Ymessenger or Gaim no sound.

On 29 Jun 2003 15:18:46 -0700, BSL Admin <p.collishaw.RemoveThis@bluestarlinux.com> wrote:
> Im trying to use yahoo messenger (0.99.19) and / or gaim (v0.64) on a
> RH8 system.
>
>
> I do have sound working on the system () and can play CD's etc.
>
> However i cannot receive any sounds from either of the above 2
> programs, eg when a message is received, or someone buzzes <ding> me.
>
> Does anyone else have sound working on either of these 2 clients, or
> are both faulty.
>
> Any suggestions as what to try would be greatly appreciated. ( PS ,
> please no-one tell me to use windows, im trying to get rid oif that).


I don't use Yahoo Messenger because it crashes for me when it starts up
in Debian unstable. However, in Gaim 0.64 sound works quite well. As a
reference point, I am using a SBLive with the kernel drivers installed
into the kernel.

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mperry.RemoveThis@lnxpowered.org | http://www.lnxpowered.org

On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 BSL Admin wrote:

>Im trying to use yahoo messenger (0.99.19) and / or gaim (v0.64) on a
>RH8 system.
>
>I do have sound working on the system () and can play CD's etc.
>
>However i cannot receive any sounds from either of the above 2
>programs, eg when a message is received, or someone buzzes <ding> me.
>
>Does anyone else have sound working on either of these 2 clients, or
>are both faulty.

Yes. Have you configured your gaim to use the sounds? Post your
~/.gaimrc, this is what I have in mine.

+-----

<snip>

sound_files {
soundA { /usr/local/share/sounds/gaim/arrive.wav }
soundB { /usr/local/share/sounds/gaim/leave.wav }
soundC { /usr/local/share/sounds/gaim/receive.wav }

<snip>
+-----

You can do this in the gui, by going to

Tools --> Prefs --> Sound Events.

There you can test the .wav files you choose.

Gl.

>Any suggestions as what to try would be greatly appreciated. ( PS ,
>please no-one tell me to use windows, im trying to get rid oif that).

No one would. This is a linux NG remember

Eventually i managed to get sound working in gaim, it turns out that
it is a problem with the arts sound server that is used by
KDE3,(stopping the sound server allows the default gaim setup to play
sound) however digging deeper into gaim shows that it can use arts.

Im not sure about RedHat , but im able to use arts and gaim together
in Debian 3, and am currently writing a small doc on how to install
gaim on Debian.

Ymessenger is a different animal altogether, i cant get a peep out of
this, anyone any ideas?. ( I only want to use Ymessenger as it uses
the [CTRL-G] keystrokes to send a <ding> to other users, gaim doesnt
appear to do this, you have to type <ding>, whixh is a bit of a pain
if you use it a lot.



Vwakes <vwakeNOSPAM100.DeleteThis@softhome.net> wrote in message news:<Pine.LNX.4.55.0306291950270.4275.DeleteThis@xnqnccn.cvarzna>...
> On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 BSL Admin wrote:
>
> >Im trying to use yahoo messenger (0.99.19) and / or gaim (v0.64) on a
> >RH8 system.
> >
> >I do have sound working on the system () and can play CD's etc.
> >
> >However i cannot receive any sounds from either of the above 2
> >programs, eg when a message is received, or someone buzzes <ding> me.
> >
> >Does anyone else have sound working on either of these 2 clients, or
> >are both faulty.
>
> Yes. Have you configured your gaim to use the sounds? Post your
> ~/.gaimrc, this is what I have in mine.
>
> +-----
>
> <snip>
>
> sound_files {
> soundA { /usr/local/share/sounds/gaim/arrive.wav }
> soundB { /usr/local/share/sounds/gaim/leave.wav }
> soundC { /usr/local/share/sounds/gaim/receive.wav }
>
> <snip>
> +-----
>
> You can do this in the gui, by going to
>
> Tools --> Prefs --> Sound Events.
>
> There you can test the .wav files you choose.
>
> Gl.
>
> >Any suggestions as what to try would be greatly appreciated. ( PS ,
> >please no-one tell me to use windows, im trying to get rid oif that).
>
> No one would. This is a linux NG remember

How does this answer his question? He asked how to get sound working in
Gaim, and you recommend he use a completely different program! Perhaps
trying to help him with his problem rather than pushing your personal
preference would be a better approach.

I'm not trying to offend you, just pointing out that I think your response
is inappropriate.

"TPC" <tpwch DeleteThis @comhem.se> wrote in message
news:oprrjvdwybob87vt@news1.comhem.se...
> I would recommend you to take a look at jabber at www.jabber.org
> You can use Yabber to access common IM protocols like YIM or AIM or ICQ.
> and it also got its own protocol (that in my opinion is better than the
> others). The protocol specs are public relased wich means that there isn't
> just one client by one company, there is many clients for many different
> OS'es. check http://www.jabber.org/user/clientlist.php?Platform=Linux for
a
> list of Linux clients.

