Fedora Core 5

On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in article
<4ab4799f$0$3596$426a74cc@news.free.fr>, Sydney wrote:

>I am trying to install ndiswrapper in my system Fedora 10.95 (11).
>I found a linux Howto for Fedora Core 5.
>What is the difference between Core 5 and version 11 ?

About 3 years of development. FC5 came out in March 2006 with a 2.6.15
kernel (updated over life to 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5 released in April 2007).
Fedora 11 came out in June 2009 with a 2.6.29.4 kernel and has been
updated to 2.6.29.6. Do you know that your wireless device needs to
use ndiswrapper, or is there a driver _included_ in Fedora 11? The
procedure should not have changed much, although version numbers will
have changed between FC5 and F11. Have you also looked at the
ndiswrapper project web site at "ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/"

Old guy

"Moe Trin" <ibuprofin.TakeThisOut@painkiller.example.tld> a écrit dans le message de
news: slrnhbabf8.3n6.ibuprofin.TakeThisOut@compton.phx.az.us...
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in
> article
> <4ab4799f$0$3596$426a74cc@news.free.fr>, Sydney wrote:
>
>>I am trying to install ndiswrapper in my system Fedora 10.95 (11).
>>I found a linux Howto for Fedora Core 5.
>>What is the difference between Core 5 and version 11 ?
>
> About 3 years of development. FC5 came out in March 2006 with a 2.6.15
> kernel (updated over life to 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5 released in April 2007).
> Fedora 11 came out in June 2009 with a 2.6.29.4 kernel and has been
> updated to 2.6.29.6. Do you know that your wireless device needs to
> use ndiswrapper, or is there a driver _included_ in Fedora 11? The
> procedure should not have changed much, although version numbers will
> have changed between FC5 and F11. Have you also looked at the
> ndiswrapper project web site at "ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/"
>
> Old guy

"Moe Trin" <ibuprofin.TakeThisOut@painkiller.example.tld> a écrit dans le message de
news: slrnhbabf8.3n6.ibuprofin.TakeThisOut@compton.phx.az.us...
> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in
> article
> <4ab4799f$0$3596$426a74cc@news.free.fr>, Sydney wrote:
>
>>I am trying to install ndiswrapper in my system Fedora 10.95 (11).
>>I found a linux Howto for Fedora Core 5.
>>What is the difference between Core 5 and version 11 ?
>
> About 3 years of development. FC5 came out in March 2006 with a 2.6.15
> kernel (updated over life to 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5 released in April 2007).
> Fedora 11 came out in June 2009 with a 2.6.29.4 kernel and has been
> updated to 2.6.29.6. Do you know that your wireless device needs to
> use ndiswrapper, or is there a driver _included_ in Fedora 11? The
> procedure should not have changed much, although version numbers will
> have changed between FC5 and F11. Have you also looked at the
> ndiswrapper project web site at "ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/"
>
> Old guy

I know my wireless device needs ndiswrapper but I was told this piece of
software is included with version 11 of Fedora
Now I tried the folowing

[Cohen@compaq1391 ~]$ su -
Mot de passe :
[root@compaq1391 ~]# yum install kernel-devel kernel-headers
Modules complémentaires chargés : refresh-packagekit
rawhide/metalink | 21 kB 00:00
rawhide | 4.2 kB 00:00
rawhide/primary_db | 9.4 MB 00:09
Configuration du processus d'installation
Résolution des dépendances
--> Lancement de la transaction de test
---> Paquetage kernel-devel.i686 0:2.6.31-33.fc12 marqué pour être installé
---> Paquetage kernel-headers.i686 0:2.6.31-33.fc12 marqué pour être mis à
jour
--> Résolution des dépendances terminée

Dépendances résolues

================================================================================
Paquetage Architecture
Version Dépôt Taille

================================================================================
Installation:
kernel-devel i686 2.6.31-33.fc12 rawhide 5.1
M
kernel-headers i686 2.6.31-33.fc12 rawhide 651
k
Transaction Summary
================================================================================
Install 2 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)
Taille totale des téléchargement : 5.7 M
Est-ce correct [o/N] : o
Téléchargement des paquetages :
(1/2): kernel-devel-2.6.31-33.fc12.i686.rpm | 5.1 MB 00:05
(2/2): kernel-headers-2.6.31-33.fc12.i686.rpm | 651 kB 00:00
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Total 953 kB/s | 5.7 MB 00:06
Lancement de rpm_check_debug

ERREUR de résolution de dépendance par rpm_check_debug :
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in <module>
yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 309, in user_main
errcode = main(args)
File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 261, in main
return_code = base.doTransaction()
File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 421, in doTransaction
print to_utf8(msg)
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/codecs.py", line 351, in write
data, consumed = self.encode(object, self.errors)
UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xc3 in position 25:
ordinal not in range(128)

sorry for the english & french mixture. But as you can see there are
errors dues to loading of F12 stuff instead of F11
I need Hhelp to resolve this.

