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Magnate

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 7:20 am
Post subject: Help with realaudio streams
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Hi all,

I have two machines, which we'll call A and B. A is a P4 3.2GHz, B is an
AthlonXP3200+, both have 2GB RAM and identical installations of Debian Lenny
for i386 (Gnome desktop). Both have the default Gnome browser (epiphany).

With just the default flash player installed (swfdec-mozilla), both get the
same error when I go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/radio/bbc_radio_four
and try to play anything. The error is "To listen to this station please
install RealPlayer". Neither machine will play TV streams from the same site
either (endless rotating white dots).

On A, I added the debian-multimedia repository and installed
flashplayer-mozilla and realplayer. Still no joy playing TV streams, and a
different error playing radio 4: "Not yet supported". So the BBC are saying
that the debian-multimedia version of realplayer is not the real realplayer,
as it were.

On B, I ignored realplayer altogether and installed the latest flash player
from the Adobe site. Not only do TV streams work perfectly, but radio
streams do too!! I asked a friend with the same setup how this could be, and
he tells me that Totem is playing the realaudio streams quite happily. I
don't understand why it wouldn't do so until the Adobe flash was installed,
but I'm not complaining.

So, I went back to A and purged both flashplayer-mozilla and realplayer.
Then I installed the Adobe version of flash. The TV streams work fine ...
but the radio streams are still saying "To listen to this station please
install RealPlayer"!! So somehow the installation and removal of realplayer
has prevented Totem from playing the streams as it does on B.

I'm guessing that this is something to do with the internal configuration of
epiphany - about what external helpers it calls for different media types.
Presumably the realaudio type is now set to "nothing" after I purged
realplayer, whereas on B it has always been set to "Totem", and this now
works. I don't know how to re-set epiphany to its default settings. There is
nothing in /etc/alternatives about realaudio streams (compared with several
entries for flash players).

Can anyone help me solve this problem? I have two machines with identical
software, one of which will play BBC radio and the other one won't. (I have
tried installing the proper RealPlayer11Gold for Linux from the realplayer
site, and I get the same "Not Yet Supported" error as when I tried the
debian-multimedia version of realplayer.)

Very grateful for any tips.

Regards,

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Robert Harris

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:20 am
Post subject: Re: Help with realaudio streams [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Magnate wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have two machines, which we'll call A and B. A is a P4 3.2GHz, B is an
> AthlonXP3200+, both have 2GB RAM and identical installations of Debian
> Lenny for i386 (Gnome desktop). Both have the default Gnome browser
> (epiphany).
>
> With just the default flash player installed (swfdec-mozilla), both get
> the same error when I go to
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/radio/bbc_radio_four and try to play
> anything. The error is "To listen to this station please install
> RealPlayer". Neither machine will play TV streams from the same site
> either (endless rotating white dots).
>
> On A, I added the debian-multimedia repository and installed
> flashplayer-mozilla and realplayer. Still no joy playing TV streams, and
> a different error playing radio 4: "Not yet supported". So the BBC are
> saying that the debian-multimedia version of realplayer is not the real
> realplayer, as it were.
>
> On B, I ignored realplayer altogether and installed the latest flash
> player from the Adobe site. Not only do TV streams work perfectly, but
> radio streams do too!! I asked a friend with the same setup how this
> could be, and he tells me that Totem is playing the realaudio streams
> quite happily. I don't understand why it wouldn't do so until the Adobe
> flash was installed, but I'm not complaining.
>
> So, I went back to A and purged both flashplayer-mozilla and realplayer.
> Then I installed the Adobe version of flash. The TV streams work fine
> ... but the radio streams are still saying "To listen to this station
> please install RealPlayer"!! So somehow the installation and removal of
> realplayer has prevented Totem from playing the streams as it does on B.
>
> I'm guessing that this is something to do with the internal
> configuration of epiphany - about what external helpers it calls for
> different media types. Presumably the realaudio type is now set to
> "nothing" after I purged realplayer, whereas on B it has always been set
> to "Totem", and this now works. I don't know how to re-set epiphany to
> its default settings. There is nothing in /etc/alternatives about
> realaudio streams (compared with several entries for flash players).
>
> Can anyone help me solve this problem? I have two machines with
> identical software, one of which will play BBC radio and the other one
> won't. (I have tried installing the proper RealPlayer11Gold for Linux
> from the realplayer site, and I get the same "Not Yet Supported" error
> as when I tried the debian-multimedia version of realplayer.)
>
> Very grateful for any tips.
>
> Regards,
>
> CC

If you look at:

about:plugins

where you would enter a URL from Firefox/iceweasel, it will tell you
what program your browser is using to play realaudio streams. You will
find some difference between A and B.

Robert
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Magnate

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:20 am
Post subject: Re: Help with realaudio streams [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Robert Harris" <robert.f.harris RemoveThis @blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
> If you look at:
>
> about:plugins
>
> where you would enter a URL from Firefox/iceweasel, it will tell you
> what program your browser is using to play realaudio streams. You will
> find some difference between A and B.

Thanks Robert - very helpful indeed. I think I've found a bug in the way
realplayer install/uninstall interacts with epiphany:

On a default Lenny/Gnome installation without the latest flash player, the
BBC website doesn't work in epiphany. For radio streams, the misleading
error message "Please install RealPlayer" is displayed. (For TV streams
there is no error, but they don't play using the default swfdec-mozilla
plugin.)

If the latest Adobe flash player is installed on a default Lenny/Gnome
installation, everything on the BBC website works fine. Realaudio streams
are played perfectly by the totem-complex plugin, and TV streams work fine
too.

If realplayer is installed (either from the debian-multimedia repo or
directly from the realplayer 11 deb on the realplayer site), radio streams
no longer work (though TV streams still work fine). The BBC site gives the
cryptic error "not yet supported". About:plugins shows that the realplayer
plugin (nphelix.so) is below the totem-complex plugin. For some reason
epiphany cannot play realaudio streams if both plugins are present. Manually
removing the totem-complex plugin (by deleting the symlinks in
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins) solves the problem - everything works again, with
realaudio streams played by the nphelix plugin.

If realplayer is uninstalled, the order of plugins is changed. The
totem-complex plugin appears above the adobe-flashplayer plugin, which means
that the BBC site gives the "Please install RealPlayer" error once again.
Uninstalling and reinstalling flash corrects the order of plugins and fixes
the problem.

So there are two problems with realplayer-and-epiphany:

1. The totem-complex plugin is not removed/superseded when realplayer is
installed

2. The plugin order is not preserved when realplayer is uninstalled.

Just in case anyone else was wondering about this .... maybe I should post
this to the Debian wiki .... I haven't filed a bug yet, but I intend to file
it against realplayer and see what happens.

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