Move from KDE4.2 to xfce or fluxbox - why not?

On 2009-10-01, Aaron W. Hsu <arcfide.DeleteThis@sacrideo.us> wrote:

> How can you improve if you don't allow for learning new things?

I enjoy learning new things. If I didn't, I'd still be using Windows
98. Unfortunately, all kde is doing is saying, "Now that you've
learned to spell C-A-T, we're changing it to K-A-T". That's not
learning. It's just wasting my valuble time.

nb

Responding to Loki Harfagr:

>> Mind you, there is no substitute for just dropping your backed up
>> configs into IceWM
>
> that's because of that green kryptonite in your pocket or did you forgot
> to use ice-9 ?


Is that some kind of drop-in config checkbox thingie?

If so, I've not even bothered to find out whats available. I like the
"nail it in the config 'n forget it" facility in IceWM.

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On 2009-10-02, Mike Jones <Not.RemoveThis@Arizona.Bay> wrote:

> I heard ya, but sometimes there is something that ripples through
> everything and we just have to update ourselves accordingly.

I very much agree. In fact, I hadda update my box cuz it jes WOULDN'T
roll no mo. It was so old and slow, I couldn't even watch youtube or
news vids, online. So, I went out and bought a perfectly good used
sony vaio. Smokin'! ...at least until I loaded kde4.

> it's development, rather than skipping from one thing to another each
> time an upgrade doesn't fit with how you'd have liked things to go.

Precisely what I plan. At this point, I'm pretty contented using fb
while having kde loaded. I have nothing against most of kde's apps,
just their resource killing desktop. So, I have fb's speed and kde's
apps. Brilliant!

> Go find out, and feedback for those who are watching with interest.

Yeah. I try and get my discoveries back to aols, no matter how
amateurish. Some other newb may find them handy.

Right now I'm trying to learn more about automounting usb stuff, as
that's one of the things I lost with fb. No problem. I can still
manually mount till I figure it out and it's a good brain exercise. I
started trying to figure out hal/udev, before, but kde 3.5 came along
with automount and I said, why bother. Sometimes, someone else's
progress can kill your own progress.

nb

Responding to notbob:

[...]
>> Go find out, and feedback for those who are watching with interest.
>
> Yeah. I try and get my discoveries back to aols, no matter how
> amateurish. Some other newb may find them handy.


Newbies ask questions many can benefit from the answers to.

Those more than familiar with X, Y, and Z may never think to mention them.


> Right now I'm trying to learn more about automounting usb stuff, as
> that's one of the things I lost with fb. No problem. I can still
> manually mount till I figure it out and it's a good brain exercise. I
> started trying to figure out hal/udev, before, but kde 3.5 came along
> with automount and I said, why bother. Sometimes, someone else's
> progress can kill your own progress.


The luxury of "Do it for me" stuff is a trap where the mind stagnates.

Not a habit I'd recommend.

Nothing wrong with optimised automation, until\unless it turns it's users
into button pecking automated robot chickens.

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On 2009-10-02, Dan C <youmustbejoking.DeleteThis@lan.invalid> wrote:

> Jeezuz, I'm starting to agree more and more with Loki. Am I losing my
> mind?

I guess it jes depends on how you feel about trombones and fluffy
spaniels. Makes sense to me.

nb

On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:57:28 +0000, notbob wrote:

> On 2009-10-02, Dan C <youmustbejoking.TakeThisOut@lan.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Jeezuz, I'm starting to agree more and more with Loki. Am I losing my
>> mind?
>
> I guess it jes depends on how you feel about trombones and fluffy
> spaniels. Makes sense to me.

Yeah. Never had any thoughts, really, about trombones. I don't really
care much for fluffy spaniels, though. Just that word "fluffy" reminds
me of the ANC troll who used to offer up his spewage in here, but seems
to have dried up and blown away in the wind.


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Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:37:07 +0000, Dan C did cat :

> On Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:30:38 +0000, Loki Harfagr wrote:
>
>> Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:51:53 +0100, Peter Chant did cat :
>>
....
>> It is a depressing idea to my mind, when I read your post the visions
>> come up, and too close, of giant blue swinging staples and trombones
>> mating and barfing on brown fluffy spaniels. Really depressing, where
>> did I put my BFG9K again?->
>
> Jeezuz, I'm starting to agree more and more with Loki. Am I losing my
> mind?

more probable is that you stopped sniffing cyanolite and
brain cells are slowly reconnecting
Besides, I reckon that from time to time I try to
raise the lyrics up to a two digits Flesh RES ;->

>
> I always preferred the Railgun, though.

Oh yes, a funnier one indeed, but to zap a "gazillion" trombones
the BFG9K is certainly safer ;D)

On 2009-10-07, rm DeleteThis @realto.margarino.ca <rm DeleteThis @realto.margarino.ca> wrote:

> Knowing how to use the command line shell does not mean that you
> know anything more about linux. All it means is that you know more
> about the antiquated command line shell.

rm, meet Sidney. Sidney, meet rm. No matter meets anti matter and
and between them, they create it-doesn't-matter.

nb

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:21:07 GMT, notbob <notbob.RemoveThis@nothome.com> wrote:

>I'd appreciate your explaining how file indexing slows down KDE and
>how you disabled it. I certainly don't know and am a bit pissed I
>even need to. One of my main reasons for my abandoning KDE is the
>blatant speed hit from using it. I can plainly see how much slower
>the cursor moves across the screen when using apps like slrn or emacs
>in konsole. It is not insignificant.

I agree nb - it's a pig. It seems Vista inspired, which is a mistake
as even Intel said no to Vista (They will be using Win 7 however, for
those that care - I played with the Win 7 betas and it's not too bad,
certainly better than Vista).

I don't want a freakin PC that looks "purtty". I want a machine that
will process my different work tasks *quickly* and I don't feel like
waiting extra time for a window to "fade out".

If I want pretty I'll get an aquarium and set it on my desk.

>There can be no doubt KDE has some very good programs. I live in
>konsole and consider k3b brilliant. The desktop, OTOH, is quite
>another thing. I'll definitely be looking for app replacements if I
>have to suffer that trainwreck.

I've got to figure out how to run both XFCE and KDE I reckon.

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Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:38:46 +0000, notbob did cat :

> On 2009-10-07, rm RemoveThis @realto.margarino.ca <rm RemoveThis @realto.margarino.ca> wrote:
>
>> Knowing how to use the command line shell does not mean that you know
>> anything more about linux. All it means is that you know more about
>> the antiquated command line shell.
>
> rm, meet Sidney. Sidney, meet rm. No matter meets anti matter and and
> between them, they create it-doesn't-matter.

don't be so negative ~bob
after all when a turd slides into a pit it may help the soil sometime.

On 2009-10-07, Ron Gibson <rsgibson.TakeThisOut@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> waiting extra time for a window to "fade out".

No doubt spiraling/checkerboard disolves and transitions are right around the
corner. KDE has created a new "track". Krap.

nb

On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:00:20 +0000, rm.TakeThisOut@realto.margarino.ca wrote:

>cordially, as always,

>rm

Cordial on up to this eunuch...

8====================================>

So hello, gobbler, to Mr. Blinky

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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:38:46 +0000, notbob wrote:

<modquote>

> rm, meet Sidney. Sidney, meet rm. No matter meets anti matter and and
> between them, they create it-doesn't-matter.

</modquote>


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