Canonical bribes reporter with free Linux netbook - But he..

Rick stated in post toqdnfXmO5W7iHPXnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d DeleteThis @supernews.com on
11/1/09 4:09 PM:

> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> <quote>
>> Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10 and
>> send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory likes the
>> faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that seems to be the
>> only thing he liked.
>>
>> So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant on
>> a machine I already owned?
>> To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any simpler
>> and more pleasurable than it is now.
>>
>> </quote>
>>
>> http://techie-buzz.com/ubuntu/bbc-breakfast-talk-ubuntu-9-1-karmic-
> koala.html
>
> Wow... you are really desperate...
>
>
The question is a reasonable one: there are user benefits to OS X and user
benefits to Windows... what user benefits are there to Ubuntu? In the past
some have been listed; like OS X it does not have a malware problem,
software installation... um... what else?


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On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel <zeke.RemoveThis@nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
><quote>
>Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10 and
>send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory likes the
>faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that seems to be the only
>thing he liked.

>So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant on a
>machine I already owned?
>To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any simpler
>and more pleasurable than it is now.

></quote>

http://digg.com/hardware/Microsoft_bribing_bloggers_with_free_high_spec_laptops

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:28:30 -0700, Snit wrote:

> Rick stated in post toqdnfXmO5W7iHPXnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d DeleteThis @supernews.com on
> 11/1/09 4:09 PM:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10
>>> and send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory likes
>>> the faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that seems to be
>>> the only thing he liked.
>>>
>>> So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant
>>> on a machine I already owned?
>>> To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any
>>> simpler and more pleasurable than it is now.
>>>
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> http://techie-buzz.com/ubuntu/bbc-breakfast-talk-ubuntu-9-1-karmic-
>> koala.html
>>
>> Wow... you are really desperate...
>>
>>
> The question is a reasonable one: there are user benefits to OS X (snip)

Don't care . No use going on.

You sure are begging for my attention a lot this afternoon.

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Rick stated in post toqdnfDmO5WcgnPXnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d.DeleteThis@supernews.com on
11/1/09 4:51 PM:

> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:28:30 -0700, Snit wrote:
>
>> Rick stated in post toqdnfXmO5W7iHPXnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d.DeleteThis@supernews.com on
>> 11/1/09 4:09 PM:
>>
>>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10
>>>> and send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory likes
>>>> the faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that seems to be
>>>> the only thing he liked.
>>>>
>>>> So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant
>>>> on a machine I already owned?
>>>> To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any
>>>> simpler and more pleasurable than it is now.
>>>>
>>>> </quote>
>>>>
>>>> http://techie-buzz.com/ubuntu/bbc-breakfast-talk-ubuntu-9-1-karmic-
>>> koala.html
>>>
>>> Wow... you are really desperate...
>>>
>>>
>> The question is a reasonable one: there are user benefits to OS X (snip)
>
> Don't care . No use going on.

Why do you share the fact you are running? Just not responding would be a
better way to deal with your fear.

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On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:57:57 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:

> "AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3.TakeThisOut@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
> news:slrnhes62e.5tn.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel <zeke.TakeThisOut@nosuchdomain.com>
>> wrote:
>>><quote>
>>>Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10
>>>and send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory likes
>>>the faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that seems to be
>>>the only
>>>thing he liked.
>>
>>>So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant
>>>on a
>>>machine I already owned?
>>>To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any
>>>simpler and more pleasurable than it is now.
>>
>>></quote>
>>
>>
> I agree that it's shameless how Linux tries to bribe reporters with free
> computers. But even with the bribes, the reporters want nothing to do
> with Linux.

.... so it's OK for Microsoft to bribe reporters with free computers?

BTW, I don't remember reading in your article that the computer the
reporter was using was a gift. Did I miss that?



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On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:57:57 -0500, Ezekiel <zeke DeleteThis @nosuchdomain.com> wrote:

>"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3 DeleteThis @PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
>news:slrnhes62e.5tn.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel <zeke DeleteThis @nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
>>><quote>
>>>Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10 and
>>>send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory likes the
>>>faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that seems to be the
>>>only
>>>thing he liked.
>>
>>>So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant on
>>>a
>>>machine I already owned?
>>>To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any simpler
>>>and more pleasurable than it is now.
>>
>>></quote>
>>

>I agree that it's shameless how Linux tries to bribe reporters with free
>computers. But even with the bribes, the reporters want nothing to do with
>Linux.

What is sad is that you can't tell the difference between a $350 netbook
and a $2300 high end laptop.

On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:04:37 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:

> "Rick" <none DeleteThis @mail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:3POdnfl6wucNvXPXnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@supernews.com...
>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:57:57 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> "AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3 DeleteThis @PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
>>> news:slrnhes62e.5tn.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>>>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel <zeke DeleteThis @nosuchdomain.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>><quote>
>>>>>Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10
>>>>>and send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory
>>>>>likes the faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that
>>>>>seems to be the only
>>>>>thing he liked.
>>>>
>>>>>So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant
>>>>>on a
>>>>>machine I already owned?
>>>>>To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any
>>>>>simpler and more pleasurable than it is now.
>>>>
>>>>></quote>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I agree that it's shameless how Linux tries to bribe reporters with
>>> free computers. But even with the bribes, the reporters want nothing
>>> to do with Linux.
>>
>>
>> BTW, I don't remember reading in your article that the computer the
>> reporter was using was a gift. Did I miss that?
>
> As usual, you did miss it. Ask your big sister to help you read the
> article.