On Tuesday 22 September 2009 15:53, someone identifying as *Sydney*
wrote in /comp.os.linux.setup:/

> "Moe Trin" <ibuprofin RemoveThis @painkiller.example.tld> a écrit dans le message
> de news: slrnhbabf8.3n6.ibuprofin RemoveThis @compton.phx.az.us...
>
>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in
>> article
>> <4ab4799f$0$3596$426a74cc@news.free.fr>, Sydney wrote:
>>
>>>I am trying to install ndiswrapper in my system Fedora 10.95 (11).
>>>I found a linux Howto for Fedora Core 5.
>>>What is the difference between Core 5 and version 11 ?
>>
>> About 3 years of development. FC5 came out in March 2006 with a
>> 2.6.15 kernel (updated over life to 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5 released in
>> April 2007). Fedora 11 came out in June 2009 with a 2.6.29.4 kernel
>> and has been updated to 2.6.29.6. Do you know that your wireless
>> device needs to use ndiswrapper, or is there a driver _included_ in
>> Fedora 11? The procedure should not have changed much, although
>> version numbers will have changed between FC5 and F11. Have you
>> also looked at the ndiswrapper project web site at
>> "ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/"
>
> I know my wireless device needs ndiswrapper but I was told this piece
> of software is included with version 11 of Fedora

What Moe was asking about is whether your wireless device might have
a /native/ driver in Fedora 11. However, /ndiswrapper/ should already
be in FC 5 as well. On this old Mandrake system here, with kernel
2.6.3, it is also already present.

<snip>

> sorry for the english & french mixture. But as you can see there are
> errors dues to loading of F12 stuff instead of F11
> I need Hhelp to resolve this.

You need to use the /ndiswrapper/ that came with the kernel you are
using, i.e. this one:

/lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper

*Note:* Those "quotes" in the above path are not apostrophes but rather
what you would in French call an "accent grave". The shell will
substitute the command between these two accent graves by its output.

Hope this helps.

--
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

"Aragorn" <aragorn.RemoveThis@chatfactory.invalid> a écrit dans le message de news:
sw5um.143238$gY4.72500@newsfe08.ams2...
> On Tuesday 22 September 2009 15:53, someone identifying as *Sydney*
> wrote in /comp.os.linux.setup:/
>
>> "Moe Trin" <ibuprofin.RemoveThis@painkiller.example.tld> a crit dans le message
>> de news: slrnhbabf8.3n6.ibuprofin.RemoveThis@compton.phx.az.us...
>>
>>> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.setup, in
>>> article
>>> <4ab4799f$0$3596$426a74cc@news.free.fr>, Sydney wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am trying to install ndiswrapper in my system Fedora 10.95 (11).
>>>>I found a linux Howto for Fedora Core 5.
>>>>What is the difference between Core 5 and version 11 ?
>>>
>>> About 3 years of development. FC5 came out in March 2006 with a
>>> 2.6.15 kernel (updated over life to 2.6.20-1.2312.fc5 released in
>>> April 2007). Fedora 11 came out in June 2009 with a 2.6.29.4 kernel
>>> and has been updated to 2.6.29.6. Do you know that your wireless
>>> device needs to use ndiswrapper, or is there a driver _included_ in
>>> Fedora 11? The procedure should not have changed much, although
>>> version numbers will have changed between FC5 and F11. Have you
>>> also looked at the ndiswrapper project web site at
>>> "ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/"
>>
>> I know my wireless device needs ndiswrapper but I was told this piece
>> of software is included with version 11 of Fedora
>
> What Moe was asking about is whether your wireless device might have
> a /native/ driver in Fedora 11. However, /ndiswrapper/ should already
> be in FC 5 as well. On this old Mandrake system here, with kernel
> 2.6.3, it is also already present.
>
> <snip>
>
>> sorry for the english & french mixture. But as you can see there are
>> errors dues to loading of F12 stuff instead of F11
>> I need Hhelp to resolve this.
>
> You need to use the /ndiswrapper/ that came with the kernel you are
> using, i.e. this one:
>
> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper
>
> *Note:* Those "quotes" in the above path are not apostrophes but rather
> what you would in French call an "accent grave". The shell will
> substitute the command between these two accent graves by its output.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> --
> *Aragorn*
> (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

