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Eric Hameleers

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(Msg. 16) Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:20 pm
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Sylvain Robitaille schreef:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:56:34 +0000, Peter Chant wrote:
>
>> I think I upgraded the kernel, the lan, wifi and I think sound
>> chipsets were all very new stuff that was not in the default kernel
>> iirc.
>
> Ok, so Slackware with an upgraded kernel on the EeePC is good to go,
> then? I have a large SD card that I think I'm going to try installing
> Slackware-13.0 on to try booting the EeePC from. Am I aiming for
> disappointment, or should it be reasonably doable? Otherwise, I suppose
> an external hard drive, connected to the EeePC via USB might be just
> as good? The idea here is to get this working to my liking before
> contemplating replacing the original Xandros OS ...

I have Slackware 13.0 running on my own EeePC 1000HA - and all the
hardware is supported out of the box.
I have made an acpi-scripts Slackware package that enables some of the
buttons on the laptop.

If you have an EeePC 700 then my LXDE packages may be of use to you -
LXDE is a lightweight desktop environment with optionally an interface
that resembles the simple (but nice IMO) Xandros interface.

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Old Man

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(Msg. 17) Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:20 pm
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Sylvain Robitaille wrote:

> Ok, so Slackware with an upgraded kernel on the EeePC is good to go,
> then? I have a large SD card that I think I'm going to try installing
> Slackware-13.0 on to try booting the EeePC from. Am I aiming for
> disappointment, or should it be reasonably doable?

Very doable, and easy, with two caveats. It will be noticeably slow running
from an SD card, and you should not expect suspend/resume to work.

> Otherwise, I suppose
> an external hard drive, connected to the EeePC via USB might be just
> as good?

Better, as it will run at a more normal speed, but still, suspend/resume
will not work. This is not a Slackware issue. It has to do with the root
drive being on the USB bus.

> The idea here is to get this working to my liking before
> contemplating replacing the original Xandros OS ...



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Sylvain Robitaille

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(Msg. 18) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:20 pm
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:31:55 +0100, Eric Hameleers wrote:

> I have Slackware 13.0 running on my own EeePC 1000HA - and all the
> hardware is supported out of the box.

Good to know; thanks.

> I have made an acpi-scripts Slackware package that enables some of the
> buttons on the laptop.
>
> If you have an EeePC 700 then my LXDE packages may be of use to you -
> LXDE is a lightweight desktop environment with optionally an interface
> that resembles the simple (but nice IMO) Xandros interface.

Should I look in ~alien for these, or elsewhere?

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Sylvain Robitaille

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(Msg. 19) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:20 pm
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:37:08 -0400, Old Man wrote:

>> Ok, so Slackware with an upgraded kernel on the EeePC is good to go,
>> then? I have a large SD card that I think I'm going to try
>> installing Slackware-13.0 on to try booting the EeePC from. Am I
>> aiming for disappointment, or should it be reasonably doable?
>
> Very doable, and easy, with two caveats. It will be noticeably slow
> running from an SD card, and you should not expect suspend/resume to
> work.

I can live with that, at least long enough to decide that I can
reasonably overwrite the original OS installation on the SSD with
Slackware.

>> Otherwise, I suppose an external hard drive, connected to the EeePC
>> via USB might be just as good?
>
> Better, as it will run at a more normal speed, but still,
> suspend/resume will not work. This is not a Slackware issue. It has
> to do with the root drive being on the USB bus.

Again, I can live with that. I don't use the suspend/resume feature
very much so far, though if I ultimately replace the OS with Slackware
on the SSD, I'll likely have the EeePC with me more often and might get
more use out of it then. Thanks for your input.

Is it reasonable to boot the Slackware install CD on another system
(with a CD drive) and install to SD from there and then try and boot the
SD in the EeePC? (I know, I really just just try it and see for myself,
but the SD, the EeePC, and my Slackware CD set are all at home right now
....)

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Old Man

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(Msg. 20) Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:20 pm
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Sylvain Robitaille wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:37:08 -0400, Old Man wrote:
> Is it reasonable to boot the Slackware install CD on another system
> (with a CD drive) and install to SD from there and then try and boot the
> SD in the EeePC? (I know, I really just just try it and see for myself,
> but the SD, the EeePC, and my Slackware CD set are all at home right now
> ...)

That will work.

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Sylvain Robitaille

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(Msg. 21) Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:20 am
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:28:48 -0500, Old Man wrote:

>> Is it reasonable to boot the Slackware install CD on another system
>> (with a CD drive) and install to SD from there and then try and boot the
>> SD in the EeePC? ...
>
> That will work.

Excellent. Thank you.

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Ed Wilson

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(Msg. 22) Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:20 am
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Sylvain Robitaille wrote:


> Is it reasonable to boot the Slackware install CD on another system
> (with a CD drive) and install to SD from there and then try and boot the
> SD in the EeePC? (I know, I really just just try it and see for myself,
> but the SD, the EeePC, and my Slackware CD set are all at home right now
> ...)
>

That would work. I have also used virtualization to preform an installation
on a transplanted Hard drive. If you have enough RAM virtualization might
be faster because you could use the iso image rather than a burned disk and
utilize the faster Hard Drive. The biggest drawback to these two methods is
if the device node is different in the install environment than the target
machine, if it is you have to edit /etc/fstab and possibly reinstall lilo.

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Sylvain Robitaille

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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:20 pm
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:14:42 -0500, Ed Wilson wrote:

> ... The biggest drawback ... is if the device node is different in
> the install environment than the target machine, if it is you have to
> edit /etc/fstab and possibly reinstall lilo.

I'm reasonably comfortable with these aspects that they should not
present a problem if editting becomes necessary. Thanks.

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Peter Chant

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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:20 pm
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Old Man wrote:

> Sylvain Robitaille wrote:
>
>> Ok, so Slackware with an upgraded kernel on the EeePC is good to go,
>> then? I have a large SD card that I think I'm going to try installing
>> Slackware-13.0 on to try booting the EeePC from. Am I aiming for
>> disappointment, or should it be reasonably doable?
>
> Very doable, and easy, with two caveats. It will be noticeably slow
> running from an SD card, and you should not expect suspend/resume to work.

Personally I found Slax, on both eee and desktop not to be noticably slower.

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(Msg. 25) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:20 pm
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Sylvain Robitaille wrote:

> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:56:34 +0000, Peter Chant wrote:
>
>> I think I upgraded the kernel, the lan, wifi and I think sound
>> chipsets were all very new stuff that was not in the default kernel
>> iirc.
>
> Ok, so Slackware with an upgraded kernel on the EeePC is good to go,
> then? I have a large SD card that I think I'm going to try installing
> Slackware-13.0 on to try booting the EeePC from. Am I aiming for
> disappointment, or should it be reasonably doable? Otherwise, I suppose
> an external hard drive, connected to the EeePC via USB might be just
> as good? The idea here is to get this working to my liking before
> contemplating replacing the original Xandros OS ...
>

I tried running Slax on a 8GB SD card, but for Slackware 12.2 I simply used
dd to take an image of the SSD drive (mine has the 16GB SSD) and did a fresh
install. Then I built a new kernel. If you've got 4GB only on the 700 you
may need to be more selective in what you install. The basic process was:

Image SSD drive
Standard install of Slackware 12.2
- ensure use ext2 for file system
- tweak fstab acordingly (can't remember exact option but google netbook,
SSD, fstab ought to get you there)
- Build and install latest kernel
- Get wifi on/off keys working.



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