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:09:13 +1000, Johan Venter <jventer.TakeThisOut@writeme.com>
wrote:

> How does this answer his question? He asked how to get sound working in
> Gaim, and you recommend he use a completely different program! Perhaps
> trying to help him with his problem rather than pushing your personal
> preference would be a better approach.
>
> I'm not trying to offend you, just pointing out that I think your
> response
> is inappropriate.
>

I know that I didn't answer his question. I just told him of a system that
I think he might be intrested in, if he doesn't get the sound to work.

--
TPC
tpwch.TakeThisOut@comhem.se

It can be many reason for that. One and most likely to be is your sound
card it self. what kind of sound card you have and what driver it uses.

you can also see what applications at the moment using the sound
servers. do:

/usr/sbin/lsof | grep sound

and post it here.

best

BSL Admin wrote:
> Eventually i managed to get sound working in gaim, it turns out that
> it is a problem with the arts sound server that is used by
> KDE3,(stopping the sound server allows the default gaim setup to play
> sound) however digging deeper into gaim shows that it can use arts.
>
> Im not sure about RedHat , but im able to use arts and gaim together
> in Debian 3, and am currently writing a small doc on how to install
> gaim on Debian.
>
> Ymessenger is a different animal altogether, i cant get a peep out of
> this, anyone any ideas?. ( I only want to use Ymessenger as it uses
> the [CTRL-G] keystrokes to send a <ding> to other users, gaim doesnt
> appear to do this, you have to type <ding>, whixh is a bit of a pain
> if you use it a lot.
>
>
>
> Vwakes <vwakeNOSPAM100.TakeThisOut@softhome.net> wrote in message news:<Pine.LNX.4.55.0306291950270.4275.TakeThisOut@xnqnccn.cvarzna>...
>
>>On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 BSL Admin wrote:
>>
>> >Im trying to use yahoo messenger (0.99.19) and / or gaim (v0.64) on a
>> >RH8 system.
>> >
>> >I do have sound working on the system () and can play CD's etc.
>> >
>> >However i cannot receive any sounds from either of the above 2
>> >programs, eg when a message is received, or someone buzzes <ding> me.
>> >
>> >Does anyone else have sound working on either of these 2 clients, or
>> >are both faulty.
>>
>>Yes. Have you configured your gaim to use the sounds? Post your
>>~/.gaimrc, this is what I have in mine.
>>
>>+-----
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>sound_files {
>> soundA { /usr/local/share/sounds/gaim/arrive.wav }
>> soundB { /usr/local/share/sounds/gaim/leave.wav }
>> soundC { /usr/local/share/sounds/gaim/receive.wav }
>>
>><snip>
>>+-----
>>
>>You can do this in the gui, by going to
>>
>>Tools --> Prefs --> Sound Events.
>>
>>There you can test the .wav files you choose.
>>
>>Gl.
>>
>> >Any suggestions as what to try would be greatly appreciated. ( PS ,
>> >please no-one tell me to use windows, im trying to get rid oif that).
>>
>>No one would. This is a linux NG remember

Excuse me? Do you generally just abuse people for fun? I said nothing wrong,
have done nothing wrong and have offended no one. If this is how supposedly
"knowledgable" Linux users respond to people they consider to be not as
"l33t" as them, then I can understand why Microsoft still has the bulk of
the OS market share.

As for no one caring what I think, they don't have to --- this is a public
forum where people are allowed to post their opinions. I had the idea that
this newsgroup had some form of code of conduct that precluded complete and
utter verbal abuse. Obviously, I was wrong.

I don't mind if you disagree with me, but there is no call for blatant
abuse. I hope someone out there agrees with that -- if not, then I guess
manners and common decency are things of the past.

_.--- Johan Venter spoke in alt.os.linux --------._
> Excuse me? Do you generally just abuse people for fun?
> I said nothing wrong,

The point he was making was that you didn't actually offer anything
constructive. To quote him:

>> Even more "offensive" than someone offering a solution, or alternative
>> program that works *for them*,

You took time to post a reply criticizing something but you didn't
actually offer any advice that was "on topic". You didn't say "I use
this app" or "I have heard that people like..." or "if you go to
freshmeat and type in a few key words about what you are looking for
you will get an idea of what apps are available for that". This in
conjunction with posting to a linux group with a windows only
application[0] makes it seem like the only reason you came in her was
to complain. Which would be exactly what you just accused +Pope+
+Cibao+ of.

