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Hadron

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:20 pm
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Richard Rasker <spamtrap.RemoveThis@linetec.nl> writes:

> Sinister Midget wrote:
>
>> On 2009-11-02, Richard Rasker <spamtrap.RemoveThis@linetec.nl> claimed:
>>> I can't help but notice that some trolls must have lost their jobs as
>>> toilet cleaners or burger flippers, judging by the fact that those poor
>>> sods apparently haven't got anything better to do than spew nonsense all
>>> over Usenet al day long.
>>>
>>> So come on, people, let's give the economy a boost, so that they can
>>> become useful and start scrubbing Ballmer's urinal once again ASAP. Heck,
>>> with a lot of hard work and bit of luck, they may even rise to become
>>> chair repairmen - who can tell? Anyway, the main thing is to get them to
>>> do something really fulfilling again.
>>>
>>> The only drawback of course is that the best way to stimulate the economy
>>> is to waste money on worthless products (e.g. Windows machines and
>>> Microsoft software) and services that shouldn't be needed (e.g. computer
>>> reinsta^H^H^H^Hrepair shops). But hey, we all have to contribute what we
>>> can -- so go out and buy those Windows boxes; no, you don't actually have
>>> to use them (I'd rather advise against that), it's just about spending
>>> the money and thus helping those poor trolls who can't help themselves.
>>
>> I'd rather they get ebola or botulism from one of their ventures into
>> the soup kitchens. But I realize we can't have everything we want.
>
> It's like they /are/ botulism -- spoiling our day out at the lake.
> But I must say that they're doing a masterly job confirming my conclusions:
> some half-dozen responses within an hour of my original posting, all from
> trolls -- and the majority insulting Linux, its users and its
> advocates.

What advocates? Oh. Yo9u mean "advocates". Lying, lazy, freeloading
freetards in the main in COLA: chrisv being one.

>
>> So I guess your idea almost makes for a reasonable alternative. If not
>> for the fact that I'd have to junk some machines I now have to make
>> room for the machines I don't need so DuFuS can feel valuable again, I
>> might consider it.
>
> Thanks for your support.

Foulmouthed freetard-wannabe "chrisv" has been buying and using Windows
and other closed source SW for years. But not to support you. To fill
his own pockets for sure.

>
> Richard Rasker

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Hadron

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:20 pm
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Hadron <hadronquark.DeleteThis@gmail.com> writes:

> Richard Rasker <spamtrap.DeleteThis@linetec.nl> writes:
>
>> Sinister Midget wrote:
>>
>>> On 2009-11-02, Richard Rasker <spamtrap.DeleteThis@linetec.nl> claimed:
>>>> I can't help but notice that some trolls must have lost their jobs as
>>>> toilet cleaners or burger flippers, judging by the fact that those poor
>>>> sods apparently haven't got anything better to do than spew nonsense all
>>>> over Usenet al day long.
>>>>
>>>> So come on, people, let's give the economy a boost, so that they can
>>>> become useful and start scrubbing Ballmer's urinal once again ASAP. Heck,
>>>> with a lot of hard work and bit of luck, they may even rise to become
>>>> chair repairmen - who can tell? Anyway, the main thing is to get them to
>>>> do something really fulfilling again.
>>>>
>>>> The only drawback of course is that the best way to stimulate the economy
>>>> is to waste money on worthless products (e.g. Windows machines and
>>>> Microsoft software) and services that shouldn't be needed (e.g. computer
>>>> reinsta^H^H^H^Hrepair shops). But hey, we all have to contribute what we
>>>> can -- so go out and buy those Windows boxes; no, you don't actually have
>>>> to use them (I'd rather advise against that), it's just about spending
>>>> the money and thus helping those poor trolls who can't help themselves.
>>>
>>> I'd rather they get ebola or botulism from one of their ventures into
>>> the soup kitchens. But I realize we can't have everything we want.
>>
>> It's like they /are/ botulism -- spoiling our day out at the lake.
>> But I must say that they're doing a masterly job confirming my conclusions:
>> some half-dozen responses within an hour of my original posting, all from
>> trolls -- and the majority insulting Linux, its users and its
>> advocates.
>
> What advocates? Oh. Yo9u mean "advocates". Lying, lazy, freeloading
> freetards in the main in COLA: chrisv being one.

And Gidget as well of course.

