, and install the kdeutils *compenents* seperately, or uninstall it
and build the whole of *kdeutils* in one go.

As far as kooka is concerned, you obviously haven't yet unmasked the 3.5
version.
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On Tuesday 20 December 2005 00:15, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:50:56 +0100, Francesco Talamona wrote:
[...]
> > Isn't it a bit strange? Shouldn't be kooka blocked, as it is
> > already installed?
>
> superkaramba moved into kdeutils for KDE 3.5, which is why you are
> seeing that block, it is already installed. kooka-3.4.3 apparently is
> not.

Ok, now it's clear. It's also clear that my counterexample wasn't the
best one

Thanks a lot
Francesco

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On Tuesday 20 December 2005 00:01, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 12/19/05, Francesco Talamona <ti.liame DeleteThis @email.it> wrote:
> > aemaeth ~ # equery belongs /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka
> > [ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka in *... ]
> > kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5.0-r3 (/usr/kde/3.5/bin/kooka)
> >
> > aemaeth ~ # emerge -p kooka
> >
> > These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies ...done!
> > [ebuild NS ] kde-base/arts-3.4.3
> > [ebuild NS ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.3
> > [ebuild N ] kde-base/libkscan-3.4.3
> > [ebuild N ] kde-base/kooka-3.4.3
>
> Ok, so you are not accepting ~x86 for the split KDE ebuilds...i.e, no
> "kde-base/kooka ~x86" in /etc/portage/package.keywords...

I prefer to unmask program specifying version, so if I unmask
kde-base/kooka-3.5.0 (and kde-base/libkscan-3.5.0) I get:

aemaeth ~ # emerge -a =kde-base/kooka-3.5.0

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/kooka-3.5.0)
[blocks B ] =kde-base/kdegraphics-3.5* (is blocking
kde-base/libkscan-3.5.0)
[ebuild N ] kde-base/libkscan-3.5.0
[ebuild N ] kde-base/kooka-3.5.0

!!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
installed
!!! on the same system.

As expected. Good.

> > but, for example:
> >
> > aemaeth ~ # emerge -p kde-base/superkaramba
> >
> > These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies ...done!
> > [blocks B ] =kde-base/kdeutils-3.5* (is blocking
> > kde-base/superkaramba-3.5.0)
> > [ebuild N ] kde-base/superkaramba-3.5.0
> > aemaeth ~ # equery belongs /usr/kde/3.5/bin/superkaramba
> > [ Searching for file(s) /usr/kde/3.5/bin/superkaramba in *... ]
> > kde-base/kdeutils-3.5.0 (/usr/kde/3.5/bin/superkaramba)
>
> Yes, you cannot install both the split ebuilds
> (kde-base/superkaramba) and the monolithic ebuilds
> (kde-base/kdeutils) at the same time.
>
> > Isn't it a bit strange? Shouldn't be kooka blocked, as it is
> > already installed?
>
> No, you installed it as part of the monolithic build of kdegraphics,
> not as a split build.
>
> > Ok, kde il slotted, but... Maybe I miss something about split
> > ebuilds
> >
> > Is this a bug? Any comments?
>
> No, not a bug.
>
> -Richard

So in the end I was overlooking the combination between monolithic and
split, due to the orthogonality introduced by slotting: in the end it
would install split kooka in /usr/kde/3.4/bin/kooka; so no clash with
monolithic kdegraphics-3.5 that installed kooka in /usr/kde/3.5.

Glad it is now doing as expected (now that I understand it right!),
definitely not a bug.

Thanks
Francesco
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On Tuesday 20 December 2005 00:10, Glenn Enright wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 December 2005 11:50, Francesco Talamona wrote:
> > Isn't it a bit strange? Shouldn't be kooka blocked, as it is
> > already installed?
> > Ok, kde il slotted, but... Maybe I miss something about split
> > ebuilds
> >
> > Is this a bug? Any comments?
> >
> > Ciao
> > Francesco
>
> You do seem to be confusing monlithic kde builds with split ones.
> From 3.5, superkaramba is built with kdeutils so you can either keep
> the installed version, and install the kdeutils *compenents*
> seperately, or uninstall it and build the whole of *kdeutils* in one
> go.
>
> As far as kooka is concerned, you obviously haven't yet unmasked the
> 3.5 version.

Exactly, now I unmasked it and everything makes sense (see my reply to
Richard)

Thanks a lot
Francesco
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