OK... so I missed it. Now, why is it OK for Microsoft to bribe reporters?



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AZ Nomad wrote:

> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel <zeke DeleteThis @nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
>><quote>
>>Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10 and
>>send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory likes the
>>faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that seems to be the
>>only thing he liked.
>
>>So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant on a
>>machine I already owned?
>>To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any simpler
>>and more pleasurable than it is now.
>
>></quote>
>
>
http://digg.com/hardware/Microsoft_bribing_bloggers_with_free_high_spec_laptops

Righteous !!
At least Microsoft gives away decent hardware.
Works great too !

"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3.RemoveThis@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
news:slrnhes62e.5tn.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel <zeke.RemoveThis@nosuchdomain.com> wrote:
>><quote>
>>Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10 and
>>send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory likes the
>>faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that seems to be the
>>only
>>thing he liked.
>
>>So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant on
>>a
>>machine I already owned?
>>To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any simpler
>>and more pleasurable than it is now.
>
>></quote>
>

I agree that it's shameless how Linux tries to bribe reporters with free
computers. But even with the bribes, the reporters want nothing to do with
Linux.

"Rick" <none.RemoveThis@mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:3POdnfl6wucNvXPXnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@supernews.com...
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:57:57 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>
>> "AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3.RemoveThis@PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message
>> news:slrnhes62e.5tn.aznomad.3@ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net...
>>> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel <zeke.RemoveThis@nosuchdomain.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>><quote>
>>>>Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10
>>>>and send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory likes
>>>>the faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that seems to be
>>>>the only
>>>>thing he liked.
>>>
>>>>So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant
>>>>on a
>>>>machine I already owned?
>>>>To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any
>>>>simpler and more pleasurable than it is now.
>>>
>>>></quote>
>>>
>>>
>> I agree that it's shameless how Linux tries to bribe reporters with free
>> computers. But even with the bribes, the reporters want nothing to do
>> with Linux.
>

> BTW, I don't remember reading in your article that the computer the
> reporter was using was a gift. Did I miss that?

As usual, you did miss it. Ask your big sister to help you read the
article.

On 2009-11-01, the following emerged from the brain of Snit:
> Rick stated in post toqdnfXmO5W7iHPXnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d DeleteThis @supernews.com on
> 11/1/09 4:09 PM:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:08:18 -0500, Ezekiel wrote:
>>
>>> <quote>
>>> Next, Canonical approaches Rory with an offer to try out Ubuntu 9.10 and
>>> send him a Dell Inspiron Mini loaded with Karmic Koala. Rory likes the
>>> faster startup of the Ubuntu box he received. But that seems to be the
>>> only thing he liked.
>>>
>>> So would I actively seek to install Ubuntu or any other Linux variant on
>>> a machine I already owned?
>>> To be frank, no, because it would not make my computing life any simpler
>>> and more pleasurable than it is now.
>>>
>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> http://techie-buzz.com/ubuntu/bbc-breakfast-talk-ubuntu-9-1-karmic-
>> koala.html
>>
>> Wow... you are really desperate...
>>
> The question is a reasonable one: there are user benefits to OS X and user
> benefits to Windows... what user benefits are there to Ubuntu? In the past
> some have been listed; like OS X it does not have a malware problem,
> software installation... um... what else?

Deployment without having to worry about licensing (see my Postfix
thread).
Runs on more hardware than any other OS (Debian runs on 10 different
architectures currently).
Scalability (it can be literally anything).
Cost (it's gratis in most cases).
Configurability (on the same machine I user a poweruser set-up with
awesome, while my wife and kids use the easy to handle point-and-click
environment of Gnome).

These are the first that spring to mind.

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TomB stated in post 20091102014055.765.RemoveThis@usenet.drumscum.be on 11/1/09 5:54
PM:

>> The question is a reasonable one: there are user benefits to OS X and user
>> benefits to Windows... what user benefits are there to Ubuntu? In the past
>> some have been listed; like OS X it does not have a malware problem,
>> software installation... um... what else?
>
> Deployment without having to worry about licensing (see my Postfix
> thread).
> Runs on more hardware than any other OS (Debian runs on 10 different
> architectures currently).
> Scalability (it can be literally anything).
> Cost (it's gratis in most cases).
> Configurability (on the same machine I user a poweruser set-up with
> awesome, while my wife and kids use the easy to handle point-and-click
> environment of Gnome).
>
> These are the first that spring to mind.

Licensing and cost issues are no doubt there... but I was thinking in terms
of end users. Still, for business deployments that is a *huge* issue, so
well worth mentioning. Running on more hardware and stability are not
that big of a deal *for a desktop comparison*. The assumption of any such
comparison is you have hardware to run the OSs. If you have the hardware
though and are trying to decide what OS to put on it, then clearly this is
something to consider.

Configurability is a benefit... if you can show specific examples. I have
pointed out areas where it lacks configurability, such as changing system
wide dialogs or system wide menu hot keys (OS X makes both fairly easy...
some of it even out of the box).

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TomB wrote:

> Runs on more hardware than any other OS (Debian runs on 10 different
> architectures currently).

That's the claim. I'd love to see proof of it.