>
>>
>>> So I guess your idea almost makes for a reasonable alternative. If not
>>> for the fact that I'd have to junk some machines I now have to make
>>> room for the machines I don't need so DuFuS can feel valuable again, I
>>> might consider it.
>>
>> Thanks for your support.
>
> Foulmouthed freetard-wannabe "chrisv" has been buying and using Windows
> and other closed source SW for years. But not to support you. To fill
> his own pockets for sure.
>
>>
>> Richard Rasker

I forgot to mention that the Sinister Midget guy ALSO makes his money
from administrating Windows machines. Or so he claimed.
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:20 pm
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Richard Rasker wrote:

> But I must say that they're doing a masterly job confirming my
> conclusions: some half-dozen responses within an hour of my original
> posting, all from trolls -- and the majority insulting Linux, its users
> and its advocates.

Indeed - a very nice little demonstration there Richard.

In fact, one could almost say that you trolled the trolls, and very
successfully too. Well done Smile
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Jeremy Fisher

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:20 pm
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:00 +0100, Hadron wrote:

> Jeremy Fisher <freya.DeleteThis@linux.site> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:29:10 +0100, Richard Rasker wrote:
>>
>>> I can't help but notice that some trolls must have lost their jobs as
>>> toilet cleaners or burger flippers, judging by the fact that those
>>> poor sods apparently haven't got anything better to do than spew
>>> nonsense all over Usenet al day long.
>>>
>>> So come on, people, let's give the economy a boost, so that they can
>>> become useful and start scrubbing Ballmer's urinal once again ASAP.
>>> Heck, with a lot of hard work and bit of luck, they may even rise to
>>> become chair repairmen - who can tell? Anyway, the main thing is to
>>> get them to do something really fulfilling again.
>>>
>>> The only drawback of course is that the best way to stimulate the
>>> economy is to waste money on worthless products (e.g. Windows machines
>>> and Microsoft software) and services that shouldn't be needed (e.g.
>>> computer reinsta^H^H^H^Hrepair shops). But hey, we all have to
>>> contribute what we can -- so go out and buy those Windows boxes; no,
>>> you don't actually have to use them (I'd rather advise against that),
>>> it's just about spending the money and thus helping those poor trolls
>>> who can't help themselves.
>>>
>>> Richard Rasker
>>
>> Buying the hardware, and allowing us to install OS of choice would be
>> nice, I have no problem with retailers putting a OS that you have
>> requested, but the bias to only install Windows is a corrupt practise.
>
> It is a bias because of the Public wanting it. Outlets would soon go
> bust if they stopped selling Windows PCs. Why? Buyers would go
> elsewhere.
>
>
>> So why not buy new hardware make a reasonable donation to open source
>> OS of choice, have retailer install it, markets are stimulated, more
>> companies profit, more R&D goes on even better Linux projects appear on
>> market, people are happy as they now have a system that works from a
>> vendor they can trust.
>>
>> Jem..
>
> My laptop was bought of eBay with Windows removed prior to sale.
>
> Debian on it now. Works great. Except for hibernation/suspend of course.

Do you actually ever read, or try to comprehend what people say, or do
you just leap to the defence of Microsoft Corp. What I am saying people
should have a choice, but in my opinion a Linux based solution installed
by the retailer would be a better solution, if you wish to use Windows
that is OK, but you should have a choice, Microsoft, Linux, BSD, are
software vendors not hardware vendors, so why when we buy PC boxes is it
the norm to have to pay for what amounts to a Tax to a software vendor.

Would using simpler words, maybe bullet points to highlight what is being
said help. I appreciate that English may not be your first language so
apologise for the sarcasm in advance if this is the case.

Jem..
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Chris Ahlstrom

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:20 pm
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Jeremy Fisher pulled this Usenet boner:

> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:58:00 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Debian on it now. Works great. Except for hibernation/suspend of course.

Works great in Fedora, both on the OLPC and on the Acer Aspire 4810T.

> Do you actually ever read, or try to comprehend what people say, or do
> you just leap to the defence of Microsoft Corp.

Bingo!

> What I am saying people
> should have a choice, but in my opinion a Linux based solution installed
> by the retailer would be a better solution, if you wish to use Windows
> that is OK, but you should have a choice, Microsoft, Linux, BSD, are
> software vendors not hardware vendors, so why when we buy PC boxes is it
> the norm to have to pay for what amounts to a Tax to a software vendor.
>
> Would using simpler words, maybe bullet points to highlight what is being
> said help. I appreciate that English may not be your first language so
> apologise for the sarcasm in advance if this is the case.

