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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:20 am
Post subject: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - Canonical "should be worried" about the "huge disappointment"
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Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala
Posted: 3rd November 2009 03:36 GMT
Ubuntu 9.10 is causing outrage and frustration, with early adopters wishing
they'd stuck with previous versions of the Linux distro.
Blank and flickering screens, failure to recognize hard drives, defaulting
to the old 2.6.28 Linux kernel, and failure to get encryption running are
taking their toll, as early adopters turn to the web for answers and log
fresh bug reports in Ubuntu forums.
Canonical and Ubuntu should be worried. Typically, it's the more technical
users overall who install Ubuntu - and early adopters tend to be the most
technical of the technical.
If these people are experiencing problems they cannot solve, then the
outlook for Ubuntu among a broader, less technical consumer base -
especially on prized netbooks against Windows 7 - is not great.
Motoh called Ubuntu 9.10 "a huge disappointment", writing "All in all, a
very underwhelming release. You can do better, Canonical."
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:20 am
Post subject: Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - Canonical "should be worried" about the "huge disappointment" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Ezekiel" <zeke-win7 DeleteThis @noteverywhere.com> writes:
> <quote>
> Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala
> Posted: 3rd November 2009 03:36 GMT
>
> Ubuntu 9.10 is causing outrage and frustration, with early adopters wishing
> they'd stuck with previous versions of the Linux distro.
>
> Blank and flickering screens, failure to recognize hard drives, defaulting
> to the old 2.6.28 Linux kernel, and failure to get encryption running are
> taking their toll, as early adopters turn to the web for answers and log
> fresh bug reports in Ubuntu forums.
>
> Canonical and Ubuntu should be worried. Typically, it's the more technical
> users overall who install Ubuntu - and early adopters tend to be the most
> technical of the technical.
>
> If these people are experiencing problems they cannot solve, then the
> outlook for Ubuntu among a broader, less technical consumer base -
> especially on prized netbooks against Windows 7 - is not great.
>
> Motoh called Ubuntu 9.10 "a huge disappointment", writing "All in all, a
> very underwhelming release. You can do better, Canonical."
> </quote>
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
>
Obviously all liars and Wintrolls.
I mean : Chris Ahlstrom said his 64 bit Debian "works"...... |
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:20 am
Post subject: Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - Canonical "should be worried" about the "huge disappointment" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:09:48 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
> <quote>
> Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala
> Posted: 3rd November 2009 03:36 GMT
>
> Ubuntu 9.10 is causing outrage and frustration, with early adopters wishing
> they'd stuck with previous versions of the Linux distro.
>
> Blank and flickering screens, failure to recognize hard drives, defaulting
> to the old 2.6.28 Linux kernel, and failure to get encryption running are
> taking their toll, as early adopters turn to the web for answers and log
> fresh bug reports in Ubuntu forums.
>
> Canonical and Ubuntu should be worried. Typically, it's the more technical
> users overall who install Ubuntu - and early adopters tend to be the most
> technical of the technical.
>
> If these people are experiencing problems they cannot solve, then the
> outlook for Ubuntu among a broader, less technical consumer base -
> especially on prized netbooks against Windows 7 - is not great.
>
> Motoh called Ubuntu 9.10 "a huge disappointment", writing "All in all, a
> very underwhelming release. You can do better, Canonical."
> </quote>
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
He can add:
Screwed up sound
Broken Samba
Broken nvidia settings
Broken video
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:25 pm
Post subject: Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - Canonical [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:43:23 +0100, Hadron wrote:
> "Ezekiel" <zeke-win7.DeleteThis@noteverywhere.com> writes:
>
>> <quote>
>> Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala Posted: 3rd November
>> 2009 03:36 GMT
>>
>> Ubuntu 9.10 is causing outrage and frustration, with early adopters
>> wishing they'd stuck with previous versions of the Linux distro.
>>
>> Blank and flickering screens, failure to recognize hard drives,
>> defaulting to the old 2.6.28 Linux kernel, and failure to get
>> encryption running are taking their toll, as early adopters turn to the
>> web for answers and log fresh bug reports in Ubuntu forums.
>>
>> Canonical and Ubuntu should be worried. Typically, it's the more
>> technical users overall who install Ubuntu - and early adopters tend to
>> be the most technical of the technical.
>>
>> If these people are experiencing problems they cannot solve, then the
>> outlook for Ubuntu among a broader, less technical consumer base -
>> especially on prized netbooks against Windows 7 - is not great.
>>
>> Motoh called Ubuntu 9.10 "a huge disappointment", writing "All in all,
>> a very underwhelming release. You can do better, Canonical." </quote>
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
>>
>>
> Obviously all liars and Wintrolls.
>
> I mean : Chris Ahlstrom said his 64 bit Debian "works"......
Windows 7 fails on TV
<http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/10/23/fail-windows-7-crashes-during-live-
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:27 pm
Post subject: Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - Canonical [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:29:42 -0500, John Fuhrer wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:09:48 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> <quote>
>> Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala Posted: 3rd November
>> 2009 03:36 GMT
>>
>> Ubuntu 9.10 is causing outrage and frustration, with early adopters
>> wishing they'd stuck with previous versions of the Linux distro.
