Karmic Krapware: "a total disaster...embarrassed to say I'..

"I worked on trying to get this installed for three straight days and came
to the conclusion that this is a sorry excuse for the "best" Ubuntu release
yet. No matter what I tried, grub would not boot the system after the
installation. Many others in the forum are having the same problem, but no
one seems to know what's causing it or how to fix it. I did manage to get
9.10 installed by reinstalling 9.04, then installing all the updates via
update manager, then upgrading via update manager. The process went smoothly
but some things broke afterwards. Sound and wireless still work great;
that's always a plus. However, my video is just adequate. Although the
system recognized that my video card is an ATI Mobility 9000, there is no
driver installed for my chipset (generic open-vga driver). That means I have
to set my visual effects to "none" just to be able to see my desktop (it's
black otherwise). Screensavers don't work either. The resolution is the
right size though. Still annoying. By going the upgrade route (vs clean
install), I also missed out on the ext4 file system and the ability to
encrypt my home partition until login. I still can't believe this has been
so difficult. You shouldn't have to figure out how to hack grub for find a
"work around" to get it to boot on a new release.

I have to say, I think this particular release is the Microsoft Vista
equivalent....a total disaster that was released before it was ready. It
makes me embarrassed to say that I'm a fan of Ubuntu. There's no way I would
hand out 9.10 discs to friends or recommend it to anyone. I realize that
each release will have it's share of problems, but this is just ridiculous.
I really really hope that 10.4 will redeem Ubuntu.

Edit: I have now reinstalled 9.04. The problems in 9.10 were too numerous
and I don't have the time to mess with it when 9.04 works great."



#541 at
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic+freeze&page=55



Yep, it's the latest version of the flagship Linux distro, used by more
victims than any other.

All you cola "advocate$" should "upgrade" real soon now.

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:31:08 -0500, John Fuhrer wrote:

> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:35:36 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> "I worked on trying to get this installed for three straight days and
>> came to the conclusion that this is a sorry excuse for the "best"
>> Ubuntu release yet. No matter what I tried, grub would not boot the
>> system after the installation. Many others in the forum are having the
>> same problem, but no one seems to know what's causing it or how to fix
>> it. I did manage to get 9.10 installed by reinstalling 9.04, then
>> installing all the updates via update manager, then upgrading via
>> update manager. The process went smoothly but some things broke
>> afterwards. Sound and wireless still work great; that's always a plus.
>> However, my video is just adequate. Although the system recognized that
>> my video card is an ATI Mobility 9000, there is no driver installed for
>> my chipset (generic open-vga driver). That means I have to set my
>> visual effects to "none" just to be able to see my desktop (it's black
>> otherwise). Screensavers don't work either. The resolution is the right
>> size though. Still annoying. By going the upgrade route (vs clean
>> install), I also missed out on the ext4 file system and the ability to
>> encrypt my home partition until login. I still can't believe this has
>> been so difficult. You shouldn't have to figure out how to hack grub
>> for find a "work around" to get it to boot on a new release.
>>
>> I have to say, I think this particular release is the Microsoft Vista
>> equivalent....a total disaster that was released before it was ready.
>> It makes me embarrassed to say that I'm a fan of Ubuntu. There's no way
>> I would hand out 9.10 discs to friends or recommend it to anyone. I
>> realize that each release will have it's share of problems, but this is
>> just ridiculous. I really really hope that 10.4 will redeem Ubuntu.
>>
>> Edit: I have now reinstalled 9.04. The problems in 9.10 were too
>> numerous and I don't have the time to mess with it when 9.04 works
>> great."
>>
>>
>>
>> #541 at
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305924&highlight=Karmic
+freeze&page=55
>>
>>
>>
>> Yep, it's the latest version of the flagship Linux distro, used by more
>> victims than any other.
>>
>> All you cola "advocate$" should "upgrade" real soon now.
>
> Going back to 9.04 seems to be the solution for a lot of people. This
> release of Ubuntu 9.10 karmic is quickly becoming a public relations
> nightmare for Canonical.

No, it isn't.



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Rick