Move from KDE4.2 to xfce or fluxbox - why not?

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:16:39 -0400, "Aaron W. Hsu"
<arcfide DeleteThis @sacrideo.us> wrote:

>technical sense, flawed? You could argue that the new system is
>fundamentally less efficient, but I don't think you can, since the new
>system is more efficient in cases, and also tracks better with current
>Desktop practices on other systems. Whether you consider this a good thing
>or something that you like is up to you, but it doesn't mean that KDE is
>somehow bad.

Emulation is not innovation.

>addressable merits in Desktop environments. I don't think people want a
>Desktop that never changes. If that's what you want, you can always use
>TWM. 3.5 is still there, too, if you really can't learn a new workflow.

Sensible people don't install a new desktop in order to have some new
really kewl screensavers.

>So, try KDE again, but this time go into the Advanced Tab and select the
>Desktop search icon. From there, uncheck the Desktop indexer, and you
>should be alright.

Immediately will be done. As far as searching mc works just fine for
me and is one hell of a lot faster.

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On 2009-10-08, Ron Gibson <rsgibson.DeleteThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Yeah, I know how to set it up. What I should have said is try to
> remember what I did in the past to be able to select which desktop
> from the CLI. I don't like using gdm or kdm or whatever those things
> are.

After login:

$ startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fluxbox

.....or whatever desktops you have in installed in the above dir.

> I'm also going to try my best to change this KDE from an ugly clumsy
> beast into a more nimble desktop GUI.

Try fluxbox. Surprisingly fast.

nb

On 2009-10-08, notbob <notbob RemoveThis @nothome.com> wrote:
> On 2009-10-08, Ron Gibson <rsgibson RemoveThis @tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I know how to set it up. What I should have said is try to
>> remember what I did in the past to be able to select which desktop
>> from the CLI. I don't like using gdm or kdm or whatever those things
>> are.
>
> After login:
>
> $ startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fluxbox
>
> ....or whatever desktops you have in installed in the above dir.

Hah!! I've wanted to do this forever.

Now that I've been studying some basic scripting, I've learned enough
to be dangerous. Steal a little here, copy a little there, snip, add,
subtract, bwahahahah....

Here is my bash menu script to choose a wm/desktop from the login
prompt for the default choices in a full slack install. Naturally, I
make no guarantees and am not responsible if your dell laptop melts
down to a puddle of day-glo pink. I will say it works fine on my
slack 13 desktop and only if you don't have an x session already
running. It could no doubt use some refinement and added
functionality (like a 2nd x session), but I'll do that when I get
there. Enjoy:

----------------------

#!/bin/bash

while :
do
clear
echo " -== CHOOSE A DESKTOP ==- "
echo "1. blackbox"
echo "2. fluxbox"
echo "3. fvwm2"
echo "4. xfce"
echo "5. twm"
echo "6. wmaker"
echo "7. kde"
echo -n "Enter number of desktop:"
read opt

case $opt in
1) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.blackbox;;
2) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fluxbox;;
3) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fvwm2;;
4) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.xfce;;
5) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.twm;;
6) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.wmaker;;
7) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.kde;;
*) echo "$opt is an invaild option. Please select option between 1-7
only, or press C-c to exit.";
echo "Press [enter] key to continue. . .";
read enterKey;;
esac
done


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Feel free to dogpile. I need all the help I can get.

nb

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:35:14 GMT, notbob <notbob.RemoveThis@nothome.com> wrote:

>> After login:
>>
>> $ startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fluxbox
>>
>> ....or whatever desktops you have in installed in the above dir.

>Hah!! I've wanted to do this forever.

Darnit. I missed the OP's response somehow. Lots of traffic. Thanx for
the time saver. The ol' noggin is getting a bit rusty on memory.

>Now that I've been studying some basic scripting, I've learned enough
>to be dangerous. Steal a little here, copy a little there, snip, add,
>subtract, bwahahahah....