You have been using Linux for 2 more years than I have and yet you
failed to put any of that experience into actually helping the
original poster. Have you encountered this issue before? What advice
can you offer the OP? Complaining about rudeness isn't going to help
if you don't actually offer them anything solid to go on.

'---...____ Faux_Pseudo ________________...---~~~

[0] you can't really call it a news reader.

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> Well, this sentence doesn't make any sense, you've grouped two of my posts
> into one. I was complaining about +Cibao+'s rudeness, and yes, I didn't
give
> TPC anything to go on.

Correction: I didn't give BSL Admin anything to go on, I just replied in
response to TPC's post. Sorry for the typo.

Johan

On 30 Jun 2003 05:23:02 -0700, BSL Admin <p.collishaw DeleteThis @bluestarlinux.com> wrote:
> Eventually i managed to get sound working in gaim, it turns out that
> it is a problem with the arts sound server that is used by
> KDE3,(stopping the sound server allows the default gaim setup to play
> sound) however digging deeper into gaim shows that it can use arts.
>
> Im not sure about RedHat , but im able to use arts and gaim together
> in Debian 3, and am currently writing a small doc on how to install
> gaim on Debian.
>
> Ymessenger is a different animal altogether, i cant get a peep out of
> this, anyone any ideas?. ( I only want to use Ymessenger as it uses
> the [CTRL-G] keystrokes to send a <ding> to other users, gaim doesnt
> appear to do this, you have to type <ding>, whixh is a bit of a pain
> if you use it a lot.
>
>
>
I don't know if it would be any easier but I've also used this program
called centericq which is available as a debian package; but I've also
compiled it on a SuSE system as well. I don't recall about how it does
sound (or not) but perhaps it could be yet another alternative to try.

CenterICQ runs in a console window which can be (1) good or (2) bad
depending on your mood, feelings, or needs. If (1) strikes your fancy
then head on over to http://centericq.de/ and check it out.

I don't know whether it sends that "ding" or not but there is a lot of
information on the program at their website including forums and perhaps
a mailing list or two.

--
Michael Perry | Do or do not. There is no try. -Master Yoda
mperry DeleteThis @lnxpowered.org | http://www.lnxpowered.org

Sybren laid claim to the following perspective:
>
> Very well said. I don't understand either.

Personally I've given up on trying to understand and instead use what
I have learned to point out others (those who fall back on such
generalizations) that they are missing logic.

Mari

--
"A kiss that has no ropes, no strings no obligations,
I don't own you, be quite sure, you don't own me."
-- The Tear Garden 'In Search of My Rose'

+Cibao+ laid claim to the following perspective:
>
> Most of these children (and I use that phrasing intentionally) coming from
> any of the various "Candy Land" OS's available often have no _true_
> understanding of the word dedication, much less discipline.

True, though some of us are not quite hopeless. I spent many years
studying the use of, workings of and repair of windows circa 95 till
ME. I had prior experience with old (true) Basic from back in the
atari days (and I thank my brother for leaving it and the book in the
living room so often). I like to think that I am not beyond redemption
nor that I have lost so many brain cells to the flashy bloat^H^H^Hue
lights and motion of (stupid and hated) paperclips to cause me to lump
the rest of the world in inane fallicies.

Wow, way to many words.

> I've made a few vaguely worded references to this in the past
>
> "Subject: Re: OT: Top Posting - Learning Linux (LONG - and polite!)"
> Message-ID: <slrnacghgt.bs.Chiron_Files RemoveThis @raven.home>

Added to list of things to read.

> But, I've got another Zen parable that also sums all of this up, nicely:
<snip story of wisdom>

Ah, if only the rest of the world worked so simply. If it did, I would
own many many yard sticks and stock in said items.

*Thwak!*
'Good morning student'
"Whad'ya do dat for?"
*Thwak!*
"OOWWww! Now what"
'Good, you are awake and present'

> AutoZen
> http://www.linuxlabs.com/autozen.html

"The author has used AutoZen with good results, perhaps because he
meditates regularly, employs wishful thinking, or is just strange. We
make no warranty of any kind."

M$ would never be so honest and direct! Truely, no competition in my
mind.


Mari

--
"A kiss that has no ropes, no strings no obligations,
I don't own you, be quite sure, you don't own me."
-- The Tear Garden 'In Search of My Rose'

"Quasipsyco" <Quasipsyco@yahoo-.-com> wrote in message
> > As for no one caring what I think, they don't have to --- this is a
public
> > forum where people are allowed to post their opinions.
>
> I'm not going to go so far as to point out in detail the humor that is
> your choice of using this sentence in defense against a verbal
> 'attack'.

Yes, I do indeed see the irony in this. My whole post was on the back of a
lot of emotion - had a family medical emergency. I didn't really mean for
this to get started, I was just highly flustered.

> The law of averages says that there is probably someone else out there[..]

This is a great response, btw