>>
>> Blank and flickering screens, failure to recognize hard drives,
>> defaulting to the old 2.6.28 Linux kernel, and failure to get
>> encryption running are taking their toll, as early adopters turn to the
>> web for answers and log fresh bug reports in Ubuntu forums.
>>
>> Canonical and Ubuntu should be worried. Typically, it's the more
>> technical users overall who install Ubuntu - and early adopters tend to
>> be the most technical of the technical.
>>
>> If these people are experiencing problems they cannot solve, then the
>> outlook for Ubuntu among a broader, less technical consumer base -
>> especially on prized netbooks against Windows 7 - is not great.
>>
>> Motoh called Ubuntu 9.10 "a huge disappointment", writing "All in all,
>> a very underwhelming release. You can do better, Canonical." </quote>
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
>
> He can add:
>
> Screwed up sound
> Broken Samba
> Broken nvidia settings
> Broken video
>
> to the list.
Windows 7 Upgrade Woes Mount: Endless Reboots and Product Key Problems
http://www.pcworld.com/article/174342/
windows_7_upgrade_woes_mount_endless_reboots_and_product_key_problems.html
Students find problems with Windows 7 upgrade
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10382953-56.html
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:11 am
Post subject: Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - Canonical [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hadron pulled this Usenet boner:
> I mean : Chris Ahlstrom said his 64 bit Debian "works"......
It does! Wonderfully!
As does 64-bit Fedora.
Thanks for caring, "Hadron". You're swell!
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:20 am
Post subject: Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - Canonical "should be worried" about the "huge disappointment" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc DeleteThis @launchmodem.com> writes:
> Hadron pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> I mean : Chris Ahlstrom said his 64 bit Debian "works"......
>
> It does! Wonderfully!
>
> As does 64-bit Fedora.
>
> Thanks for caring, "Hadron". You're swell!
So does my 32 bit one. Generally.
But what the hell that has to do with a new release of Ubuntu is
anyones guess. |
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:20 am
Post subject: Re: Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - no disappointment [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, Chris Ahlstrom was heard to
say:
> Hadron pulled this Usenet boner:
>
>> I mean : Chris Ahlstrom said his 64 bit Debian "works"......
>
> It does! Wonderfully!
>
> As does 64-bit Fedora.
As does 64-bit Kubuntu.
As does 64-bit Mandriva.
> Thanks for caring, "Hadron". You're swell!
The little twoll's jealous 'cos he can't get a 64-bit distro installed
properly.
Changed subject line. 
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:20 am
Post subject: Re: Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - no disappointment [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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William Poaster wrote:
> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, Chris Ahlstrom was heard to
> say:
>
>> Hadron pulled this Usenet boner:
>>
>>> I mean : Chris Ahlstrom said his 64 bit Debian "works"......
>>
>> It does! Wonderfully!
>>
>> As does 64-bit Fedora.
>
> As does 64-bit Kubuntu.
>
> As does 64-bit Mandriva.
>
>> Thanks for caring, "Hadron". You're swell!
>
> The little twoll's jealous 'cos he can't get a 64-bit distro installed
> properly.
For that matter: He can't get a 32bit install too
Well, being a Snot Michael Glasser "student" certainly has some drawbacks
> Changed subject line.
>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:20 am
Post subject: Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - Canonical "should be worried" about the "huge disappointment" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:s6ymze1k8o1f$.1vqv29m577t2r$.dlg@40tude.net...
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:09:48 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> <quote>
>> Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala
>> Posted: 3rd November 2009 03:36 GMT
>>
>> Ubuntu 9.10 is causing outrage and frustration, with early adopters
>> wishing
>> they'd stuck with previous versions of the Linux distro.
>>
>> Blank and flickering screens, failure to recognize hard drives,
>> defaulting
>> to the old 2.6.28 Linux kernel, and failure to get encryption running
>> are
>> taking their toll, as early adopters turn to the web for answers and log
>> fresh bug reports in Ubuntu forums.
>>
>> Canonical and Ubuntu should be worried. Typically, it's the more
>> technical
>> users overall who install Ubuntu - and early adopters tend to be the
>> most
>> technical of the technical.
>>
>> If these people are experiencing problems they cannot solve, then the
>> outlook for Ubuntu among a broader, less technical consumer base -
>> especially on prized netbooks against Windows 7 - is not great.
>>
>> Motoh called Ubuntu 9.10 "a huge disappointment", writing "All in all, a
>> very underwhelming release. You can do better, Canonical."
>> </quote>
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
>
> He can add:
>
> Screwed up sound
> Broken Samba
> Broken nvidia settings
> Broken video
>
> to the list.
Shuttleworth and everyone else over at Canonical should make a public
apology for unleashing this disaster on unsuspecting users. But I'm sure
that the Lethargic Lemming release will fix everything. |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:20 am
Post subject: Re: Ubuntu's Karmic Koala -a huge disappointment. Read the blogs. [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:52:11 +0000, William Poaster wrote:
> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, Chris Ahlstrom was heard to
> say:
>
>> Hadron pulled this Usenet boner:
>>
>>> I mean : Chris Ahlstrom said his 64 bit Debian "works"......
