color printer w/drivers for ubuntu?

On 2009-10-12, Francis Marsden <fake RemoveThis @fake.fake> wrote:
> I am looking to buy a color printer, and would like to know which brands
> have good linux driver support. TIA

http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting

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On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 17:09 -0600, Francis Marsden wrote:
> I am looking to buy a color printer, and would like to know which brands
> have good linux driver support. TIA

I can PROVE a 2 year payback in almost every scenario if you
move to a PostScript Color Laser over any inkjet. Maybe 3 years
depending on model and ink costs.

I ditched my plethora of throw away inkjets for an HP cp3505dn.
Cost... about $600USD. Now, an inkjet let's say costs $100, but
let's say it costs $70 everytime you need to reload it with ink
and let's say you do that 4 times a year... anyhow, you can
see how it all adds up.

With the cp3505dn (for example, that printer is now old, but you
can still get it for cheap with warranty even) you get duplexing,
network printing (yes NETWORK printing), FAST (imagine 100-500
times faster than your color inkjet) and large paper trays.
Toner is expensive though, but it's a once every two year
purchase or so (more or less) and even then, mainly just
the black toner (cost $100 - 150USD).

Also, if you have multiple users, the speed of a single
color laserjet will easily outdue the load duty of 10
individual inkjets (printouts will be faster, etc... shoot
even better than 20-30 inkjets really)

So... let's see:

Color Laser

$600
$150
--------
$750 cost over 2 years (of delightful non-frustrating printing)


Color Inkjet

$100
$560 (8 x $70)
--------
$660 cost over 2 years (of horrible experience printing)

or

Color Inkjet
$100
$100 (replacement printer since first one died after 1 year)
$350 (6 x $70)
--------
$550 cost over 2 years (horrible experience and landfill guilt)

I recommend the HP PostScript printers. HP because of long
term support and the fact that they come with fully loaded
toner cartridges.

I know I'll never go back to inkjet. Shoot even if it cost
TWICE as much as inkjet, I'd never go back. It's just too
freakin convenient. I love my printer. I did NOT love
my inkjet printers.

Am Dienstag, 13. Oktober 2009 01:34, Aragorn a écrit :

> Francis Marsden wrote...
>
>> I am looking to buy a color printer, and would like to know
>> which brands have good linux driver support. TIA
>
> Buy Epson or Hewlett-Packard. They're good and they're
> always supported in GNU/Linux. You can't go wrong with
> any of those.

Can't comment on Epson, but HP does sell printers that
are not supported in GNU/Linux:
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/unsupported.html

Francis might be more interested in the models that are
supported:
http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/index.html

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Francis Marsden <fake.RemoveThis@fake.fake> wrote:
> I am looking to buy a color printer, and would like to know which brands
> have good linux driver support.

The trick is to look for the keyword "postscript" in the specifications of
the printer. If the printer supports postscript it will work fine in all
current and future linux distributions.

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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:15:19 UTC in comp.os.linux.hardware, Chris Cox
<chrisncoxn RemoveThis @endlessnow.com> wrote:

> With the cp3505dn (for example, that printer is now old, but you
> can still get it for cheap with warranty even) you get duplexing,
> network printing (yes NETWORK printing), FAST (imagine 100-500
> times faster than your color inkjet) and large paper trays.
> Toner is expensive though, but it's a once every two year
> purchase or so (more or less) and even then, mainly just
> the black toner (cost $100 - 150USD).

Hmm, this was not my experience with an HP Colour Laserjet 2550. It came with 4
cartridges that were meant to be 4000 pages each. Each cartridge has a small
'smart' chip on it that keeps a count of the number of pages printed and it
starts at 4000 and decrements each time it prints - and each time it rotates the
cartridges round in the holder. What they don't say is that every day, possibly
several times a day, it rotates the cartridges around the carousel to stop the
toner from solidifying. Each time it does that, it decrements the page count
even though it has not printed anything. With my printer, after it had printed
350 pages all the 'replace cartridge' lights started flashing and at £70 a pop
it was going to cost £20 less than I paid for the entire printer to replace
them. I checked every cartridge and they were all chock full of toner, it was
just the 'smart chip' that was stopping it printing.

I opened a call on the net with HP and the nice man in the USA said that there
was a lifetime warranty on the cartridges and that I just needed to send them
back and HP would replace them free of charge. Then he found that I was in the
UK and told me that I had to contact HP UK who don't give a flying f*** and
refuse point blank to do anything.

Luckily there is a ready market in replacement 'smart chips' and I bought a
stash of them on Ebay for $15 each or something and got them shipped to the UK.
Total cost about £30. Replace the (misnamed) 'smart chips' and away it goes.

Mind out for the hidden printing costs in HP printers.

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Trevor Hemsley wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:15:19 UTC in comp.os.linux.hardware, Chris Cox
> <chrisncoxn.DeleteThis@endlessnow.com> wrote:
>
>> With the cp3505dn (for example, that printer is now old, but you
>> can still get it for cheap with warranty even) you get duplexing,
>> network printing (yes NETWORK printing), FAST (imagine 100-500
>> times faster than your color inkjet) and large paper trays.
>> Toner is expensive though, but it's a once every two year
>> purchase or so (more or less) and even then, mainly just
>> the black toner (cost $100 - 150USD).
>
> Hmm, this was not my experience with an HP Colour Laserjet 2550. It came with 4
> cartridges that were meant to be 4000 pages each. Each cartridge has a small
> 'smart' chip on it that keeps a count of the number of pages printed and it
> starts at 4000 and decrements each time it prints - and each time it rotates the
> cartridges round in the holder. What they don't say is that every day, possibly
> several times a day, it rotates the cartridges around the carousel to stop the
> toner from solidifying. Each time it does that, it decrements the page count
> even though it has not printed anything. With my printer, after it had printed
> 350 pages all the 'replace cartridge' lights started flashing and at £70 a pop
> it was going to cost £20 less than I paid for the entire printer to replace
> them. I checked every cartridge and they were all chock full of toner, it was
> just the 'smart chip' that was stopping it printing.
>
> I opened a call on the net with HP and the nice man in the USA said that there
> was a lifetime warranty on the cartridges and that I just needed to send them
> back and HP would replace them free of charge. Then he found that I was in the
> UK and told me that I had to contact HP UK who don't give a flying f*** and
> refuse point blank to do anything.
>
> Luckily there is a ready market in replacement 'smart chips' and I bought a
> stash of them on Ebay for $15 each or something and got them shipped to the UK.
> Total cost about £30. Replace the (misnamed) 'smart chips' and away it goes.
>
> Mind out for the hidden printing costs in HP printers.
>
Trevor,
That is why I will NEVER buy an HP product again! Last HP printer I had
was an HP 600, it was compatible with OS/2 Warp Connect that I was
running at the time. BTW, when is eCS 2.0GA coming out? I am still
waiting.