>Here is my bash menu script to choose a wm/desktop from the login
>prompt for the default choices in a full slack install. Naturally, I
>make no guarantees and am not responsible if your dell laptop melts
>down to a puddle of day-glo pink. I will say it works fine on my
>slack 13 desktop and only if you don't have an x session already
>running. It could no doubt use some refinement and added
>functionality (like a 2nd x session), but I'll do that when I get
>there. Enjoy:
>
>----------------------
>
>#!/bin/bash
>
>while :
>do
> clear
> echo " -== CHOOSE A DESKTOP ==- "
> echo "1. blackbox"
> echo "2. fluxbox"
> echo "3. fvwm2"
> echo "4. xfce"
> echo "5. twm"
> echo "6. wmaker"
> echo "7. kde"
> echo -n "Enter number of desktop:"
> read opt
>
> case $opt in
> 1) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.blackbox;;
> 2) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fluxbox;;
> 3) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fvwm2;;
> 4) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.xfce;;
> 5) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.twm;;
> 6) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.wmaker;;
> 7) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.kde;;
> *) echo "$opt is an invaild option. Please select option between 1-7
> only, or press C-c to exit.";
> echo "Press [enter] key to continue. . .";
> read enterKey;;
>esac
>done

Nice little script <SNATCH!> :=)

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On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:35:14 +0000, notbob wrote:

> On 2009-10-08, notbob <notbob RemoveThis @nothome.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-10-08, Ron Gibson <rsgibson RemoveThis @tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I know how to set it up. What I should have said is try to
>>> remember what I did in the past to be able to select which desktop
>>> from the CLI. I don't like using gdm or kdm or whatever those things
>>> are.
>>
>> After login:
>>
>> $ startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fluxbox
>>
>> ....or whatever desktops you have in installed in the above dir.
>
> Hah!! I've wanted to do this forever.
>
> Now that I've been studying some basic scripting, I've learned enough to
> be dangerous. Steal a little here, copy a little there, snip, add,
> subtract, bwahahahah....
>
> Here is my bash menu script to choose a wm/desktop from the login prompt
> for the default choices in a full slack install. Naturally, I make no
> guarantees and am not responsible if your dell laptop melts down to a
> puddle of day-glo pink. I will say it works fine on my slack 13 desktop
> and only if you don't have an x session already running. It could no
> doubt use some refinement and added functionality (like a 2nd x
> session), but I'll do that when I get there. Enjoy:
>
> ----------------------
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> while :
> do
> clear
> echo " -== CHOOSE A DESKTOP ==- "
> echo "1. blackbox"
> echo "2. fluxbox"
> echo "3. fvwm2"
> echo "4. xfce"
> echo "5. twm"
> echo "6. wmaker"
> echo "7. kde"
> echo -n "Enter number of desktop:"
> read opt
>
> case $opt in
> 1) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.blackbox;; 2) startx
> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fluxbox;; 3) startx
> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fvwm2;; 4) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.xfce;;
> 5) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.twm;; 6) startx
> /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.wmaker;; 7) startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.kde;;
> *) echo "$opt is an invaild option. Please select option between 1-7
> only, or press C-c to exit.";
> echo "Press [enter] key to continue. . ."; read enterKey;;
> esac
> done
>
>
> ------------------
>
> Feel free to dogpile. I need all the help I can get.
>
> nb

Looks good, I guess. Only thing I would ask is this: Is this any easier
than using 'xwmconfig' and pressing Enter a couple of times?


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Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:35:14 +0000, notbob did cat :

> On 2009-10-08, notbob <notbob.RemoveThis@nothome.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-10-08, Ron Gibson <rsgibson.RemoveThis@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I know how to set it up. What I should have said is try to
>>> remember what I did in the past to be able to select which desktop
>>> from the CLI. I don't like using gdm or kdm or whatever those things
>>> are.
>>
>> After login:
>>
>> $ startx /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.fluxbox
>>
>> ....or whatever desktops you have in installed in the above dir.
>
> Hah!! I've wanted to do this forever.
>
> Now that I've been studying some basic scripting, I've learned enough to
> be dangerous. Steal a little here, copy a little there, snip, add,
> subtract, bwahahahah....
>
....
> Feel free to dogpile. I need all the help I can get.
>
> nb

Sidney! Get out immediatly off this body!

On 2009-10-08, Dan C <youmustbejoking.DeleteThis@lan.invalid> wrote:

> Looks good, I guess. Only thing I would ask is this: Is this any easier
> than using 'xwmconfig' and pressing Enter a couple of times?