>>
>> It does! Wonderfully!
>>
>> As does 64-bit Fedora.
>
> As does 64-bit Kubuntu.
>
> As does 64-bit Mandriva.
>
>> Thanks for caring, "Hadron". You're swell!
>
> The little twoll's jealous 'cos he can't get a 64-bit distro installed
> properly.
If it's Ubuntu 9.10 you actually have a point. |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:39 am
Post subject: Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala - Canonical "should be worried" about the "huge disappointment" [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:12:23 +0100, Hadron wrote:
> Chris Ahlstrom <ahlstromc DeleteThis @launchmodem.com> writes:
>
>> Hadron pulled this Usenet boner:
>>
>>> I mean : Chris Ahlstrom said his 64 bit Debian "works"......
>>
>> It does! Wonderfully!
>>
>> As does 64-bit Fedora.
>>
>> Thanks for caring, "Hadron". You're swell!
>
> So does my 32 bit one. Generally.
>
> But what the hell that has to do with a new release of Ubuntu is
> anyones guess.
Ahlstrom has his marching orders to take the focus off of the miserable,
bug riddled Ubuntu 9.10 karmic.
Roy has been training him well. |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:40 am
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On 2009-11-04, Ezekiel <zeke.TakeThisOut@nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
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> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:s6ymze1k8o1f$.1vqv29m577t2r$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:09:48 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala
>>> Posted: 3rd November 2009 03:36 GMT
[deletia]
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
>>
>> He can add:
>>
>> Screwed up sound
>> Broken Samba
>> Broken nvidia settings
>> Broken video
>>
>> to the list.
>
> Shuttleworth and everyone else over at Canonical should make a public
> apology for unleashing this disaster on unsuspecting users. But I'm sure
> that the Lethargic Lemming release will fix everything.
....this is much like the repeated Microsoft promises of "this version
is fixed and we did it right this time".
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:41 am
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:41:19 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
> "John Fuhrer" <fuhrer_spam_no_joh.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:s6ymze1k8o1f$.1vqv29m577t2r$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:09:48 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala
>>> Posted: 3rd November 2009 03:36 GMT
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 9.10 is causing outrage and frustration, with early adopters
>>> wishing
>>> they'd stuck with previous versions of the Linux distro.
>>>
>>> Blank and flickering screens, failure to recognize hard drives,
>>> defaulting
>>> to the old 2.6.28 Linux kernel, and failure to get encryption running
>>> are
>>> taking their toll, as early adopters turn to the web for answers and log
>>> fresh bug reports in Ubuntu forums.
>>>
>>> Canonical and Ubuntu should be worried. Typically, it's the more
>>> technical
>>> users overall who install Ubuntu - and early adopters tend to be the
>>> most
>>> technical of the technical.
>>>
>>> If these people are experiencing problems they cannot solve, then the
>>> outlook for Ubuntu among a broader, less technical consumer base -
>>> especially on prized netbooks against Windows 7 - is not great.
>>>
>>> Motoh called Ubuntu 9.10 "a huge disappointment", writing "All in all, a
>>> very underwhelming release. You can do better, Canonical."
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/karmic_koala_frustration/
>>
>> He can add:
>>
>> Screwed up sound
>> Broken Samba
>> Broken nvidia settings
>> Broken video
>>
>> to the list.
>
> Shuttleworth and everyone else over at Canonical should make a public
> apology for unleashing this disaster on unsuspecting users. But I'm sure
> that the Lethargic Lemming release will fix everything.
They should because Ubuntu 9.10 karmic is really *that* bad.
However they will simply start fudding the next release claiming the bugs
will be fixed in that release and leave the victims on their own for the
most part.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:20 am
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John Fuhrer <fuhrer_spam_no_joh DeleteThis @yahoo.com> writes:
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 13:52:11 +0000, William Poaster wrote:
>
>> Above the wailing & moaning of the trolls, Chris Ahlstrom was heard to
>> say:
>>
>>> Hadron pulled this Usenet boner:
>>>
>>>> I mean : Chris Ahlstrom said his 64 bit Debian "works"......
>>>
>>> It does! Wonderfully!
>>>
>>> As does 64-bit Fedora.
>>
>> As does 64-bit Kubuntu.
>>
>> As does 64-bit Mandriva.
>>
>>> Thanks for caring, "Hadron". You're swell!
>>
>> The little twoll's jealous 'cos he can't get a 64-bit distro installed
>> properly.
>
> If it's Ubuntu 9.10 you actually have a point.
I did try Debian 64 bit about 2 years ago I think it was. It was not
noticeably faster than 32 bit and various things did not work. So I went
back to 32 bit. Why would I even need 64 bit? My development machine
runs FINE with 2 gigs of memory and an Intel 2 core duo.
Ahlstrom crowing about his amount of bits reeks of fanboi. |
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