Here is a copy of the terminal

Cohen@compaq1391 ~]$ /lib/modules/'uname -r'/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper

bash: /lib/modules/uname -r/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper: Aucun fichier ou
dossier de ce type

[Cohen@compaq1391 ~]$

Remark the modules folder does contain kernel.

I don't know if I made something wrong or if my system is not documented.

The install of my Fedora 11 CD warns about non definitive system release.

Sydney wrote:

> Here is a copy of the terminal
>
> Cohen@compaq1391 ~]$ /lib/modules/'uname
> -r'/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper
>
> bash: /lib/modules/uname -r/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper: Aucun fichier
> ou dossier de ce type

You have mixed up single quotes and backticks (they are two different
things (i.e., `` vs. '')).
--
Not really a wanna-be, but I don't know everything.

On Wednesday 23 September 2009 09:26, someone identifying as *Sydney*
wrote in /comp.os.linux.setup:/

> "Aragorn" <aragorn.TakeThisOut@chatfactory.invalid> a écrit dans le message de
> news: sw5um.143238$gY4.72500@newsfe08.ams2...
>
>> You need to use the /ndiswrapper/ that came with the kernel you are
>> using, i.e. this one:
>>
>> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper
>>
>> *Note:* Those "quotes" in the above path are not apostrophes but
>> rather what you would in French call an "accent grave". The shell
>> will substitute the command between these two accent graves by its
>> output.
>
> Here is a copy of the terminal
>
> Cohen@compaq1391 ~]$ /lib/modules/'uname
> -r'/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper
>
> bash: /lib/modules/uname -r/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper: Aucun fichier
> ou dossier de ce type
>
> [Cohen@compaq1391 ~]$
>
> Remark the modules folder does contain kernel.
>
> I don't know if I made something wrong or if my system is not
> documented.

Yes, you did something wrong, because you did not use an "accent
grave" (`) but an apostrophe (')
instead.  So in the ls command that you have used, "uname -" is
considered a literal string, and thus a directory.  This is not what
you want.  What you want is to have "uname -r" substituted by the
output of the command...

        uname -r

.... itself.

An apostrophe is seen by the shell as a quote, meaning that it will
consider that which is between apostrophes (') or double quotes (") as
being a literal string of text.

You need to use the "accent grave" instead - on my Belgian keyboard,
this is obtained by pressing and holding the AltGr key and then
pressing the key with the ` character twice.  Again on my Belgian
keyboard, this key is the one right next to the Return key and
(underneath the key with the dollar sign and the asterisk), with as
normal character the µ (micron symbol) and as Shifted character the £
(British Pound symbol).

When you include a command delimited by "accent graves" in a text
string, the shell will execute the command and substitute its place in
the string by the command's output.

--
*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)

I demand that Sydney may or may not have written...

> "Aragorn" <aragorn.DeleteThis@chatfactory.invalid> a écrit dans le message de news:
> sw5um.143238$gY4.72500@newsfe08.ams2...
[snip]
>> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper
>> *Note:* Those "quotes" in the above path are not apostrophes but rather
>> what you would in French call an "accent grave". The shell will
>> substitute the command between these two accent graves by its output.
[snip]
> Here is a copy of the terminal

> Cohen@compaq1391 ~]$ /lib/modules/'uname -r'/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper

"`", not "'", as you've already been told

[snip]
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Am Donnerstag 24 September 2009 16:56, Aragorn a écrit :

> On Wednesday 23 September 2009 09:26, someone identifying as *Sydney*
> wrote in /comp.os.linux.setup:/
>
>> Cohen@compaq1391 ~]$ /lib/modules/'uname -r'/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper
>
> Yes, you did something wrong, because you did not use an
> "accent grave" (`) but an apostrophe (') instead.

Unfortunately, backticks (accents graves) look an awful lot like
apostrophes in some typefaces. Another excellent reason to use
the "$(...)" notation instead :

ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/3rdparty/ndiswrapper

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