Nothing will help. "Hadron" is here to troll.

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John Fuhrer

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:20 pm
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"Jeremy Fisher" <freya.DeleteThis@linux.site> wrote in message
news:4aef1caa$0$279$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:29:10 +0100, Richard Rasker wrote:
> So why not buy new hardware make a reasonable donation to open source OS
> of choice, have retailer install it, markets are stimulated, more
> companies profit, more R&D goes on even better Linux projects appear on
> market, people are happy as they now have a system that works from a
> vendor they can trust.
>
> Jem..

I have no problem with that.
It's a good idea in theory but the public has spoken and they want Windows.

Look what happened to the Netbooks.
Linux initially had 100 percent of the market but as soon as Windows
versions were released it dropped to less than 5 percent, and rather
quickly.

If *I* had a computer shop, I would offer Windows and Linux as well as the
option to buy a bare machine.
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Chris Ahlstrom

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:18 pm
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Jeremy Fisher pulled this Usenet boner:

> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:31:43 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>
>> I would have the OFFER to install Linux for them. I would not pre-build
>> Linux based machines for sale as they probably wouldn't sell. Most Linux
>> users, like me, install it themselves.
>
> ROTFL.. nice one. I love subtle sarcasm "Most Linux
> users, like me, install it themselves." classic!
>
> Its sad but I have printed that one out, and pinned it up, it will keep
> me laughing for weeks. could just end up on a 'T' shirt, Microsoft Logo,
> with your prophetic words printed below.

"Hadron" always feels the need to remind us that he "is" a Linux user.

He's the only one that does that, unprompted.

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:18 pm
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Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>"Hadron" always feels the need to remind us that he "is" a Linux user.

And that he "likes" and advocares Linux. ROFL
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Hadron

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:20 pm
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"John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_deletethis_john DeleteThis @yahoo.com> writes:

> "Jeremy Fisher" <freya DeleteThis @linux.site> wrote in message
> news:4aef1caa$0$279$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:29:10 +0100, Richard Rasker wrote:
>> So why not buy new hardware make a reasonable donation to open source OS
>> of choice, have retailer install it, markets are stimulated, more
>> companies profit, more R&D goes on even better Linux projects appear on
>> market, people are happy as they now have a system that works from a
>> vendor they can trust.
>>
>> Jem..
>
> I have no problem with that.
> It's a good idea in theory but the public has spoken and they want Windows.
>
> Look what happened to the Netbooks.
> Linux initially had 100 percent of the market but as soon as Windows
> versions were released it dropped to less than 5 percent, and rather
> quickly.
>
> If *I* had a computer shop, I would offer Windows and Linux as well as the
> option to buy a bare machine.

I would have the OFFER to install Linux for them. I would not pre-build
Linux based machines for sale as they probably wouldn't sell. Most Linux
users, like me, install it themselves.
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Peter Köhlmann

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:20 pm
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Hadron wrote:

> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_deletethis_john.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> writes:
>
>> "Jeremy Fisher" <freya.DeleteThis@linux.site> wrote in message
>> news:4aef1caa$0$279$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:29:10 +0100, Richard Rasker wrote:
>>> So why not buy new hardware make a reasonable donation to open source
>>> OS of choice, have retailer install it, markets are stimulated, more
>>> companies profit, more R&D goes on even better Linux projects appear
>>> on market, people are happy as they now have a system that works from
>>> a vendor they can trust.
>>>
>>> Jem..
>>
>> I have no problem with that.
>> It's a good idea in theory but the public has spoken and they want
>> Windows.
>>
>> Look what happened to the Netbooks.
>> Linux initially had 100 percent of the market but as soon as Windows
>> versions were released it dropped to less than 5 percent, and rather
>> quickly.
>>
>> If *I* had a computer shop, I would offer Windows and Linux as well as
>> the option to buy a bare machine.
>
> I would have the OFFER to install Linux for them. I would not pre-build
> Linux based machines for sale as they probably wouldn't sell. Most Linux
> users, like me,

You are no linux user

> install it themselves.

You even failed miserably in installing Ubuntu.

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(Msg. 26) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:20 pm
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Peter Köhlmann stated in post hcnchg$uh0$03$1@news.t-online.com on 11/2/09
12:39 PM:

> You are no linux user

You really should work on bettering your view of yourself.


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(Msg. 27) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:20 pm
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:31:43 +0100, Hadron wrote:

> I would have the OFFER to install Linux for them. I would not pre-build
> Linux based machines for sale as they probably wouldn't sell. Most Linux
> users, like me, install it themselves.

