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Steffen Mutter

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:50 pm
Post subject: the python editor 'spe' package needs an update.
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Hi there!

I subscribed to this list, cause my friend Martin 'Joey' Schulze adviced
me to do so and tell you about the matter I spotted...

The problem is not really a debian problem, cause the packages work well
and no dependencies are broken - but the actual Ubuntu Gutsy release
just claims Debian unstable (or etch?) to be used for their needs -
which is _not_ a good idea:
their repository dependencies delivers python-wxgtk2.8 with it, which
does not work with the package spe in version 0.8.2a+repack-1 at all Wink

I first solved the problem by editing this startupscript:
$editor /usr/share/pycentral/spe/site-packages/_spe/SPE.py
find:
wxversion.ensureMinimal(WX_VERSION)
and replace by:
wxversion.select(['2.6'])
which is given as a dependency (by _your_ maintainer I'd suppose):
Depends: python, python-central (>= 0.5.6ubuntu2), *python-wxgtk2.6*,
python-wxglade, kiki
Thanks, for anybody who wrote this hint in here Wink

This solution is not really state of the art, so I checked out the svn
version here:
svn checkout svn://svn.berlios.de/python/spe/trunk/_spe
tested it running: python SPE.py
and it runs well, using the wxgtk2.8...

You may have a look at the complete repository here:
http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/python/spe/trunk/_spe/

Joey said it is strongly adviced to upgrade the package, but it's
actally orphaned and nobody seems to feel responsible for.

Please keep in mind, that the debian-packages are not shipped with
broken packages - but you debians always fix such things faster than the
Ubuntus - I bet they just pick the new packages out the etch or unstable
repository, which seem to be the same for me.
Maybe you'll update to python-wxgtk2.8 and create a new package for spe
out of the svn as well to show the ubuntu-guys how those
package-update-things should be done perfecly...

Kind regards from Germany, I appreciate your work very much!

Steffen


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Steffen Mutter

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:20 pm
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Hi Scott!

Scott Kitterman wrote:

An extremly quick reply. Thank you!
> On Sunday 11 November 2007 15:39, Steffen Mutter wrote:
>
>> their repository dependencies delivers python-wxgtk2.8 with it, which
>> does not work with the package spe in version 0.8.2a+repack-1 at all Wink
>>
>
> Stani has prepared an update for Gutsy to fix this problem in Ubuntu. He has
> also started working here on getting SPE updated in Debian
which is not really needed, until an upgrade to the python_wxgtk2.8 is
wanted by the Debian team...
> (and thus Ubuntu Hardy eventually).
>
Wow. I didn't expect such a quick resolution. But that's great, really.
So I can stop building my own .deb, I think Smile

> Scott K
>
SMut


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SPE Stani's Python Editor

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:50 pm
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On Nov 11, 2007 9:44 PM, Scott Kitterman <debian RemoveThis @kitterman.com> wrote:
Hi Scott,
Thanks for your answer.
> On Sunday 11 November 2007 15:39, Steffen Mutter wrote:
> > Hi there!
> >
> > I subscribed to this list, cause my friend Martin 'Joey' Schulze adviced
> > me to do so and tell you about the matter I spotted...
> >
> > The problem is not really a debian problem, cause the packages work well
> > and no dependencies are broken - but the actual Ubuntu Gutsy release
> > just claims Debian unstable (or etch?) to be used for their needs -
> > which is _not_ a good idea:
> > their repository dependencies delivers python-wxgtk2.8 with it, which
> > does not work with the package spe in version 0.8.2a+repack-1 at all Wink
>
> Steffen,
>
> Stani has prepared an update for Gutsy to fix this problem in Ubuntu.
I have submitted an update to Hardy. Once this is approved, it will be
backported to Gutsy and Feisty.

> He has
> also started working here on getting SPE updated in Debian (and thus Ubuntu
> Hardy eventually).
At the moment I am still working on the new release which can be
packaged for Debian. This version (the latest SPE in subversion) works
with python-wxgtk2.6 and 2.8, so there is no need for Debian to
provide a python-wxgtk2.8 package. If SPE keeps on being orphaned I
will try to package SPE myself, although it would be nicer if a debian
developer wants to adopt SPE.

Best regards,
Stani



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Bernd Zeimetz

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:20 pm
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SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote:
> At the moment I am still working on the new release which can be
> packaged for Debian. This version (the latest SPE in subversion) works
> with python-wxgtk2.6 and 2.8, so there is no need for Debian to
> provide a python-wxgtk2.8 package.

Seems the current plan is to skip 2.8 due to too many bugs and package
3.0 instead.

> If SPE keeps on being orphaned I
> will try to package SPE myself, although it would be nicer if a debian
> developer wants to adopt SPE.

The wnpp bug was renamed to an ITA by Stefano Canepa <sc.DeleteThis@linux.it> -
adding him as CC to this mail.

Stefano, what's the status of your adoption efforts?


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Steffen Mutter

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:30 pm
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Hi Stani, Ron!

Very pleased to meet you in direct e-mail conversation Smile
Extremely useful development tool you've created here!