No, but it was a hoot creating it and I learned a couple things.

I didn't realize xwmconfig was user executable for local boot
default. Plus, my script leaves you in the the script till you C-c out,
which means you can go back and forth between diff wm's from my script.
That wasn't intentional, but it just worked out that way.

Another thing I learned is I started getting thrown back into wmaker
when resorting back to plain ol' startx, despite never having chosen
wmaker either globally as root or locally as user via xwmconfig.
Somewhere along the line my ~/.xinitrc file got changed. Go figure.
I fixed it.

My problem now is, k3b is whacked. Stalls on startup, regardless
of the wm I'm in, even kde, and I gotta manually kill it. If ain't
one thing....

nb

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:35:58 +0000, notbob wrote:

> On 2009-10-08, Dan C <youmustbejoking DeleteThis @lan.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Looks good, I guess. Only thing I would ask is this: Is this any
>> easier than using 'xwmconfig' and pressing Enter a couple of times?
>
> No, but it was a hoot creating it and I learned a couple things.

Cool.

> I didn't realize xwmconfig was user executable for local boot default.
> Plus, my script leaves you in the the script till you C-c out, which
> means you can go back and forth between diff wm's from my script. That
> wasn't intentional, but it just worked out that way.
>
> Another thing I learned is I started getting thrown back into wmaker
> when resorting back to plain ol' startx, despite never having chosen
> wmaker either globally as root or locally as user via xwmconfig.
> Somewhere along the line my ~/.xinitrc file got changed. Go figure. I
> fixed it.
>
> My problem now is, k3b is whacked. Stalls on startup, regardless of the
> wm I'm in, even kde, and I gotta manually kill it. If ain't one
> thing....

Weird. K3b is the one KDE app that I use, and it's OK for me here, under
Xfce. Maybe you could 'removepkg' on it and reinstall it.


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On 2009-10-08, Dan C <youmustbejoking.TakeThisOut@lan.invalid> wrote:

> Weird. K3b is the one KDE app that I use, and it's OK for me here, under
> Xfce. Maybe you could 'removepkg' on it and reinstall it.

It seems to be working ok, now. I can think of a couple issues that
might have caused a conflict, like inserting a CD in fluxbox with its
lack of automount features. Seems I gotta manually mount the cdrom
before firing up k3b. Not sure why it didn't work from kde. Sony
Vaios are kinda squirrely with their DRM hardware, despite good Asus
mobos.

nb

notbob wrote:
>
> My problem now is, k3b is whacked. Stalls on startup, regardless
> of the wm I'm in, even kde, and I gotta manually kill it. If ain't
> one thing....
>
> nb

Hmm, I thought 13 came with brasero instead of k3b. I could'a
missed something.
--
Bud

On 2009-10-08, Bud <bud RemoveThis @bud.invalid> wrote:

> Hmm, I thought 13 came with brasero instead of k3b. I could'a
> missed something.

Like the fact Slackware doesn't even have Gnome?

nb

On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:20:03 +0000, Bud wrote:

> notbob wrote:
>>
>> My problem now is, k3b is whacked. Stalls on startup, regardless of
>> the wm I'm in, even kde, and I gotta manually kill it. If ain't one
>> thing....
>>
>> nb
>
> Hmm, I thought 13 came with brasero instead of k3b. I could'a missed
> something.

Huh?

What are you smoking?


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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:42:55 -0400, Ron Gibson <rsgibson DeleteThis @tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

> It's much more sensible to simply share a tip if you have it rather
> than to suggest reinventing the wheel. And BTW, I was using Slackware
> before there even was a KDE desktop.

Here's a tip to improve Slackware's KDE 4.2 speed. Disable the File
Indexer in the Desktop Search Preferences in the System Settings. Doing so
will probably get you back another 500MB in usable RAM and actually give
your CPU the time to do real work. My KDE Desktop is very fast with that
one simple thing disabled, even given the Compiz and other graphics and
effects I have enabled. With File Indexing enabled, I could not get decent
performance from KDE: the indexer would constantly try to thrash the hard
drive and use lots of CPU cycles, while consuming way more RAM than it
needed.

Aaron W. Hsu

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