ROTFL.. nice one. I love subtle sarcasm "Most Linux
users, like me, install it themselves." classic!

Its sad but I have printed that one out, and pinned it up, it will keep
me laughing for weeks. could just end up on a 'T' shirt, Microsoft Logo,
with your prophetic words printed below.

Jem..
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:20 pm
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Hadron wrote:

> Jeremy Fisher <freya DeleteThis @linux.site> writes:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:31:43 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> I would have the OFFER to install Linux for them. I would not
>>> pre-build Linux based machines for sale as they probably wouldn't
>>> sell. Most Linux users, like me, install it themselves.
>>
>> ROTFL.. nice one. I love subtle sarcasm "Most Linux
>> users, like me, install it themselves." classic!
>>
>> Its sad but I have printed that one out, and pinned it up, it will keep
>> me laughing for weeks. could just end up on a 'T' shirt, Microsoft
>> Logo,
>> with your prophetic words printed below.
>>
>> Jem..
>
> What is so funny?
>
> Do a poll.
>
> Ask how many people bought a system from a linux "reseller".

Not many, as there are not many systems sold without MS infesting them.
And paid for that garbage, even if deleted without ever being run

> Sure there are many Linux netbooks with it preinstalled but here I tend
> to focus on desktops.

Naturally. You always have to make sure that you can shift to your self-
selected numbers to pretend being right
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:20 pm
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Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann RemoveThis @t-online.de> writes:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>> Jeremy Fisher <freya RemoveThis @linux.site> writes:
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:31:43 +0100, Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would have the OFFER to install Linux for them. I would not
>>>> pre-build Linux based machines for sale as they probably wouldn't
>>>> sell. Most Linux users, like me, install it themselves.
>>>
>>> ROTFL.. nice one. I love subtle sarcasm "Most Linux
>>> users, like me, install it themselves." classic!
>>>
>>> Its sad but I have printed that one out, and pinned it up, it will keep
>>> me laughing for weeks. could just end up on a 'T' shirt, Microsoft
>>> Logo,
>>> with your prophetic words printed below.
>>>
>>> Jem..
>>
>> What is so funny?
>>
>> Do a poll.
>>
>> Ask how many people bought a system from a linux "reseller".
>
> Not many, as there are not many systems sold without MS infesting them.
> And paid for that garbage, even if deleted without ever being run
>
>> Sure there are many Linux netbooks with it preinstalled but here I tend
>> to focus on desktops.
>
> Naturally. You always have to make sure that you can shift to your self-
> selected numbers to pretend being right

Even allowing netbooks, the number is tiny since almost NO ONE buys
desktop Linux solutions.

Can you name one reseller/outlet/pc HW manufacturer of desktop PC HW
shipping wiht Linux that was a success.

No. Of course you can't.

How many did you buy? Don't answer that : we know. None.
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:20 pm
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Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, Peter Köhlmann was heard to
say:

> Hadron wrote:
>
>> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_deletethis_john.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> "Jeremy Fisher" <freya.RemoveThis@linux.site> wrote in message
>>> news:4aef1caa$0$279$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
>>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 15:29:10 +0100, Richard Rasker wrote:
>>>> So why not buy new hardware make a reasonable donation to open source
>>>> OS of choice, have retailer install it, markets are stimulated, more
>>>> companies profit, more R&D goes on even better Linux projects appear
>>>> on market, people are happy as they now have a system that works from
>>>> a vendor they can trust.
>>>>
>>>> Jem..
>>>
>>> I have no problem with that.
>>> It's a good idea in theory but the public has spoken and they want
>>> Windows.
>>>
>>> Look what happened to the Netbooks.
>>> Linux initially had 100 percent of the market but as soon as Windows
>>> versions were released it dropped to less than 5 percent, and rather
>>> quickly.
>>>
>>> If *I* had a computer shop, I would offer Windows and Linux as well as
>>> the option to buy a bare machine.
>>
>> I would have the OFFER to install Linux for them. I would not pre-build
>> Linux based machines for sale as they probably wouldn't sell. Most Linux
>> users, like me,
>
> You are no linux user
>
>> install it themselves.
>
> You even failed miserably in installing Ubuntu.

Yes, one of the *easiest* distros to install. The M$ fanboi troll had
trouble installing the 32-bit version, & the moron just gave up trying to
install a 64-bit distro.

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