SPE Stani's Python Editor schrieb:
> On Nov 11, 2007 9:44 PM, Scott Kitterman <debian.DeleteThis@kitterman.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday 11 November 2007 15:39, Steffen Mutter wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there!
>>>
>>> I subscribed to this list, cause my friend Martin 'Joey' Schulze adviced
>>> me to do so and tell you about the matter I spotted...
>>>
>>> The problem is not really a debian problem, cause the packages work well
>>> and no dependencies are broken - but the actual Ubuntu Gutsy release
>>> just claims Debian unstable (or etch?) to be used for their needs -
>>> which is _not_ a good idea:
>>> their repository dependencies delivers python-wxgtk2.8 with it, which
>>> does not work with the package spe in version 0.8.2a+repack-1 at all Wink
>>>
>> Steffen,
>>
>> Stani has prepared an update for Gutsy to fix this problem in Ubuntu.
>>
> I have submitted an update to Hardy. Once this is approved, it will be
> backported to Gutsy and Feisty.
>
Great, fast work. Thank you!
>> He has
>> also started working here on getting SPE updated in Debian (and thus Ubuntu
>> Hardy eventually).
>>
> At the moment I am still working on the new release which can be
> packaged for Debian.
Fine. I think this part will be very interesting for Ron Lee.
I think I'll attach him a carbon-copy of this...
> This version (the latest SPE in subversion) works
> with python-wxgtk2.6 and 2.8, so there is no need for Debian to
> provide a python-wxgtk2.8 package.
>
@Ron Lee:
IMHO an update to a new version of the wxgtk wouldn't start other
packages to be broken, would it?
So I think we should the Debian-Team (Ron) decide what to do - Joey told
me, he'd be the one to ask for.
> If SPE keeps on being orphaned I
> will try to package SPE myself, although it would be nicer if a debian
> developer wants to adopt SPE.
>
Joey asked me just a few moments before, if I would like to do it.
Indeed I am not shure if I can manage that (would be my first .deb) -
but I'll try my very best if you want me to do it.
> Best regards,
> Stani
>
Thank you for your work, I just started using your tool and I am amazed
when I use it.

Steffen


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Bernd Zeimetz

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:40 pm
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Moin,

> Bernd Zeimetz schrieb:
>> The wnpp bug was renamed to an ITA by Stefano Canepa <sc.TakeThisOut@linux.it> -
>> adding him as CC to this mail.
>>
> What's this bug in a closer description?
> Haven't heared of it really, sorry.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=379374
but you're probably looking for
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/

Cheers,

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Steffen Mutter

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:40 pm
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Moin Bernd!

Bernd Zeimetz schrieb:
> SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote:
>
>> At the moment I am still working on the new release which can be
>> packaged for Debian. This version (the latest SPE in subversion) works
>> with python-wxgtk2.6 and 2.8, so there is no need for Debian to
>> provide a python-wxgtk2.8 package.
>>
>
> Seems the current plan is to skip 2.8 due to too many bugs and package
> 3.0 instead.
>
I guessed this might be the clue, why 2.8 was skipped by debian: bugs.
Not very surprising, really.
2.6 does the job, indeed.
>
>> If SPE keeps on being orphaned I
>> will try to package SPE myself, although it would be nicer if a debian
>> developer wants to adopt SPE.
>>
>
> The wnpp bug was renamed to an ITA by Stefano Canepa <sc DeleteThis @linux.it> -
> adding him as CC to this mail.
>
What's this bug in a closer description?
Haven't heared of it really, sorry.
> Stefano, what's the status of your adoption efforts?
>
>

Steffen


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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:50 pm
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Steffen Mutter wrote:
> >> If SPE keeps on being orphaned I
> >> will try to package SPE myself, although it would be nicer if a debian
> >> developer wants to adopt SPE.
> >>
> >
> > The wnpp bug was renamed to an ITA by Stefano Canepa <sc.RemoveThis@linux.it> -
> > adding him as CC to this mail.
> >
> What's this bug in a closer description?

ITA - Intent to Adopt

Regards,

Joey

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:40 am
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Stefano Canepa wrote:
> Il giorno dom, 11/11/2007 alle 23.12 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz ha scritto:
>> Stefano, what's the status of your adoption efforts?
>
> I'll have a package ready for the upload at the end of the week.
>
> I need to understand how to manage it in the pyton apps group, but I'm
> studing.

have a look at
http://python-apps.alioth.debian.org/policy.html

Best thing is to join us in #debian-python on OFTC, especially when you
have questions or need a sponsor.


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SPE Stani's Python Editor

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:50 am
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On Nov 12, 2007 9:17 AM, Stefano Canepa <sc DeleteThis @linux.it> wrote:
>
> Il giorno dom, 11/11/2007 alle 23.12 +0100, Bernd Zeimetz ha scritto:
> >
> > Stefano, what's the status of your adoption efforts?
>
> I'll have a package ready for the upload at the end of the week.
Great! I hope to do an new upstream release (SPE 0.8.4.c) before
december. I guess it would be better to wait till then to push it into
the debian repositories. I had contact with the packager of wxGlade to
update wxGlade. I just got an email from him that he worked on it:

>The package wxGlade has now a new debian package, at
>ftp://ftp.ofset.org/debian/pool/main/p/python-wxglade_0.6.1-1_all.deb
>
>The sources and diffs can be found under
>ftp://ftp.ofset.org/debian/pool/main/w/wxglade*
>
>You may prefer get them as debian packages with the apt-get system.
>Then the relevant lines to consider are:
>
>deb http://debian.ofset.org etch main
>deb-src http://debian.ofset.org etch main

I've asked him when this will be in debian sid. Winpdb was till now in
the spe package, but thanks to Bernd this is now an external
dependency. Looking at the current spe package these dependencies seem
to be missing as spe normally ships with xrced: python-xml and
python-wxtools. If they are missing a part of the spe menu will be
broken.
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